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Holy Tedalonia
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Postby Holy Tedalonia » Wed Sep 27, 2017 4:30 pm

New haven america wrote:
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I hate to wave the inflation flag around, but it's starting to drop to not so good levels.

Um, do you need to be reminded about what happened in 2007-2009?

Obama started his big pay plans, but he didn't have the money so he printed them.
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Postby Salandriagado » Wed Sep 27, 2017 4:31 pm

Holy Tedalonia wrote:
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Then you've been trolling? Good to know.

And I treat people how they act. Make of that what you will.

I haven't been trolling in the slightest.


You literally just admitted that you have been following this discussion, and therefore know where it started, but have been pretending that you don't, presumably in some facile attempt to annoy me. What the fuck else would you call that?
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Anachronous Rex wrote:Good thing most a majority of people aren't so small-minded, and frightened of other's sexuality.

Over 40% (including me), are, so I fixed the post for accuracy.

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Salandriagado wrote:
Notice that the link is to the notes from a university course on probability. You clearly have nothing beyond the most absurdly simplistic understanding of the subject.
By choosing 1, you no longer have 0 probability of choosing 1. End of subject.

(read up the quote stack)

Deal. £3000 do?[/quote]

Of course.[/quote]

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Postby The East Marches II » Wed Sep 27, 2017 4:33 pm

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Nah now you are backtracking. Thanks for playing! I'm glad you've corrected your opinion from previously.


Yeah, no, that's not what happened in the slightest. You're just doing your usual inane blathering about things you don't understand and trying to score points by intentionally (or accidentally, malice and stupidity and all that) misunderstanding people's posts.


Of course, I'm the one who believes in balanced budgets in good times. How "inane". Whatever you gotta do to cover up getting called on being wrong.
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Postby Salandriagado » Wed Sep 27, 2017 4:35 pm

The East Marches II wrote:
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Yeah, no, that's not what happened in the slightest. You're just doing your usual inane blathering about things you don't understand and trying to score points by intentionally (or accidentally, malice and stupidity and all that) misunderstanding people's posts.


Of course, I'm the one who believes in balanced budgets in good times. How "insane". Whatever you gotta do to cover up getting called on being wrong.


Erm, no. You're the one that refuses to read.
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Anachronous Rex wrote:Good thing most a majority of people aren't so small-minded, and frightened of other's sexuality.

Over 40% (including me), are, so I fixed the post for accuracy.

Vilatania wrote:
Salandriagado wrote:
Notice that the link is to the notes from a university course on probability. You clearly have nothing beyond the most absurdly simplistic understanding of the subject.
By choosing 1, you no longer have 0 probability of choosing 1. End of subject.

(read up the quote stack)

Deal. £3000 do?[/quote]

Of course.[/quote]

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Postby New haven america » Wed Sep 27, 2017 4:35 pm

Holy Tedalonia wrote:
New haven america wrote:Um, do you need to be reminded about what happened in 2007-2009?

Obama started his big pay plans, but he didn't have the money so he printed them.

OR, this little thing call "The Great Recession" happened. It's generally accepted that it started under Bush and was due to years of terrible economic practices, like: Failures in financial regulation, reckless financial firms, Wall Street acting like assholes with excessive borrowing, etc...
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Postby The of Japan » Wed Sep 27, 2017 4:37 pm

New haven america wrote:
Holy Tedalonia wrote:Obama started his big pay plans, but he didn't have the money so he printed them.

OR, this little thing call "The Great Recession" happened. It's generally accepted that it started under Bush and was due to years of terrible economic practices, like: Failures in financial regulation, reckless financial firms, Wall Street acting like assholes with excessive borrowing, etc...

OR it was because the banks knew that papa govt would bail them out if they did stupid shit.
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Postby New haven america » Wed Sep 27, 2017 4:39 pm

The of Japan wrote:
New haven america wrote:OR, this little thing call "The Great Recession" happened. It's generally accepted that it started under Bush and was due to years of terrible economic practices, like: Failures in financial regulation, reckless financial firms, Wall Street acting like assholes with excessive borrowing, etc...

OR it was because the banks knew that papa govt would bail them out if they did stupid shit.

Congratulations, literally nothing in my post has been changed due to that idea, in fact, it actually plays into the first point in that list.

Would you like to try another?
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Postby Senkaku » Wed Sep 27, 2017 4:40 pm

The of Japan wrote:
New haven america wrote:OR, this little thing call "The Great Recession" happened. It's generally accepted that it started under Bush and was due to years of terrible economic practices, like: Failures in financial regulation, reckless financial firms, Wall Street acting like assholes with excessive borrowing, etc...

OR it was because the banks knew that papa govt would bail them out if they did stupid shit.

...and then were allowed to, as you say, "do stupid shit", instead of being regulated.

You're presenting one of the dumber false dichotomies I've seen on NSG lol
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Postby Holy Tedalonia » Wed Sep 27, 2017 4:40 pm

The of Japan wrote:
New haven america wrote:OR, this little thing call "The Great Recession" happened. It's generally accepted that it started under Bush and was due to years of terrible economic practices, like: Failures in financial regulation, reckless financial firms, Wall Street acting like assholes with excessive borrowing, etc...

OR it was because the banks knew that papa govt would bail them out if they did stupid shit.

That actually saved Citibank
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Tarsonis wrote:
Bnei Noah wrote:
“Yeah, fuck old people” is a strange thing to hear from conservatives.


The implication was that Antifa operatives were snatching up old folks from retirement homes and wheeling them out to pad numbers. HT has trouble accepting that Americans object to far right authoritarianism
I M P E R I A LR E P U B L I C

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Postby The of Japan » Wed Sep 27, 2017 4:40 pm

New haven america wrote:
The of Japan wrote:OR it was because the banks knew that papa govt would bail them out if they did stupid shit.

Congratulations, literally nothing in my post has been changed due to that idea.

Would you like to try another?

I was saying lack of regulation wasn't the problem, it was the general practice of bailing out banks that led to banks taking more risks, ergo housing bubble, ergo great recession. What did bush do, other than not reign in the banks anyways?
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Postby Dylar » Wed Sep 27, 2017 4:40 pm

Holy Tedalonia wrote:
Salandriagado wrote:
Neither of which is actually bad, given that we were at unsustainably low levels of inflation, and the US deficit is irrelevant.

Image
I hate to wave the inflation flag around, but it's starting to drop to not so good levels.

Wait...which direction is bad? Up or down? I need labels on these axes dammit!!!
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Holy Tedalonia
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Postby Holy Tedalonia » Wed Sep 27, 2017 4:41 pm

Salandriagado wrote:
Holy Tedalonia wrote:I haven't been trolling in the slightest.


You literally just admitted that you have been following this discussion, and therefore know where it started, but have been pretending that you don't, presumably in some facile attempt to annoy me. What the fuck else would you call that?

All I told you to do was to clarify, because people were misunderstanding you. I guess you misunderstood me.
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Tarsonis wrote:
Bnei Noah wrote:
“Yeah, fuck old people” is a strange thing to hear from conservatives.


The implication was that Antifa operatives were snatching up old folks from retirement homes and wheeling them out to pad numbers. HT has trouble accepting that Americans object to far right authoritarianism
I M P E R I A LR E P U B L I C

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Postby New haven america » Wed Sep 27, 2017 4:42 pm

The of Japan wrote:
New haven america wrote:Congratulations, literally nothing in my post has been changed due to that idea.

Would you like to try another?

I was saying lack of regulation wasn't the problem, it was the general practice of bailing out banks that led to banks taking more risks, ergo housing bubble, ergo great recession. What did bush do, other than not reign in the banks anyways?

That's considered failure of regulation.
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Postby Holy Tedalonia » Wed Sep 27, 2017 4:42 pm

Dylar wrote:
Holy Tedalonia wrote:Image
I hate to wave the inflation flag around, but it's starting to drop to not so good levels.

Wait...which direction is bad? Up or down? I need labels on these axes dammit!!!

Typically center is best. This is where you say, "economies a bitch".
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Tarsonis wrote:
Bnei Noah wrote:
“Yeah, fuck old people” is a strange thing to hear from conservatives.


The implication was that Antifa operatives were snatching up old folks from retirement homes and wheeling them out to pad numbers. HT has trouble accepting that Americans object to far right authoritarianism
I M P E R I A LR E P U B L I C

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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Wed Sep 27, 2017 4:42 pm

Salandriagado wrote:
The East Marches II wrote:
Nah now you are backtracking. Thanks for playing! I'm glad you've corrected your opinion from previously.


Yeah, no, that's not what happened in the slightest. You're just doing your usual inane blathering about things you don't understand and trying to score points by intentionally (or accidentally, malice and stupidity and all that) misunderstanding people's posts.


Says the person who literally suggested the deficit was irrelevant.
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Postby The of Japan » Wed Sep 27, 2017 4:42 pm

Senkaku wrote:
The of Japan wrote:OR it was because the banks knew that papa govt would bail them out if they did stupid shit.

...and then were allowed to, as you say, "do stupid shit", instead of being regulated.

You're presenting one of the dumber false dichotomies I've seen on NSG lol

The great recession actually could have been at least temporarily prevented by bailing out lehman brothers, but the root would still be faulty.
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Postby Holy Tedalonia » Wed Sep 27, 2017 4:43 pm

New haven america wrote:
Holy Tedalonia wrote:Obama started his big pay plans, but he didn't have the money so he printed them.

OR, this little thing call "The Great Recession" happened. It's generally accepted that it started under Bush and was due to years of terrible economic practices, like: Failures in financial regulation, reckless financial firms, Wall Street acting like assholes with excessive borrowing, etc...

The crash course mentions that in the video actually for the obamanation.
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Tarsonis wrote:
Bnei Noah wrote:
“Yeah, fuck old people” is a strange thing to hear from conservatives.


The implication was that Antifa operatives were snatching up old folks from retirement homes and wheeling them out to pad numbers. HT has trouble accepting that Americans object to far right authoritarianism
I M P E R I A LR E P U B L I C

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Postby Salandriagado » Wed Sep 27, 2017 4:46 pm

Dylar wrote:
Holy Tedalonia wrote:Image
I hate to wave the inflation flag around, but it's starting to drop to not so good levels.

Wait...which direction is bad? Up or down? I need labels on these axes dammit!!!


Somewhere around 2% is good. Anything below 0 is really bad. Anything a long way above 2% is bad, getting progressively worse the further it goes.
Cosara wrote:
Anachronous Rex wrote:Good thing most a majority of people aren't so small-minded, and frightened of other's sexuality.

Over 40% (including me), are, so I fixed the post for accuracy.

Vilatania wrote:
Salandriagado wrote:
Notice that the link is to the notes from a university course on probability. You clearly have nothing beyond the most absurdly simplistic understanding of the subject.
By choosing 1, you no longer have 0 probability of choosing 1. End of subject.

(read up the quote stack)

Deal. £3000 do?[/quote]

Of course.[/quote]

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Postby Salandriagado » Wed Sep 27, 2017 4:47 pm

Soldati Senza Confini wrote:
Salandriagado wrote:
Yeah, no, that's not what happened in the slightest. You're just doing your usual inane blathering about things you don't understand and trying to score points by intentionally (or accidentally, malice and stupidity and all that) misunderstanding people's posts.


Says the person who literally suggested the deficit was irrelevant.


No I didn't. I said that the increase in the deficit due to Obama's policies from 2008 to 2016 is irrelevant compared to the benefits provided by said spending. Its almost like posts have context.
Cosara wrote:
Anachronous Rex wrote:Good thing most a majority of people aren't so small-minded, and frightened of other's sexuality.

Over 40% (including me), are, so I fixed the post for accuracy.

Vilatania wrote:
Salandriagado wrote:
Notice that the link is to the notes from a university course on probability. You clearly have nothing beyond the most absurdly simplistic understanding of the subject.
By choosing 1, you no longer have 0 probability of choosing 1. End of subject.

(read up the quote stack)

Deal. £3000 do?[/quote]

Of course.[/quote]

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Postby Holy Tedalonia » Wed Sep 27, 2017 4:47 pm

Salandriagado wrote:
Dylar wrote:Wait...which direction is bad? Up or down? I need labels on these axes dammit!!!


Somewhere around 2% is good. Anything below 0 is really bad. Anything a long way above 2% is bad, getting progressively worse the further it goes.

It drops more often then not even during the obama era it dipped a bit as it was recovering.
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Tarsonis wrote:
Bnei Noah wrote:
“Yeah, fuck old people” is a strange thing to hear from conservatives.


The implication was that Antifa operatives were snatching up old folks from retirement homes and wheeling them out to pad numbers. HT has trouble accepting that Americans object to far right authoritarianism
I M P E R I A LR E P U B L I C

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Postby Salandriagado » Wed Sep 27, 2017 4:48 pm

Holy Tedalonia wrote:
Salandriagado wrote:
Somewhere around 2% is good. Anything below 0 is really bad. Anything a long way above 2% is bad, getting progressively worse the further it goes.

It drops more often then not even during the obama era it dipped a bit as it was recovering.


Are we making completely irrelevant statements now?
Cosara wrote:
Anachronous Rex wrote:Good thing most a majority of people aren't so small-minded, and frightened of other's sexuality.

Over 40% (including me), are, so I fixed the post for accuracy.

Vilatania wrote:
Salandriagado wrote:
Notice that the link is to the notes from a university course on probability. You clearly have nothing beyond the most absurdly simplistic understanding of the subject.
By choosing 1, you no longer have 0 probability of choosing 1. End of subject.

(read up the quote stack)

Deal. £3000 do?[/quote]

Of course.[/quote]

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Postby New haven america » Wed Sep 27, 2017 4:48 pm

Salandriagado wrote:
Holy Tedalonia wrote:It drops more often then not even during the obama era it dipped a bit as it was recovering.


Are we making completely irrelevant statements now?

They're very good at that.
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Postby Holy Tedalonia » Wed Sep 27, 2017 4:49 pm

Salandriagado wrote:
Holy Tedalonia wrote:It drops more often then not even during the obama era it dipped a bit as it was recovering.


Are we making completely irrelevant statements now?

No, unless you're talking bout yourself :p
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Tarsonis wrote:
Bnei Noah wrote:
“Yeah, fuck old people” is a strange thing to hear from conservatives.


The implication was that Antifa operatives were snatching up old folks from retirement homes and wheeling them out to pad numbers. HT has trouble accepting that Americans object to far right authoritarianism
I M P E R I A LR E P U B L I C

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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Wed Sep 27, 2017 4:51 pm

Salandriagado wrote:
Soldati Senza Confini wrote:
Says the person who literally suggested the deficit was irrelevant.


No I didn't. I said that the increase in the deficit due to Obama's policies from 2008 to 2016 is irrelevant compared to the benefits provided by said spending. Its almost like posts have context.


I responded to a post. That you fail to communicate properly and go in circles is not, personally, my problem.
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