Trump MAGAthread IX: Korea, The Dreamers and Trump

[Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States]

Some Examples of Trump attacking Hispanics:

1) Trump calling Mexican immigrants criminals, drug-smugglers, rapists. (Assumed some are good)

2) Trump claiming a Judge with Mexican heritage could not adjudicate him fairly

3) Trump referring to undocumented as "bad hombres" during a presidential debate

4) Trump pardoning of Joe Arpaio, who racially profiled Hispanics/Latinos, violating civil rights

5) Trump ending of DACA, which largely benefited Hispanic youth.

1. Only within the context of illegal immigrants.
2. Meh.
3. Seems accurate.
4. Meh.
5. DACA was never meant to be a permanent solution to the illegal immigrant youth problem. Besides, we need congress to settle the issue rather than the president.

5. Why?

[Clintonburge]

Some Examples of Trump attacking Hispanics:

1) Trump calling Mexican immigrants criminals, drug-smugglers, rapists. (Assumed some are good)

2) Trump claiming a Judge with Mexican heritage could not adjudicate him fairly

3) Trump referring to undocumented as "bad hombres" during a presidential debate

4) Trump pardoning of Joe Arpaio, who racially profiled Hispanics/Latinos, violating civil rights

5) Trump ending of DACA, which largely benefited Hispanic youth.

1. Only within the context of illegal immigrants.
2. Meh.
3. Seems accurate.
4. Meh.
5. DACA was never meant to be a permanent solution to the illegal immigrant youth problem. Besides, we need congress to settle the issue rather than the president.

"When Mexico sends its people, they're not sending their best. ... They're sending people that have lots of problems, and they're bringing those problems with us. They're bringing drugs. They're bringing crime. They're rapists. And some, I assume, are good people."

He specifically targets Mexican immigrants, not mentioning "illegal immigrants" at all. Pure bigotry.

Also for #5, ironically Jeff Sessions who was in Congress voted against a DACA legislation, which eventually led to Obama making an EO decision. Now, he wants Congress to decide...

[Northern Davincia]

1. Only within the context of illegal immigrants.
2. Meh.
3. Seems accurate.
4. Meh.
5. DACA was never meant to be a permanent solution to the illegal immigrant youth problem. Besides, we need congress to settle the issue rather than the president.

5. Why?

DACA was Obama's attempt at sidestepping congress. I am highly skeptical of executive power, therefore I wish to see the legislature end the dispute once and for all.

1. Only within the context of illegal immigrants.
2. Meh.
3. Seems accurate.
4. Meh.
5. DACA was never meant to be a permanent solution to the illegal immigrant youth problem. Besides, we need congress to settle the issue rather than the president.

"When Mexico sends its people, they're not sending their best. ... They're sending people that have lots of problems, and they're bringing those problems with us. They're bringing drugs. They're bringing crime. They're rapists. And some, I assume, are good people."

He specifically targets Mexican immigrants, not mentioning "illegal immigrants" at all. Pure bigotry.

Also for #5, ironically Jeff Sessions who was in Congress voted against a DACA legislation, which eventually led to Obama making an EO decision. Now, he wants Congress to decide...

You do realize that Trump believes that Mexico deliberately sends in illegal immigrants, right?

[Vassenor]

Some Examples of Trump attacking Hispanics:

1) Trump calling Mexican immigrants criminals, drug-smugglers, rapists. (Assumed some are good)

2) Trump claiming a Judge with Mexican heritage could not adjudicate him fairly

3) Trump referring to undocumented as "bad hombres" during a presidential debate

4) Trump pardoning of Joe Arpaio, who racially profiled Hispanics/Latinos, violating civil rights

5) Trump ending of DACA, which largely benefited Hispanic youth.

1. Only within the context of illegal immigrants.
2. Meh.
3. Seems accurate.
4. Meh.
5. DACA was never meant to be a permanent solution to the illegal immigrant youth problem. Besides, we need congress to settle the issue rather than the president.

Well it's nice to see people have no respect for the rule of law these days.

[Clintonburge]

"When Mexico sends its people, they're not sending their best. ... They're sending people that have lots of problems, and they're bringing those problems with us. They're bringing drugs. They're bringing crime. They're rapists. And some, I assume, are good people."

He specifically targets Mexican immigrants, not mentioning "illegal immigrants" at all. Pure bigotry.

Also for #5, ironically Jeff Sessions who was in Congress voted against a DACA legislation, which eventually led to Obama making an EO decision. Now, he wants Congress to decide...

You do realize that Trump believes that Mexico deliberately sends in illegal immigrants, right?

Trump's idiocy is not lost on me. He thinks a lot of things are true, like China and Global warming. Doesn't excuse the bigotry in his remarks.

[Northern Davincia]

1. Only within the context of illegal immigrants.
2. Meh.
3. Seems accurate.
4. Meh.
5. DACA was never meant to be a permanent solution to the illegal immigrant youth problem. Besides, we need congress to settle the issue rather than the president.

Well it's nice to see people have no respect for the rule of law these days.

It's mostly a lack of information on my part that prevents me from holding an opinion on Arpaio.

[Dushan]

The Alt-Right despises the Kekistani (Called Alt-Lite sometimes) due their support of civic nationalism.

Kylie Chapman himself got insulted by the Alt-Right because he made a point for classic american patriotism and civic nationalism.

There may be disagreements among those within the alt-right about "who is alt-right enough", but so long as they share the same characteristics it doesn't matter.

I am afraid, you might be slightly wrong there. It's an ultimatively fundamental disagreement about a very central question to almost every human group namely "Who belongs to it, and who can become part of it and who not?"

Eitherways this kind of generalization that does more than anything else support their cause. But go ahead and throw all the right together into one pot and lets see whats comming out there the next morning.

I don't know what that could be, but whatever it is I can guarantee you this:

You're not gonna like it.

[Vassenor]

Well it's nice to see people have no respect for the rule of law these days.

It's mostly a lack of information on my part that prevents me from holding an opinion on Arpaio.

We'll start with the racial profiling and corresponding disregard for the fourteenth amendment, and go from there through the human rights abuses (livestreaming inmates using the toilet says hi).

[Clintonburge]

There may be disagreements among those within the alt-right about "who is alt-right enough", but so long as they share the same characteristics it doesn't matter.

I am afraid, you're horribly wrong there. It's an ultimatively fundamental disagreement about a very central question to almost every human group namely "Who belongs to it, and who can become part of it and who not?"

Eitherways this kind of generalization that does more than anything else support their cause. But go ahead and throw all the right together into one pot and lets see whats comming out there the next morning.

I don't know what that could be, but whatever it is I can guarantee you this:

You're not gonna like it.

No generalizations are bring made. Principles of the Alt-right are:

Hated of Jews, Muslims, and ethnic minorities. The use of humor, while also using Nazi rhetoric to attract vulnerable audiences.

To go back to your idea, yes there are disagreements within groups, and the alt-right is no different. You're not "alt-right" if your a nationalist, patriot, etc. But if you also meet the above principles, then their is no need for further debate.

[Gauthier]

Some Examples of Trump attacking Hispanics:

1) Trump calling Mexican immigrants criminals, drug-smugglers, rapists. (Assumed some are good)

2) Trump claiming a Judge with Mexican heritage could not adjudicate him fairly

3) Trump referring to undocumented as "bad hombres" during a presidential debate

4) Trump pardoning of Joe Arpaio, who racially profiled Hispanics/Latinos, violating civil rights

5) Trump ending of DACA, which largely benefited Hispanic youth.

1. Only within the context of illegal immigrants.
2. Meh.
3. Seems accurate.
4. Meh.
5. DACA was never meant to be a permanent solution to the illegal immigrant youth problem. Besides, we need congress to settle the issue rather than the president.

So "meh" means "I don't think it's a big deal at all."

[The East Marches II]

I am afraid, you're horribly wrong there. It's an ultimatively fundamental disagreement about a very central question to almost every human group namely "Who belongs to it, and who can become part of it and who not?"

Eitherways this kind of generalization that does more than anything else support their cause. But go ahead and throw all the right together into one pot and lets see whats comming out there the next morning.

I don't know what that could be, but whatever it is I can guarantee you this:

You're not gonna like it.

No generalizations are bring made. Principles of the Alt-right are:

Hated of Jews, Muslims, and ethnic minorities. The use of humor, while also using Nazi rhetoric to attract vulnerable audiences.

To go back to your idea, yes there are disagreements within groups, and the alt-right is no different. You're not "alt-right" if your a nationalist, patriot, etc. But if you also meet the above principles, then their is no need for further debate.

Keep it up! You'll win the election next time I'm sure of it.

[Clintonburge]

It's finally dawned on Trump how much people 'hate' him — and he's pivoting to a new strategy

http://www.businessinsider.com/trump-pi ... him-2017-9

Trump...did it really take you 7 months to figure that out??
*sigh*
Guess it's better 7 months late than never at all

Trump could legalize weed, create single payer, free college education, and I still wouldn't support him.

[Northern Davincia]

1. Only within the context of illegal immigrants.
2. Meh.
3. Seems accurate.
4. Meh.
5. DACA was never meant to be a permanent solution to the illegal immigrant youth problem. Besides, we need congress to settle the issue rather than the president.

So "meh" means "I don't think it's a big deal at all."

No.

[Steffan]

It's finally dawned on Trump how much people 'hate' him — and he's pivoting to a new strategy

http://www.businessinsider.com/trump-pi ... him-2017-9

Trump...did it really take you 7 months to figure that out??
*sigh*
Guess it's better 7 months late than never at all

Trump could legalize weed, create single payer, free college education, and I still wouldn't support him.

I'm all good on that front

[Valrifell]

It's finally dawned on Trump how much people 'hate' him — and he's pivoting to a new strategy

http://www.businessinsider.com/trump-pi ... him-2017-9

Trump...did it really take you 7 months to figure that out??
*sigh*
Guess it's better 7 months late than never at all

Trump could legalize weed, create single payer, free college education, and I still wouldn't support him.

I wouldn't detest him, sure. I'd be more neutral, his personality perfectly offsetting him doing stuff I'd want in a politician.

[Senkaku]

So "meh" means "I don't think it's a big deal at all."

No.

No Gauth it's "meh" as in "meh it's racist and indefensible but I don't actually give a fuck"

[Senkaku]

It's finally dawned on Trump how much people 'hate' him — and he's pivoting to a new strategy

http://www.businessinsider.com/trump-pi ... him-2017-9

Trump...did it really take you 7 months to figure that out??
*sigh*
Guess it's better 7 months late than never at all

Trump could legalize weed, create single payer, free college education, and I still wouldn't support him.

that sounds like a case of

party

over

country

[Clintonburge]

Trump could legalize weed, create single payer, free college education, and I still wouldn't support him.

that sounds like a case of

party

over

country

No, Trump is terrible, he lies and is just in it for himself. Right now he is doing what ever he can to appeal to his shrinking base and doesn't care about everyone who didn't support him.

Being against Trump is not a partisan thing.

[Thyest]

that sounds like a case of

party

over

country

No, Trump is terrible, he lies and is just in it for himself. Right now he is doing what ever he can to appeal to his shrinking base and doesn't care about everyone who didn't support him.

Being against Trump is not a partisan thing.

Will this change your mind?

[Clintonburge]

No, Trump is terrible, he lies and is just in it for himself. Right now he is doing what ever he can to appeal to his shrinking base and doesn't care about everyone who didn't support him.

Being against Trump is not a partisan thing.

Will this change your mind?

Nice Trump propaganda, unfortunately won't change my attitude towards him or his abysmal approval ratings.

[Albrenia]

No, Trump is terrible, he lies and is just in it for himself. Right now he is doing what ever he can to appeal to his shrinking base and doesn't care about everyone who didn't support him.

Being against Trump is not a partisan thing.

Will this change your mind?

Pretty freakin' cool song though.

[Ifreann]

Trump could legalize weed, create single payer, free college education, and I still wouldn't support him.

that sounds like a case of

party

over

country

I don't know about that. Trump would still be a shit president if he was incompetently trying to do things I approve of in between playing golf and talking shit on Twitter. He'd still be using America's highest office to profit himself and his family. He'd still be a detestable human being I'd cross the road to avoid. I'd prefer if he was freeing the weed or whatever while doing those things, but a bad president doing things I like is still a bad president.

[Proctopeo]

1. Only within the context of illegal immigrants.
2. Meh.
3. Seems accurate.
4. Meh.
5. DACA was never meant to be a permanent solution to the illegal immigrant youth problem. Besides, we need congress to settle the issue rather than the president.

Well it's nice to see people have no respect for the rule of law these days.

Vassenor, I wonder.
If you were alive when Gerald Ford pardoned Richard Nixon, would you consider people neutral or in support of this "...[having] no respect for rule of law..."?

[Vassenor]

Well it's nice to see people have no respect for the rule of law these days.

Vassenor, I wonder.
If you were alive when Gerald Ford pardoned Richard Nixon, would you consider people neutral or in support of this "...[having] no respect for rule of law..."?

What crime was Nixon tried and convicted of?

[Proctopeo]

Vassenor, I wonder.
If you were alive when Gerald Ford pardoned Richard Nixon, would you consider people neutral or in support of this "...[having] no respect for rule of law..."?

What crime was Nixon tried and convicted of?

Richard Nixon was facing near-certain impeachment by the House of Representatives, and more importantly, equally certain conviction for the Watergate scandal in the Senate.
He wasn't quite convicted yet, but it was rather close and effectively certain that he did what he was accused of.

If Donald Trump pardoned Joe Arpaio prior to his conviction, but near the end of the trial, what would you think?