Christian Discussion Thread VIII: Augustine's Revenge.

[Nordengrund]

Guys, I have a hernia. Please pray for me.

I just did. Get well soon.

Thanks.

[Hakons]

Again, this isn't exactly a religious issue, more a sociopolitical one. I can understand feeling uneasy about political pursuasions in the current climate. But at best all I can advise you is to compartmentalize your thought processes. Don't inherently tie your political identity to your religous one.

I wasn't talking about tying my political identity to my religious one. I don't really like what they have to say about a lot of things, they are most of the ones that are promoting that LGBT people should be frowned (including somewhat of a specific focus on LGBT public figures and the media/entertainment) and even promoting that God himself should eternally punish them. Even though I believe that sometimes, it's more about them saying that they believe is wrong than it is that they are actually making direct threats to LGBT groups, it's still very sick tough-talking to say this type of stuff, especially broadcast on TV as The 700 Club.

That still doesn't make me more confident in my belief that their "prophecies" are by any likelihood total BS.

LGBT people shouldn't be frowned upon. They are sinners just as we are and our neighbors should be loved. Still sexual acts outside of marriage must be avoided by all people. What prophecies are you talking about?

Guys, I have a hernia. Please pray for me.

My mom had a hernia a few years ago. She got better pretty quickly, so hang in there!

[The Parkus Empire]

Again, this isn't exactly a religious issue, more a sociopolitical one. I can understand feeling uneasy about political pursuasions in the current climate. But at best all I can advise you is to compartmentalize your thought processes. Don't inherently tie your political identity to your religous one.

I wasn't talking about tying my political identity to my religious one. I don't really like what they have to say about a lot of things, they are most of the ones that are promoting that LGBT people should be frowned (including somewhat of a specific focus on LGBT public figures and the media/entertainment) and even promoting that God himself should eternally punish them. Even though I believe that sometimes, it's more about them saying that they believe is wrong than it is that they are actually making direct threats to LGBT groups, it's still very sick tough-talking to say this type of stuff, especially broadcast on TV as The 700 Club.

That still doesn't make me more confident in my belief that their "prophecies" are by any likelihood total BS.

It's a breach of Christian morality to evaluate non-Christians by Christian morality.

[Hakons]

I wasn't talking about tying my political identity to my religious one. I don't really like what they have to say about a lot of things, they are most of the ones that are promoting that LGBT people should be frowned (including somewhat of a specific focus on LGBT public figures and the media/entertainment) and even promoting that God himself should eternally punish them. Even though I believe that sometimes, it's more about them saying that they believe is wrong than it is that they are actually making direct threats to LGBT groups, it's still very sick tough-talking to say this type of stuff, especially broadcast on TV as The 700 Club.

That still doesn't make me more confident in my belief that their "prophecies" are by any likelihood total BS.

It's a breach of Christian morality to evaluate non-Christians by Christian morality.

There is only one morality. We shouldn't judge and condemn people, but we must say what is sinful.

[The Parkus Empire]

It's a breach of Christian morality to evaluate non-Christians by Christian morality.

There is only one morality. We shouldn't judge and condemn people, but we must say what is sinful.

Saying someone sins is condemning them.

[United Muscovite Nations]

There is only one morality. We shouldn't judge and condemn people, but we must say what is sinful.

Saying someone sins is condemning them.

Not anymore than you condemn yourself by admitting you sin. Condemn in this context implies some kind of punishment.

[The Parkus Empire]

Saying someone sins is condemning them.

Not anymore than you condemn yourself by admitting you sin. Condemn in this context implies some kind of punishment.

You are condemning yourself. Which is a core element of Christianity

[United Muscovite Nations]

Not anymore than you condemn yourself by admitting you sin. Condemn in this context implies some kind of punishment.

You are condemning yourself. Which is a core element of Christianity

We don't have the authority for condemnation. As I said, condemnation implies punishment.

[The Parkus Empire]

You are condemning yourself. Which is a core element of Christianity

We don't have the authority for condemnation. As I said, condemnation implies punishment.

It can, but it can also mean simply saying something in condemnation.

[Storhjaltland]

Saying someone sins is condemning them.

Yes it is.

And so f*cking what? Is pronouncing someone guilty of sin a crime? No, it is our duty to reveal sinners and help them redeem themselves through love, understanding and compassion. Shutting out the sins of others and doing nothing to help them is lazy and goes against the lessons of the New Testament.

[NewLakotah]

I wasn't talking about tying my political identity to my religious one. I don't really like what they have to say about a lot of things, they are most of the ones that are promoting that LGBT people should be frowned (including somewhat of a specific focus on LGBT public figures and the media/entertainment) and even promoting that God himself should eternally punish them. Even though I believe that sometimes, it's more about them saying that they believe is wrong than it is that they are actually making direct threats to LGBT groups, it's still very sick tough-talking to say this type of stuff, especially broadcast on TV as The 700 Club.

That still doesn't make me more confident in my belief that their "prophecies" are by any likelihood total BS.

It's a breach of Christian morality to evaluate non-Christians by Christian morality.

Now I agree that non-Christians won't hold to the same morality standards as we Christians do, however, that being said, it is our goal to be a Light to the darkness of the world around us. It is not hateful to point out and guide non-Christians towards right, when the path they are on leads to eternal hell. When you love someone, you are going to be there to ensure that they are going along the right path. This goes for non-Christians as well. We are not told to be judgmental or act as any type of authority, but instead let God judge Righteously. However, we do have his Word to go by, and therefore can help guide people along, through love and compassion, towards the Truth.

[Pasong Tirad]

It's a breach of Christian morality to evaluate non-Christians by Christian morality.

Now I agree that non-Christians won't hold to the same morality standards as we Christians do, however, that being said, it is our goal to be a Light to the darkness of the world around us. It is not hateful to point out and guide non-Christians towards right, when the path they are on leads to eternal hell. When you love someone, you are going to be there to ensure that they are going along the right path. This goes for non-Christians as well. We are not told to be judgmental or act as any type of authority, but instead let God judge Righteously. However, we do have his Word to go by, and therefore can help guide people along, through love and compassion, towards the Truth.

Paul agrees (unless I've taken this verse completely out of context).

For why should I be judging outsiders? Is it not your business to judge those within?
1 Corinthians 5:12

[Lady Scylla]

It's a breach of Christian morality to evaluate non-Christians by Christian morality.

There is only one morality. We shouldn't judge and condemn people, but we must say what is sinful.

Or just keep it to yourself.

[Lady Scylla]

You are condemning yourself. Which is a core element of Christianity

We don't have the authority for condemnation. As I said, condemnation implies punishment.

Though it's disingenuous, and really intellectually dishonest to imply that people don't do this themselves anyway, both you and myself included. Most are just smart enough to keep such opinions to themselves in favour of not becoming a social outcast.

[Samkheidzo]

Hey! I guess I should introduce myself, maybe? I don't know what the protocol is.

I'm an (Eastern) Orthodox Christian, and I am really interested in the topic of religion/theology. I used to use NationStates years ago but forgot all about it. Decided to come back and saw this thread, it caught my eye as one of my interests. I'm looking forward to discussing more with people here!

[Pasong Tirad]

Any Christian perspectives on the immigration troubles America seems to be having right now?

[Czechanada]

New Fighting Game Lets You Play as Jesus and Other Gods

[Tarsonis Survivors]

Now I agree that non-Christians won't hold to the same morality standards as we Christians do, however, that being said, it is our goal to be a Light to the darkness of the world around us. It is not hateful to point out and guide non-Christians towards right, when the path they are on leads to eternal hell. When you love someone, you are going to be there to ensure that they are going along the right path. This goes for non-Christians as well. We are not told to be judgmental or act as any type of authority, but instead let God judge Righteously. However, we do have his Word to go by, and therefore can help guide people along, through love and compassion, towards the Truth.

Paul agrees (unless I've taken this verse completely out of context).

For why should I be judging outsiders? Is it not your business to judge those within?
1 Corinthians 5:12

It's not exactly a breach of ethics here, more a question of practicality.

[United Muscovite Nations]

Hey! I guess I should introduce myself, maybe? I don't know what the protocol is.

I'm an (Eastern) Orthodox Christian, and I am really interested in the topic of religion/theology. I used to use NationStates years ago but forgot all about it. Decided to come back and saw this thread, it caught my eye as one of my interests. I'm looking forward to discussing more with people here!

Welcome! You're using the Georgian flag, are you Georgian?

[Gim]

Hey! I guess I should introduce myself, maybe? I don't know what the protocol is.

I'm an (Eastern) Orthodox Christian, and I am really interested in the topic of religion/theology. I used to use NationStates years ago but forgot all about it. Decided to come back and saw this thread, it caught my eye as one of my interests. I'm looking forward to discussing more with people here!

Welcome!

[Samkheidzo]

Hey! I guess I should introduce myself, maybe? I don't know what the protocol is.

I'm an (Eastern) Orthodox Christian, and I am really interested in the topic of religion/theology. I used to use NationStates years ago but forgot all about it. Decided to come back and saw this thread, it caught my eye as one of my interests. I'm looking forward to discussing more with people here!

Welcome! You're using the Georgian flag, are you Georgian?

დიახ მე ვარ. Are you Russian? I should preface that I live in the United States currently and my parish is OCA but I was raised/baptised in the Georgian Orthodox Church.

Hey! I guess I should introduce myself, maybe? I don't know what the protocol is.

I'm an (Eastern) Orthodox Christian, and I am really interested in the topic of religion/theology. I used to use NationStates years ago but forgot all about it. Decided to come back and saw this thread, it caught my eye as one of my interests. I'm looking forward to discussing more with people here!

Welcome!

Thank you!

[Gim]

Welcome! You're using the Georgian flag, are you Georgian?

დიახ მე ვარ. Are you Russian? I should preface that I live in the United States currently and my parish is OCA but I was raised/baptised in the Georgian Orthodox Church.

Welcome!

Thank you!

Wow, that's nice to hear. I watched Wizard of Landscape on MBC, and Georgia looked so vast and lush.

[United Muscovite Nations]

Welcome! You're using the Georgian flag, are you Georgian?

დიახ მე ვარ. Are you Russian? I should preface that I live in the United States currently and my parish is OCA but I was raised/baptised in the Georgian Orthodox Church.

I'm not Russian; I'm a convert in America, but with an interest in Russian history. Georgia has a very underrated history though, and continues to be one of the most devout countries in the world.

[Gim]

დიახ მე ვარ. Are you Russian? I should preface that I live in the United States currently and my parish is OCA but I was raised/baptised in the Georgian Orthodox Church.

I'm not Russian; I'm a convert in America, but with an interest in Russian history. Georgia has a very underrated history though, and continues to be one of the most devout countries in the world.

Yeah, I saw on Wizard of Landscape of men trying to hitchhike and the driver won't receive any compensation for hitchhiking. Now, that's generosity.

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

Hey! I guess I should introduce myself, maybe? I don't know what the protocol is.

I'm an (Eastern) Orthodox Christian, and I am really interested in the topic of religion/theology. I used to use NationStates years ago but forgot all about it. Decided to come back and saw this thread, it caught my eye as one of my interests. I'm looking forward to discussing more with people here!

Welcome to the thread!

Be careful, this place has arguments that are longer than some of the worst fanfics I have ever read.