Trump MAGAthread IX: Korea, The Dreamers and Trump

[Steffan]

Honestly, Democrats are as bad as Republicans were with the whole Trump thing. Republicans wouldn't shut up about Obama and every little thing he did or did not do, and Democrats are doing the EXACT same thing with Trump. Like that whole thing on Melania's shoes, for example. That was ridiculous. I know Trump and his family are ridiculous and we probably wouldn't act like this with other Republicans as much, but it is still sad to see, and rather hypocritical after all the complaints related to Obama in the past. Even I am getting real tired of all the stupid jokes, and it really has just become apparent Democrats can criticize every little thing Trump does as worse as the Republican media had done for the last 8 years to Obama.

Are you kidding me? The things that Republicans whined about was either trivial nonsense or made up conspiracies. Trump? No one can make up the shit he does. Sorry; different ball game.

[Gauthier]

You stated "millions of Democrats" complaining about the shoes is the same as the DNC proper throwing a fit. If that's the case then random right wing Tweets should be treated as official RNC or FOXNews statements.

Well, I didn't...

Feel free to beat up your strawmen, when and if you actually want to engage in reasonable discourse I'll be here.

Strawman. Suuure.

But where does it say Democrats proper were butthurt about Melania's shoes? Unless random Tweeters are DNC officials.

So the millions of registered party members aren't 'proper' democrats?

"No true Scotsman" much?

[Zanera]

Is he going to reiterate what he's said on Charlottesville like he reiterates his inauguration crowd size?

That was just silly. This? This is unbelievably moronic.

I can see what Blakk is saying. Though, if it is more food for what Trump deems to be his supporters after his DACA deal, then he must think Neo-Nazi supporters helps his boat float. If Trump thinks he needs Neo-Nazi support then ooookay then Mr. President.

[Valrifell]

So the views of AOL.COM EDITORS are somehow representative of all Democrats?

They didn't mean it like that but i hardly doubt AOL is by itself relevant in media.

In fact, AOL is so irrelevant to the mainstream media climate that I forgot it still existed.

[Steffan]

That was just silly. This? This is unbelievably moronic.

I can see what Blakk is saying. Though, if it is more food for what Trump deems to be his supporters after his DACA deal, then he must think Neo-Nazi supporters helps his boat float. If Trump thinks he needs Neo-Nazi support then ooookay then Mr. President.

Although, If he does think that, maybe he's close to just quitting

[Uiiop]

Honestly, Democrats are as bad as Republicans were with the whole Trump thing. Republicans wouldn't shut up about Obama and every little thing he did or did not do, and Democrats are doing the EXACT same thing with Trump. Like that whole thing on Melania's shoes, for example. That was ridiculous. I know Trump and his family are ridiculous and we probably wouldn't act like this with other Republicans as much, but it is still sad to see, and rather hypocritical after all the complaints related to Obama in the past. Even I am getting real tired of all the stupid jokes, and it really has just become apparent Democrats can criticize every little thing Trump does as worse as the Republican media had done for the last 8 years to Obama.

Are you kidding me? The things that Republicans whined about was either trivial nonsense or made up conspiracies. Trump? No one can make up the shit he does. Sorry; different ball game.

They aren't actually imply that tho.
Doesn't make them right of course. Proof that both groups do x is not proof they both equally bad in that regrad. or that the people who do x in one groups has as strong of a voice for that matter.

I mean since when do AOL represent anything after the Early internet?

[Telconi]

Well, I didn't...

Feel free to beat up your strawmen, when and if you actually want to engage in reasonable discourse I'll be here.

Strawman. Suuure.

So the millions of registered party members aren't 'proper' democrats?

"No true Scotsman" much?

Perhaps I need to break it down for you...

"Registered Democrats are democrats" True or false?

"At least one of these people critiqued the First Lady's choice of shoes." True or false?

"Critiquing the shoes of the FLOTUS is a dumb act, on par with critiquing the President's choice of mustard." True or False?

[Steffan]

Are you kidding me? The things that Republicans whined about was either trivial nonsense or made up conspiracies. Trump? No one can make up the shit he does. Sorry; different ball game.

They aren't actually imply that tho.
Doesn't make them right of course. Proof that both groups do x is not proof they both equally bad in that regrad. or that the people who do x in one groups has as strong of a voice for that matter.

I mean since when do AOL represent anything after the Early internet?

Both Democrats and Republicans have latched on to dumb crap like this. But what I meant is that Democrats are fully within their rights to belittle Trump because...just look at the mess he's made.
The Republican's complaints and "outrage" at Obama was nonsense which didn't even stick: 2 terms and 12th best president

[Gauthier]

Strawman. Suuure.

Perhaps I need to break it down for you...

"Registered Democrats are democrats" True or false?

"At least one of these people critiqued the First Lady's choice of shoes." True or false?

"Critiquing the shoes of the FLOTUS is a dumb act, on par with critiquing the President's choice of mustard." True or False?

I was referring to Democrat politicians and DNC officials but since you want to play with Sophistry, how would you identify random Tweets as being made by registered Democrats?

[Clintonburge]

I remember when some Republicans were saying Obama was not born in America, yea that's how low those guys went.

[New haven america]

I remember when some Republicans were saying Obama was not born in America, yea that's how low those guys went.

*cough*

[Gauthier]

I remember when some Republicans were saying Obama was not born in America, yea that's how low those guys went.

And now they're stuck with a manbaby they probably wish wasn't born in the U.S.

[Clintonburge]

I remember when some Republicans were saying Obama was not born in America, yea that's how low those guys went.

*cough*

Sadly he wasn't the only one...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barack_Ob ... y_theories

[Steffan]

I remember when some Republicans were saying Obama was not born in America, yea that's how low those guys went.

They had no real controversies to latch on to, so they had to make shit up. I think Trump supporters and Republicans are upset that Trump is just too easy for us

[Telconi]

Perhaps I need to break it down for you...

"Registered Democrats are democrats" True or false?

"At least one of these people critiqued the First Lady's choice of shoes." True or false?

"Critiquing the shoes of the FLOTUS is a dumb act, on par with critiquing the President's choice of mustard." True or False?

I was referring to Democrat politicians and DNC officials but since you want to play with Sophistry, how would you identify random Tweets as being made by registered Democrats?

Yes, but "Democrat politicians and DNC officials" wasn't the original claim, leave the goalposts be.

And I never mentioned anything about random tweets, I asked three very straightforward true or false questions, which seemingly still elude you.

[Telconi]

I remember when some Republicans were saying Obama was not born in America, yea that's how low those guys went.

They had no real controversies to latch on to, so they had to make shit up. I think Trump supporters and Republicans are upset that Trump is just too easy for us

ACORN, Fast and Furious, Zimmerman trial comments, ACA, Iran deal, Middle East military involvement.

Nothing controversial here guys...

[The of Japan]

They had no real controversies to latch on to, so they had to make shit up. I think Trump supporters and Republicans are upset that Trump is just too easy for us

ACORN, Fast and Furious, Zimmerman trial comments, ACA, Iran deal, Middle East military involvement.

Nothing controversial here guys...

fast and furious was shitty attempt to blame straw gun sales on gun rights which backfired edit: and caused many Mexicans to die from said sales.

[Gauthier]

I was referring to Democrat politicians and DNC officials but since you want to play with Sophistry, how would you identify random Tweets as being made by registered Democrats?

Yes, but "Democrat politicians and DNC officials" wasn't the original claim, leave the goalposts be.

And I never mentioned anything about random tweets, I asked three very straightforward true or false questions, which seemingly still elude you.

Not being legalistically explicit and precise is not moving goalposts. Excuse me if I don't maintain a lawyer's vocabulary unlike yourself. I could care less what Melania wears, but my objection was to implication that social media outrage represented official Democratic Party stance.

[Clintonburge]

They had no real controversies to latch on to, so they had to make shit up. I think Trump supporters and Republicans are upset that Trump is just too easy for us

ACORN, Fast and Furious, Zimmerman trial comments, ACA, Iran deal, Middle East military involvement.

Nothing controversial here guys...

The US has been involved in the Middle East long before Obama.

[Gauthier]

ACORN, Fast and Furious, Zimmerman trial comments, ACA, Iran deal, Middle East military involvement.

Nothing controversial here guys...

fast and furious was shitty attempt to blame straw gun sales on gun rights which backfired edit: and caused many Mexicans to die from said sales.

http://fortune.com/2012/06/27/the-truth ... s-scandal/

[Telconi]

Yes, but "Democrat politicians and DNC officials" wasn't the original claim, leave the goalposts be.

And I never mentioned anything about random tweets, I asked three very straightforward true or false questions, which seemingly still elude you.

Not being legalistically explicit and precise is not moving goalposts. Excuse me if I don't maintain a lawyer's vocabulary unlike yourself. I could care less what Melania wears, but my objection was to implication that social media outrage represented official Democratic Party stance.

I saw Noone imply such a thing. It was simply stated that Democrats larch on to and create nonsensical controversy as well. Nobody ever accused "Melania's choice in shoes sucks" of being official party policy.

[Gauthier]

Not being legalistically explicit and precise is not moving goalposts. Excuse me if I don't maintain a lawyer's vocabulary unlike yourself. I could care less what Melania wears, but my objection was to implication that social media outrage represented official Democratic Party stance.

I saw Noone imply such a thing. It was simply stated that Democrats larch on to and create nonsensical controversy as well. Nobody ever accused "Melania's choice in shoes sucks" of being official party policy.

Of course they are. Still not my point, but I'm not terribly surprised at the ones missing it.

And no. I'm mainly referring to the media and such here, or just Democrats as a whole. Not congresspeople.

And you provide no evidence to substantiate your broad generalizations? Fantastic!

This bullshit for example

[The of Japan]

fast and furious was shitty attempt to blame straw gun sales on gun rights which backfired edit: and caused many Mexicans to die from said sales.

http://fortune.com/2012/06/27/the-truth ... s-scandal/

interesting read, but no sources or anything on the article, and I don't know if fortune magazine is even trustworthy. Is there another source. edit: references not source on first use of source

[Steffan]

Trump dismisses climate change question by contradicting himself on hurricanes

http://www.cnn.com/2017/09/14/politics/ ... index.html

No joke, does this guy have Alzheimer's?

[The of Japan]

Trump dismisses climate change question by contradicting himself on hurricanes

http://www.cnn.com/2017/09/14/politics/ ... index.html

No joke, does this guy have Alzheimer's?

no, he is "just" a bumbling idiot