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German mayoral candidate for banning Arabic numerals...

Postby Petrolheadia » Sun Sep 03, 2017 3:25 am

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http://www.politico.eu/article/far-righ ... -numerals/

On 1st September 2017, Otfried Best, the NPD candidate for the mayor of Völkingen, was asked by one of the Die Partei members:
"Mr. Best … I find it alarming that in Völklingen many house numbers are displayed in Arabic numerals. How would you like to take action against this creeping foreigner infiltration?"

To the surprise of everybody involved, he answered seriously:
"You just wait until I am mayor. I will change that. Then there will be normal numbers."

Mr. Best has not commented on the situation yet. For the record, the Arabic numerals are the ones most commonly used in modern mathematical writing.

What do you think about it?

Personally, I am of the opinion that this makes Mr. Best pretty much unelectable. Even if he has any good policies, such gaps in common knowledge shouldn't be present in a government official.
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Postby Polish Madagaskar » Sun Sep 03, 2017 3:29 am

thats pretty ebin joke tbh fam

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Postby Gondore and Arnore » Sun Sep 03, 2017 3:31 am

The NPD is a neo-Nazi party, but in this case I agree with Mr. Best. One should subsidize the use of Latin numbers.

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Postby Vassenor » Sun Sep 03, 2017 3:33 am

Pretty sure that what we call "Arabic numerals" aren't Arabic. They're Indian.
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Postby Shetl » Sun Sep 03, 2017 3:35 am

Reminds me of the Samstag Nacht (German SNL clone) street bits in the 90s - "did you know Roman Herzog is a staunch heterosexual, and would you vote for such a person?"

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Postby Kenmoria » Sun Sep 03, 2017 3:36 am

I... just... this is human ignorance at its finest. At this point, I genuinely wouldn't care if his policies were the best on Earth, this is simply unacceptable. He need to return to school with immediate effect.
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Postby Cetacea » Sun Sep 03, 2017 3:38 am

Yes we should return to use of proper Indo-European tally marks not this foreign philosophy of Al-gebra

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Postby Cetacea » Sun Sep 03, 2017 3:42 am

Vassenor wrote:Pretty sure that what we call "Arabic numerals" aren't Arabic. They're Indian.


nope the modern form of Numbers was developed by Iraqi mathematicians in the Maghreb, they are however based on the older Indic Numerals of India

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Postby Ostroeuropa » Sun Sep 03, 2017 3:43 am

Cetacea wrote:
Vassenor wrote:Pretty sure that what we call "Arabic numerals" aren't Arabic. They're Indian.


nope the modern form of Numbers was developed by Iraqi mathematicians in the Maghreb, they are however based on the older Indic Numerals of India


Hindu-Arabic Numerals is an acceptable term for them.
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Postby Arcanda » Sun Sep 03, 2017 3:46 am

I wouldn't expect anything else from the left but to judge the candidate on a single answer to a pretty nonsensical question, asked by a member of a literally satirical political party (Dei Partei). When one ask such dumb questions, one should expect to receive an answer of the same degree. So that's pretty much a non-event, and has little political value beside comedy. Show me that this proposal is in his official manifesto and then it may be a legitime thing to question his sanity.

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Postby Xibei-San-Ma » Sun Sep 03, 2017 3:47 am

Gondore and Arnore wrote:The NPD is a neo-Nazi party, but in this case I agree with Mr. Best. One should subsidize the use of Latin numbers.

But Arabic numbers are better suited for maths than Latin numbers. For example, multiplication and division in Latin numbers is simply a headache.
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Postby Polish Madagaskar » Sun Sep 03, 2017 3:50 am

Xibei-San-Ma wrote:
Gondore and Arnore wrote:The NPD is a neo-Nazi party, but in this case I agree with Mr. Best. One should subsidize the use of Latin numbers.

But Arabic numbers are better suited for maths than Latin numbers. For example, multiplication and division in Latin numbers is simply a headache.

you are saying that only because you are not used to them. if you used them from birth they would be just as easy as normal numbers to you.

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Postby Untoreragarekinae » Sun Sep 03, 2017 3:51 am

Why are you even talking about this stuff?
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Postby Guelder » Sun Sep 03, 2017 3:52 am

I also support banning Arabic numerals
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Postby Taviana SSR » Sun Sep 03, 2017 3:53 am

Shows once more how fascism is still strong in capitalist Germany. The government is more interested in smearing the legacy of the antifascist GDR than lerning from the terrors of fascism. Capitalism gives birth to fascism, as seen by the neofascist racist party of AfD being 3rd in polls.

I hope The Left, DKP and MLPD gain majority in elections.
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Postby Guelder » Sun Sep 03, 2017 3:54 am

Taviana SSR wrote:Shows once more how fascism is still strong in capitalist Germany. The government is more interested in smearing the legacy of the antifascist GDR than lerning from the terrors of fascism. Capitalism gives birth to fascism, as seen by the neofascist racist party of AfD being 3rd in polls.

I hope The Left, DKP and MLPD gain majority in elections.


AfD isn't a naeofascist racist party
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Postby Taviana SSR » Sun Sep 03, 2017 3:56 am

Guelder wrote:
Taviana SSR wrote:Shows once more how fascism is still strong in capitalist Germany. The government is more interested in smearing the legacy of the antifascist GDR than lerning from the terrors of fascism. Capitalism gives birth to fascism, as seen by the neofascist racist party of AfD being 3rd in polls.

I hope The Left, DKP and MLPD gain majority in elections.


AfD isn't a naeofascist racist party


Yes it is, even more than the NPD. Remember the candidate talking about getting rid of German integration minister Ozuguz and deporting her to anatolia: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/politics/who-are-afd-german-election-racist-immigration-alexander-gauland-aydan-ozoguz-right-wing-a7917606.html
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Taviana SSR wrote:
Guelder wrote:
AfD isn't a naeofascist racist party


Yes it is, even more than the NPD. Remember the candidate talking about getting rid of German integration minister Ozuguz and deporting her to anatolia: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/politics/who-are-afd-german-election-racist-immigration-alexander-gauland-aydan-ozoguz-right-wing-a7917606.html


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Guelder wrote:
Taviana SSR wrote:
Yes it is, even more than the NPD. Remember the candidate talking about getting rid of German integration minister Ozuguz and deporting her to anatolia: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/politics/who-are-afd-german-election-racist-immigration-alexander-gauland-aydan-ozoguz-right-wing-a7917606.html


Liberal crying


So let's see evidence that they're not a "naeofascist[sic] racist party".
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Postby Taviana SSR » Sun Sep 03, 2017 4:03 am

Guelder wrote:
Taviana SSR wrote:
Yes it is, even more than the NPD. Remember the candidate talking about getting rid of German integration minister Ozuguz and deporting her to anatolia: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/politics/who-are-afd-german-election-racist-immigration-alexander-gauland-aydan-ozoguz-right-wing-a7917606.html


Liberal crying


I would not say that the AfD is national-liberal any more, but rather that the extreme right elements took over in the last years after the original leadership was ousted. More like fascist but under a bougeois facade due to being german.
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Postby Guelder » Sun Sep 03, 2017 4:04 am

Taviana SSR wrote:
Guelder wrote:
Liberal crying


I would not say that the AfD is national-liberal any more, but rather that the extreme right elements took over in the last years after the original leadership was ousted. More like fascist but under a bougeois facade due to being german.


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Postby Xibei-San-Ma » Sun Sep 03, 2017 4:21 am

Well, let's take an 123x165 in Latin numbers, for example. (CXXIII is 123, CLXV- 165)

CXXIII
CLXV


D LL VVV
M CC XXX
MMMMM DD LLL
MMMMMMMMMMMM CCC


MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM DDD CCCCC LLLLL XXX VVV
CCCCCCC L XXXX V
DDDD
MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM


MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMCCLXXXXV (Answer is 20 295)

See, what I mean? Sure, if I used them from birth, I would calculate with them as well as with normal numbers, but they still are quite impractical, because Latin numbers don't have a single symbol for zero, and if even they had, it simply wouldn't have been fitted in their writing system.

Latin number calculating may be not exactly precise in some places, because of format, but it still shows, what I mean.
Source: Book ''Think of a number'', written by Johnny Ball

Edit: Format was a bigger issue, than I thought. Idk, how to make spaces appear as a zeros.
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This has to be a joke, right?
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