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Postby Proctopeo » Mon Oct 23, 2017 6:26 am

Sovaal wrote:
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Or ends with a vowel.

When you say it or when you write it, or both?
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Postby Sovaal » Mon Oct 23, 2017 6:28 am

Proctopeo wrote:
Sovaal wrote:Or ends with a vowel.

When you say it or when you write it, or both?

Both.

So Sealand is safe guys, totally not going to invade England.
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Postby Ifreann » Mon Oct 23, 2017 6:29 am

Seangoli wrote:So Myesha Johnson said Trump was being a disrespectful douche during his call to her, and pretty much verified Wilson's account.


Trump, being the brilliant person he is, took to twitter immediately to essentially call her a liar.

I am sure the "support the military!" Crowd will not take kindly to that, right?

When the President attacks the families of dead soldiers, that doesn't mean he doesn't support the military. It's just...em...Obama never called...um...FAKE NEWS!
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Postby The Flutterlands » Mon Oct 23, 2017 6:40 am

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By funding far right movements across Europe and America.

And that is a problem why when they are fringe groups?
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And yet you want the ones responsible to be let off the hook.

Because I see no direct evidence of them being responsible in the first place. Again Russia isn't trying to take my healthcare away, Russia isn't trying to sell U.S landmarks to Oil Drillers and Russia isn't trying to repeal Net Neutrality. Republicans are. They are my enemy, not Russia.
Sernarbia wrote:NOBODY IS TALKNG ABOUT A WAR WITH RUSSIA!

But war seems to be the logical conclusion to all this denomization. How else do you deal with a nation you keep calling "the enemy"?
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Postby Ifreann » Mon Oct 23, 2017 6:52 am

The Flutterlands wrote:
Sernarbia wrote:
By funding far right movements across Europe and America.

And that is a problem why when they are fringe groups?

Didn't you say earlier in the thread that you want people everywhere to enjoy the freedoms guaranteed by the First Amendment to the US Constitution? Unless that was was just empty sentiment then you should have a problem with groups opposed to those rights receiving funding from a nation opposed to those rights.
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And yet you want the ones responsible to be let off the hook.

Because I see no direct evidence of them being responsible in the first place. Again Russia isn't trying to take my healthcare away, Russia isn't trying to sell U.S landmarks to Oil Drillers and Russia isn't trying to repeal Net Neutrality. Republicans are. They are my enemy, not Russia.

This attitude of yours is so bizarre. You desperately want to avoid any conflict with Russia, because loads of people would die if it came to war, but you also desperately want a revolution to overthrow the US government and dismantle democracy, which would also kill loads of people.
Sernarbia wrote:NOBODY IS TALKNG ABOUT A WAR WITH RUSSIA!

But war seems to be the logical conclusion to all this denomization. How else do you deal with a nation you keep calling "the enemy"?

Sanction them, expel their diplomats, expose and counter their propaganda, support other nations they're likely to target, et cetera, et cetera.
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Postby Petrasylvania » Mon Oct 23, 2017 6:57 am

Sovaal wrote:
Proctopeo wrote::think:

Or ends with a vowel.

United States of AmericA...

Oh shit.
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Postby Sovaal » Mon Oct 23, 2017 6:57 am

Petrasylvania wrote:
Sovaal wrote:Or ends with a vowel.

United States of AmericA...

Oh shit.

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Postby The Flutterlands » Mon Oct 23, 2017 6:59 am

Ifreann wrote:
The Flutterlands wrote:And that is a problem why when they are fringe groups?

Didn't you say earlier in the thread that you want people everywhere to enjoy the freedoms guaranteed by the First Amendment to the US Constitution? Unless that was was just empty sentiment then you should have a problem with groups opposed to those rights receiving funding from a nation opposed to those rights.

Well these groups have the right to organize, right? There's not many of them to be a posing threat at the moment.
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Because I see no direct evidence of them being responsible in the first place. Again Russia isn't trying to take my healthcare away, Russia isn't trying to sell U.S landmarks to Oil Drillers and Russia isn't trying to repeal Net Neutrality. Republicans are. They are my enemy, not Russia.

This attitude of yours is so bizarre. You desperately want to avoid any conflict with Russia, because loads of people would die if it came to war, but you also desperately want a revolution to overthrow the US government and dismantle democracy, which would also kill loads of people.

The difference is is that Russia isn't an immediate threat to everything we hold dear, unlike the current Republican Party in Congress, who are trying to destroy everything we hold dear.

Ifreann wrote:
But war seems to be the logical conclusion to all this denomization. How else do you deal with a nation you keep calling "the enemy"?

Sanction them, expel their diplomats, expose and counter their propaganda, support other nations they're likely to target, et cetera, et cetera.

Which could further push us to eventual war especially if done for something there is no evidence for...
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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Mon Oct 23, 2017 7:04 am

Flutterland why are you so hostile to the ideas of vigilance and Håll Gränsen? Are you trying to ensure that the Russian Empire regains its 1815's borders?
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Postby The Flutterlands » Mon Oct 23, 2017 7:06 am

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:Flutterland why are you so hostile to the ideas of vigilance and Håll Gränsen? Are you trying to ensure that the Russian Empire regains its 1815's borders?

What makes you think It's trying or going to without a backlash that could escalate to WWIII from the rest of Europe?
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Postby Vassenor » Mon Oct 23, 2017 7:08 am

The Flutterlands wrote:
Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:Flutterland why are you so hostile to the ideas of vigilance and Håll Gränsen? Are you trying to ensure that the Russian Empire regains its 1815's borders?

What makes you think It's trying or going to without a backlash that could escalate to WWIII from the rest of Europe?


Where was the backlash over Crimea?
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Mon Oct 23, 2017 7:08 am

The Flutterlands wrote:
Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:Flutterland why are you so hostile to the ideas of vigilance and Håll Gränsen? Are you trying to ensure that the Russian Empire regains its 1815's borders?

What makes you think It's trying or going to without a backlash that could escalate to WWIII from the rest of Europe?


Because Russia has already attacked or invaded several of it's fucking neighbors.

Seriously, I think all the Russia stuff is silly but you have to be willfully ignorant to not see that they're fairly hostile towards their neighbors when try stop doing what Moscow says.
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Postby Ifreann » Mon Oct 23, 2017 7:09 am

The Flutterlands wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Didn't you say earlier in the thread that you want people everywhere to enjoy the freedoms guaranteed by the First Amendment to the US Constitution? Unless that was was just empty sentiment then you should have a problem with groups opposed to those rights receiving funding from a nation opposed to those rights.

Well these groups have the right to organize, right? There's not many of them to be a posing threat at the moment.

Until they use their bags of rubles to increase recruitment and advertising and start winning elections.
Ifreann wrote:This attitude of yours is so bizarre. You desperately want to avoid any conflict with Russia, because loads of people would die if it came to war, but you also desperately want a revolution to overthrow the US government and dismantle democracy, which would also kill loads of people.

The difference is is that Russia isn't an immediate threat, unlike the current Republican Party in Congress.

You'll forgive or deny anything Russia does, why not do the same with the Republicans? Avoid a conflict that could see dozens, hundreds, thousands die.
Sanction them, expel their diplomats, expose and counter their propaganda, support other nations they're likely to target, et cetera, et cetera.

Which could further push us to eventual war especially if done for something there is no evidence for...

War with Russia must be avoided at all costs. Civil war in the United States must be pursued at all costs. Incomprehensible.
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Postby Polvatsiya » Mon Oct 23, 2017 7:10 am

Ifreann wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
...I thought Obama founded ISIS.

Trump founds the best terrorist organisations. Believe me.


The Flutterlands wrote: :meh:
Shut up. Russia is not trying to take over America. Period.

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Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:So much maga.

Are you sick of winning yet?


Corrian wrote:So we apparently have Nuclear Bombers on 24-hour alert for the first time since the Cold War.

Trump just can't wait to play with all his best toys.



It's not true because there's no evidence backing up the written excrement i'm witnessing being posted.
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Postby Polvatsiya » Mon Oct 23, 2017 7:11 am

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
The Flutterlands wrote:What makes you think It's trying or going to without a backlash that could escalate to WWIII from the rest of Europe?


Because Russia has already attacked or invaded several of it's fucking neighbors.

Seriously, I think all the Russia stuff is silly but you have to be willfully ignorant to not see that they're fairly hostile towards their neighbors when try stop doing what Moscow says.


True, but which neighbors did they attack?
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Mon Oct 23, 2017 7:13 am

Polvatsiya wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Because Russia has already attacked or invaded several of it's fucking neighbors.

Seriously, I think all the Russia stuff is silly but you have to be willfully ignorant to not see that they're fairly hostile towards their neighbors when try stop doing what Moscow says.


True, but which neighbors did they attack?


Georgia and Ukraine instantly come to mind. Hell, the war in Ukraine is still ongoing ffs.
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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Mon Oct 23, 2017 7:14 am

Polvatsiya wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Because Russia has already attacked or invaded several of it's fucking neighbors.

Seriously, I think all the Russia stuff is silly but you have to be willfully ignorant to not see that they're fairly hostile towards their neighbors when try stop doing what Moscow says.


True, but which neighbors did they attack?

Are you arguing that the entire Ukraine War is waged by "independent free-willed insurgents working for a Rikssprängning of Ukraine"?
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Postby Ifreann » Mon Oct 23, 2017 7:18 am

The Flutterlands wrote:
Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:Flutterland why are you so hostile to the ideas of vigilance and Håll Gränsen? Are you trying to ensure that the Russian Empire regains its 1815's borders?

What makes you think It's trying or going to without a backlash that could escalate to WWIII from the rest of Europe?

Maybe they're counting on people like you refusing to oppose them in even the most token ways.


Polvatsiya wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Trump founds the best terrorist organisations. Believe me.



"It's not true because it upsets me!"



Are you sick of winning yet?



Trump just can't wait to play with all his best toys.



It's not true because there's no evidence backing up the written excrement i'm witnessing being posted.

Flutterlands has made it pretty clear that evidence is irrelevant to him and that no response should be made to anything Russia does short of a nuclear attack.
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Postby Polvatsiya » Mon Oct 23, 2017 7:20 am

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:
Polvatsiya wrote:
True, but which neighbors did they attack?

Are you arguing that the entire Ukraine War is waged by "independent free-willed insurgents working for a Rikssprängning of Ukraine"?


No, i'm arguing that Russian troops were not sent into Ukraine. But rather it was a tight connection of terrorist organizations who are pro-Russian imperialists.
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Postby Petrasylvania » Mon Oct 23, 2017 7:20 am

Ifreann wrote:Flutterlands has made it pretty clear that evidence is irrelevant to him and that no response should be made to anything Russia does short of a nuclear attack.

Or from what I've read of his posts, proof that Russia is somehow directing the Republican Party to repeal the AHA and environmental regulations.
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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Mon Oct 23, 2017 7:21 am

Polvatsiya wrote:
Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:Are you arguing that the entire Ukraine War is waged by "independent free-willed insurgents working for a Rikssprängning of Ukraine"?


No, i'm arguing that Russian troops were not sent into Ukraine. But rather it was a tight connection of terrorist organizations who are pro-Russian imperialists.

If this was 1809 this would be the equivalent of saying "there are no Russian troops in Finland".
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Postby Polvatsiya » Mon Oct 23, 2017 7:22 am

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Polvatsiya wrote:
True, but which neighbors did they attack?


Georgia and Ukraine instantly come to mind. Hell, the war in Ukraine is still ongoing ffs.


Georgia yes,
Ukraine, no.

There is evidence that Russias attack on Georgia was justified though.
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Postby Polvatsiya » Mon Oct 23, 2017 7:23 am

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:
Polvatsiya wrote:
No, i'm arguing that Russian troops were not sent into Ukraine. But rather it was a tight connection of terrorist organizations who are pro-Russian imperialists.

If this was 1809 this would be the equivalent of saying "there are no Russian troops in Finland".

Bullshit, because there was legitimate fighting going on with Russian troops in that period, not now in Ukraine.
Post some proof of Russian military in Ukraine, with official patches and identification.
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Postby Ifreann » Mon Oct 23, 2017 7:26 am

Petrasylvania wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Flutterlands has made it pretty clear that evidence is irrelevant to him and that no response should be made to anything Russia does short of a nuclear attack.

Or from what I've read of his, proof that Russia is somehow directing the Republican Party to repeal the AHA and environmental regulations.

Possibly. That, or repealing the ACA and what have you would suddenly become irrelevant and the real enemy would be...I don't know, the DNC?
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Mon Oct 23, 2017 7:28 am

Polvatsiya wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Georgia and Ukraine instantly come to mind. Hell, the war in Ukraine is still ongoing ffs.


Georgia yes,
Ukraine, no.

There is evidence that Russias attack on Georgia was justified though.


Literally all of the evidence supports the fact that the Russian military is active in Ukraine.
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