ISIS member, German girl of 16, faces death penalty in Iraq.

[Genivaria]

With Germany's tiny coastline I'd say that's a lesser concern.

>Not trying a modern day version of the battleship race

Pls, your flag is a WW1 alternate anime, you should know this.

Fun fact, when I play as Germany in HOI4 I just spam Tac Bombers and Heavy Fighters to sink all European opposition.
Planes are easier to replace and YOU CAN'T BEAT GERMAN AIR POWER BITCH!

Also Germany should've just annexed Denmark long ago.

[Bakery Hill]

>Not trying a modern day version of the battleship race

Pls, your flag is a WW1 alternate anime, you should know this.

Fun fact, when I play as Germany in HOI4 I just spam Tac Bombers and Heavy Fighters to sink all European opposition.
Planes are easier to replace and YOU CAN'T BEAT GERMAN AIR POWER BITCH!

Also Germany should've just annexed Denmark long ago.

RAF disagrees.

[Genivaria]

Fun fact, when I play as Germany in HOI4 I just spam Tac Bombers and Heavy Fighters to sink all European opposition.
Planes are easier to replace and YOU CAN'T BEAT GERMAN AIR POWER BITCH!

Also Germany should've just annexed Denmark long ago.

RAF disagrees.

RAF doesn't fucking exist in my games.

[The East Marches II]

>Not trying a modern day version of the battleship race

Pls, your flag is a WW1 alternate anime, you should know this.

Fun fact, when I play as Germany in HOI4 I just spam Tac Bombers and Heavy Fighters to sink all European opposition.
Planes are easier to replace and YOU CAN'T BEAT GERMAN AIR POWER BITCH!

Also Germany should've just annexed Denmark long ago.

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[Genivaria]

Fun fact, when I play as Germany in HOI4 I just spam Tac Bombers and Heavy Fighters to sink all European opposition.
Planes are easier to replace and YOU CAN'T BEAT GERMAN AIR POWER BITCH!

Also Germany should've just annexed Denmark long ago.

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B-But I want their factories for more tanks and bombers!

[Borovan4]

She should get the death penalty. A person at 16 is irrational at times but joining a fundamentalist group? You're really asking for trouble. Sooner or later when she gets out of prison she'll just get back to ISIS.

[Romanum Dominium]

Well, when you play fucked up games, you win fucked up prizes. That said, I really don't like the idea of executing teenagers or children and if I were running the German government, I would be lobbying for Iraq to promise not to give her the death penalty. I wouldn't be lobbying very hard, because, again, see above about games and prizes, but I think the attempt ought to be made.

[Gauthier]

Seems like Germany is going to be pushed by fear of precedent. If they don't put up a fight for this girl then they pretty much forfeit the right to plea for the release of future citizens, even if they've fucked up significantly less than this one.

[Cedoria]

She should be extradited to Germany and executed for treason.

Germany is but a sad shadow of its former greatness since 1945. It is full of weakness and fragility and as such- they can't get her back, because that'd mean she is spared. The only satisfactory outcome is for Iraq to execute this girl. Preferably by firing squad.

1945? The same year when not a building over two storeys high left standing from one end of the country to the other was the norm?

Yeah, I can see how much worse it is now.

Germany will probably have issues with that. The last time they had the death penalty, they went a bit over-board.....

Except now they're overwhelmingly left-wing and extremely superstitious of any form of nationalism.

You say that like it's a bad thing even if it were true...

[BonziNation]

Germany is but a sad shadow of its former greatness since 1945. It is full of weakness and fragility and as such- they can't get her back, because that'd mean she is spared. The only satisfactory outcome is for Iraq to execute this girl. Preferably by firing squad.

1945? The same year when not a building over two storeys high left standing from one end of the country to the other was the norm?

Yeah, I can see how much worse it is now.

Except now they're overwhelmingly left-wing and extremely superstitious of any form of nationalism.

You say that like it's a bad thing even if it were true...

...because it is.

[Risottia]

Good! All Daesh fighters should face justice

People are considered to be minors in Iraq and in Germany and by the UN until they come of age at 18. "Minor" implies "is at least partly excused from her responsibilities because she's too young to know better".

What 15/16 year old joins ISIS because they're bored? She joined to establish a caliphate. She joined to kill innocents. She KNEW what she was doing. Stop assuming all minors are unable to comprehend what their actions actually mean.

Not only minors must be assumed to be at least partly unable to comprehend the consequences of their actions (that's why they are placed under legal custodianship and don't have political rights), they must also be assumed to be ignorant (that's why there's a thing such as mandatory schooling).
Got a problem with it? Why? Do you want minors to be treated like adults? Seriously? Why?

[Hirota]

There seems to be an interesting story in here that I'm curious about.

How does a 15 year old travel to iraq on her own?

It's relatively common, and I assume there is some support available if buying the ticket is an issue for them. The new statesman had an article about Jihadi Brides - the average age for women is 15.

[Soviet-mongol]

She joined. She knew the consequences, she knew what ISIS was doing. She had the ability to reason and she reasoned wrong.

She should be left in Iraq

This is a wrong reasoning in my opinion. Maybe she just like every teenager wanted to try see adventures. She should be given a chance. Iraq is also a country that has a very dynamic culture than the European one. To make it simple, she was only a deluded minor.

[The Empire of Pretantia]

She joined. She knew the consequences, she knew what ISIS was doing. She had the ability to reason and she reasoned wrong.

She should be left in Iraq

This is a wrong reasoning in my opinion. Maybe she just like every teenager wanted to try see adventures. She should be given a chance. Iraq is also a country that has a very dynamic culture than the boring European one.

She joined fucking ISIS.

[Soviet-mongol]

She joined fucking ISIS.

Well, yes. That is a point. But maybe she was deluded just like every girl in her age. Who knows what was going in her head?

[The Empire of Pretantia]

She joined fucking ISIS.

Well, yes. That is a point. But maybe she was deluded just like every girl in her age. Who knows what was going in her head?

Oh no shit she was deluded, but not like every girl her age.

[Albrenia]

It's kind of hard to pass off betraying your country, joining a terrorist network, leaving your country and murdering people as a simple 'teenage mistake'.

[Ifreann]

It is nobody elses business but the Iraqi's as to what happens to her.

It's the business of the German government, as she is a German citizen.

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Well, when you play fucked up games, you win fucked up prizes. That said, I really don't like the idea of executing teenagers or children and if I were running the German government, I would be lobbying for Iraq to promise not to give her the death penalty. I wouldn't be lobbying very hard, because, again, see above about games and prizes, but I think the attempt ought to be made.

Iraq isn't going to execute her because they're party to treaties that forbid executing children.

[BonziNation]

It's kind of hard to pass off betraying your country, joining a terrorist network, leaving your country and murdering people as a simple 'teenage mistake'.

[Segral]

While I do believe she knew what she was getting into, and that she had the capacity to reason, I don't actually believe in death penalty, and I don't think anybody deserves death penalty, so I would say just throw her in jail for life, if it's possible.

[Eisen Wolf Reich]

In america we used to execute, and now still jail, multi murders, even if they are under the age of 18. I see no reason why Iraq shouldn't do the same

[Kramania]

And apparently she can be executed in Iraq.

No, she can't. Iraq has signed a treaty which forbids the death penalty for minors. Treatises rank above ordinary law.

From OP:

Iraq is a signatory to international treaties forbidding the use of the death penalty on those under 18

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If you have different information, please provide link.

And evidently Iraq has chosen to disregard that treaty. Now what?

[The Eternal Aulus]

She violated local law and, normally, she has to be serve her punishment there. I'm not in favor of the death penalty, but that doesn't mean I can not understand why the Iraqis want to give her that sentence. She's a German citizen too, so I reckon that she could be better sit her punishment in Germany (ie, Iraqi judge judges her to jail for 20 years and she'll be in German jail for 20 years). Aside of that - heavy psychological counseling, normal contact with her parents.

[Donut section]

Germany should evaluate her maturity.

Joining ISIS is a bit further afield than the usual, thinks socialism is ok, teenage stupidity. If she was mature enough then they should let Iraq put her on trial and execute her. If not then she should be tried in Iraq but face a maximum of a custodial sentence in Germany.

[Ifreann]

In america we used to execute, and now still jail, multi murders, even if they are under the age of 18. I see no reason why Iraq shouldn't do the same

Hopefully Iraq can hold itself to a higher standard than "In america we used to...".

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No, she can't. Iraq has signed a treaty which forbids the death penalty for minors. Treatises rank above ordinary law.

From OP:
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If you have different information, please provide link.

And evidently Iraq has chosen to disregard that treaty. Now what?

They haven't disregarded anything.