What is your thought on marriage?

[Albrenia]

That picture was cringe-inducing. The only decent part of it was the warm fuzzies one gets from seeing a soldier greeting his family. The overall message is garbage though.

[Sovaal]

That picture was cringe-inducing. The only decent part of it was the warm fuzzies one gets from seeing a soldier greeting his family. The overall message is garbage though.

I mean why would I want to grow so old and feeble that I have to rely on others?

[Infected Mushroom]

Just going to leave this here

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THIS IS SUCH PROPAGANDA

[Keshiland]

Just going to leave this here

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THIS IS SUCH PROPAGANDA

Well to be fair anyone is more mature then someone who likes to get drunk all the time.

[Telconi]

THIS IS SUCH PROPAGANDA

Well to be fair anyone is more mature then someone who likes to get drunk all the time.

Can we limit the conversation to your weird unpopula views on marriage? And not bring in your weird unpopular views on mind altering substances?

[Costa Fierro]

When you see a thread about marriage on NSG and you're an out and proud MGTOW.

Marriage is worthless. There's absolutely no reason why any self-respecting man should get married (religious reasons being the only exception).

[Omnonia]

Just going to leave this here

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Implications of a moral duty to continue the family line...?



Quite glad with our family dying out this generation, TYVM!

[Costa Fierro]

It's ok and on average, married men live longer than their single counterparts.

Nope. The self rated health of single or never married men is improving substantially to the point where marriage offers very little differences.

[New haven america]

When you see a thread about marriage on NSG and you're an out and proud MGTOW.

Marriage is worthless. There's absolutely no reason why any self-respecting man should get married (religious reasons being the only exception).

So... what about gay or trans men?

[Costa Fierro]

When you see a thread about marriage on NSG and you're an out and proud MGTOW.

Marriage is worthless. There's absolutely no reason why any self-respecting man should get married (religious reasons being the only exception).

So... what about gay or trans men?

Meh. They can do whatever they want.

[Albrenia]

When you see a thread about marriage on NSG and you're an out and proud MGTOW.

Marriage is worthless. There's absolutely no reason why any self-respecting man should get married (religious reasons being the only exception).

That seems a little harsh. Maybe some men really enjoy being family men and/or being around their spouse. Just because it's not for you (or me, for that matter) doesn't mean you have to be a spineless whelp to want it.

[Costa Fierro]

When you see a thread about marriage on NSG and you're an out and proud MGTOW.

Marriage is worthless. There's absolutely no reason why any self-respecting man should get married (religious reasons being the only exception).

That seems a little harsh. Maybe some men really enjoy being family men and/or being around their spouse. Just because it's not for you (or me, for that matter) doesn't mean you have to be a spineless whelp to want it.

It's not harsh. Using an emotive argument is negating the fact that there are virtually no benefits for men in marriage these days and a lot of risks. You have to take the emotion out of it and as yourself "do I really want to risk losing my house, personal savings, children and material possessions or be trapped in an abusive relationship that I cannot escape from without massive personal loss?" If the answer is yes, by all means get married. If the answer is no, then don't.

[The Greater Ohio Valley]

I'm pretty cynical about marriage, so I don't really have any inclination about getting married. Other people can get married all they want though.

[Trumptonium]

Just going to leave this here

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if the kid is so young and the guy was on duty chances are it's not even his

[Costa Fierro]

PSA to the MRAs on the thread earlier. You probably won't get married, but please don't try and pretend it's a principled decision on your own part.

Yet more shaming. Clearly I've made the right decision.

[Neutraligon]

When you see a thread about marriage on NSG and you're an out and proud MGTOW.

Marriage is worthless. There's absolutely no reason why any self-respecting man should get married (religious reasons being the only exception).

Or because they want to spend their life together with the benefits that marriage provides.

[Costa Fierro]

When you see a thread about marriage on NSG and you're an out and proud MGTOW.

Marriage is worthless. There's absolutely no reason why any self-respecting man should get married (religious reasons being the only exception).

Or because they want to spend their life together with the benefits that marriage provides.

And what benefits for men are there in marriage? None. What are the benefits for women in marriage? Everything. Control of spending, finances and a family courts system designed to ensure they get the most out of the divorce, including but not limited to the lion's share of personal finances, savings and material, half the house and the kids. And that's before we get to the steady stream of income in the form of alimony/child support to subsidize their post-divorce life. Oh, and women don't have to worry about debts or anything because those are the man's worry now.

So what benefits do I get out of marriage that I don't being single? A loss of personal freedom, independence, potential to be in an abusive relationship with no way out that doesn't screw me over, a family court system that screws me over if it goes wrong, my personal life being controlled and no fucking sex. Sounds like a really great future, doesn't it?

[Neutraligon]

Or because they want to spend their life together with the benefits that marriage provides.

And what benefits for men are there in marriage? None. What are the benefits for women in marriage? Everything. Control of spending, finances and a family courts system designed to ensure they get the most out of the divorce, including but not limited to the lion's share of personal finances, savings and material, half the house and the kids. And that's before we get to the steady stream of income in the form of alimony/child support to subsidize their post-divorce life. Oh, and women don't have to worry about debts or anything because those are the man's worry now.

You mean besides being with the person they love? Well if you must talk about the physical I will talk about the physical. My dad was not the bread winner of the family, that would be my mom, so financials would be one thing he gained. Neither controlled the big purchases any more then the other, and for the small things my dad controlled the purchases on electronics and appliances and all that while my mom tended to be the one who purchased the stuff that decorated where we live. That would be because that was where their expertise lay, with my dad being well versed in electronics (my mom was not) and my mom having a very good eye for aesthetics (my dad had no eye at all). My parents never divorced and since they started out with no money there was no issue there. Since there was no divorce things like half the house, and the children and alimony and all that never came up. In the end my dad got a woman who stuck with him even as he was dying of cancer. One who tried her best to get the best treatment (she being a doctor meant she had some basic knowledge), all the while knowing that the form of cancer he had was fatal. She stuck with him for 4 years, even after the disease changed him so far from the man she knew, and their marriage only ended with his death.

So what benefits do I get out of marriage that I don't being single? A loss of personal freedom, independence, potential to be in an abusive relationship with no way out that doesn't screw me over, a family court system that screws me over if it goes wrong, my personal life being controlled and no fucking sex. Sounds like a really great future, doesn't it?

The loss of personal freedom was made up for by the gain of having someone there who is able to back you, who can make up for your own shortcomings.Oh and...one of the things my mom misses most about not having my dad...she misses the intimacy...including the sex. Your view of marriage seems rather limited.

[Ethel mermania]

I like being married. For one thing, it is a lot easier to get a date for Saturday night.

And op, being married is cheaper than being single. Need less bedrooms, cars, make more money, etc. Kids ruin the equation. But even with kids two households supporting a kid is more expensive than one.

[Costa Fierro]

You mean besides being with the person they love?

Love doesn't exist.

The loss of personal freedom was made up for by the gain of having someone there who is able to back you, who can make up for your own shortcomings.

Loss of personal freedom can never be made up, because the person who is supposedly there to "back you" doesn't have your back at all.

Oh and...one of the things my mom misses most about not having my dad...she misses the intimacy...including the sex. Your view of marriage seems rather limited.

It's not limited. It's what happens. It's based in a reality that tens of millions of people face every single day. Produce a compelling argument.

[Ethel mermania]

You mean besides being with the person they love?

Love doesn't exist.

The loss of personal freedom was made up for by the gain of having someone there who is able to back you, who can make up for your own shortcomings.

Loss of personal freedom can never be made up, because the person who is supposedly there to "back you" doesn't have your back at all.

Oh and...one of the things my mom misses most about not having my dad...she misses the intimacy...including the sex. Your view of marriage seems rather limited.

It's not limited. It's what happens. It's based in a reality that tens of millions of people face every single day. Produce a compelling argument.

Love doesn't exist? Sorry to hear that. If you don't have love in your life, it's a Pretty shitty life.

[Costa Fierro]

Love doesn't exist? Sorry to hear that. If you don't have love in your life, it's a Pretty shitty life.

According to you.

[The Eternal Aulus]

No because it's suicide for men.

Aside of that I don't want to settle down with a woman right now, just bang em.

[Dylar]

Love doesn't exist? Sorry to hear that. If you don't have love in your life, it's a Pretty shitty life.

According to you.

Enlighten me, what's it like to live in hate?

[The Eternal Aulus]

According to you.

Enlighten me, what's it like to live in hate?

Absence of love =/= life full of hate. Just, numb. And it feels comfy.