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Postby Corrian » Sat Aug 26, 2017 6:30 pm

You're copying me.
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Postby AiliailiA » Sat Aug 26, 2017 6:34 pm

Corrian wrote:You're copying me.


It just happens. Over hundreds of pages it's bound to happen to anyone who posts as much as you or I.
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Postby Jefferson-Madison » Sat Aug 26, 2017 6:34 pm

He's a pretty bad president. Worse than Duterte tbh. He is quite racist and he just whines and whines on Twitter like as if people are swayed by his poor ideals for a nation.
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Postby Corrian » Sat Aug 26, 2017 6:35 pm

Jefferson-Madison wrote:He's a pretty bad president. Worse than Duterte tbh. He is quite racist and he just whines and whines on Twitter like as if people are swayed by his poor ideals for a nation.

Worse than Duterte? That might be pushing it.
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Postby AiliailiA » Sat Aug 26, 2017 6:36 pm

Corrian wrote:
Jefferson-Madison wrote:He's a pretty bad president. Worse than Duterte tbh. He is quite racist and he just whines and whines on Twitter like as if people are swayed by his poor ideals for a nation.

Worse than Duterte? That might be pushing it.


I guess. At least Trump hasn't admitted to murdering people like that's a good thing.
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Postby Ifreann » Sat Aug 26, 2017 6:39 pm

Calladan wrote:Just listen to what Obama has to say about The White House correspondents

So once you've listened to what he has to say about the press corps at The White House, compare and contrast that to what the current President has to say about it.

Also go back and watch the rest of the video, because it is truly hilarious in places.

But then listen to the end again, because it is somewhat humbling when you think about the rants that the current incumbent has gone off on.

Obama 2020.

Incidentally, Hasan Minaj's 2017 monologue is worth watching. But yeah, Obama 2020.


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Ifreann wrote:Very true. Not that I care strongly about the wallets of people who would back something on Hatreon, but on general principle I'd warn anyone thinking of parting with their money to be very wary and don't just assume they're on the level because they claim to share your ideological bent. Don't part with a red cent unless you're 100% sure that you can live without both that red cent and without whatever work you're "hatronising". You could easily lose your money and get nothing in return.


But muh submarine! I've got the captain's hat, the bullhorn and the map of the Gulf of Texas, everything I just need a submarine. You're scaring off muh deckhands too ...

Well in this particular instance I can say that there are few men as fit to lead a crew against Posiedon in his own murky realm than Captain Sir AiliailiA, first of his name.
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Postby Senkaku » Sat Aug 26, 2017 6:39 pm

AiliailiA wrote:
Corrian wrote:You're copying me.


It just happens. Over hundreds of pages it's bound to happen to anyone who posts as much as you or I.

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AiliailiA wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Very true. Not that I care strongly about the wallets of people who would back something on Hatreon, but on general principle I'd warn anyone thinking of parting with their money to be very wary and don't just assume they're on the level because they claim to share your ideological bent. Don't part with a red cent unless you're 100% sure that you can live without both that red cent and without whatever work you're "hatronising". You could easily lose your money and get nothing in return.


But muh submarine! I've got the captain's hat, the bullhorn and the map of the Gulf of Texas, everything I just need a submarine. You're scaring off muh deckhands too ...

*gets torpedoed by cartel submarine*
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Postby Hittanryan » Sat Aug 26, 2017 6:40 pm

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Hittanryan wrote:You'll never convince the anti-drug crowd of this. All they can see when someone chooses to use a recreational drug is a moral failing. Marijuana breeds slacker hippies undermining the good Protestant work ethic America was founded on, for example. According to them, drugs are immoral and they must never be used--except for caffeine, alcohol, and tobacco, because the drugs commonly used by anti-drug campaigners themselves are not immoral, obviously.


To be fair, some are like Mormons and also eschew the legal drugs. And the attitude towards marijuana is softening a lot, so I wouldn't draw conclusions about the other illegal drugs from the stereotype of a pot smokers. The poster did choose a specific example, of heroin, and my reply "treat addiction as a medical problem" is tailored to that: the addictive properties ARE a problem, whether the drug was legalized/decriminalized or not.

Heroin has another huge downside too, it's that the lethal dose isn't much more than the recreational or medical dose. Criminalization makes this much worse, as users aren't sure what they're getting (zero government regulation there). This is specific to opioids, and while it probably won't convince Oil Exporting People I hope they'll consider it.


EDIT: Top of page for the third time in four pages. Not doing it on purpose I swear.

Perhaps I misunderstood. Groups like Focus on the Family which retain hardline anti-marijuana positions basically have a knee-jerk reaction to all drugs under all circumstances.

Personally, I wouldn't want to encourage the recreational use of drugs which have serious health, addiction, and overdose risks at low dosages either. Our healthcare system does a bad enough job at providing basic healthcare, to say nothing of treating drug abuse. Drugs like heroin, other opioids, and methamphetamine should be discouraged by the most effective means possible. I'm not convinced that the War on Drugs is the most effective means.
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Postby Jefferson-Madison » Sat Aug 26, 2017 6:41 pm

Ifreann wrote:
Calladan wrote:Just listen to what Obama has to say about The White House correspondents

So once you've listened to what he has to say about the press corps at The White House, compare and contrast that to what the current President has to say about it.

Also go back and watch the rest of the video, because it is truly hilarious in places.

But then listen to the end again, because it is somewhat humbling when you think about the rants that the current incumbent has gone off on.

Obama 2020.

Incidentally, Hasan Minaj's 2017 monologue is worth watching. But yeah, Obama 2020.


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But muh submarine! I've got the captain's hat, the bullhorn and the map of the Gulf of Texas, everything I just need a submarine. You're scaring off muh deckhands too ...

Well in this particular instance I can say that there are few men as fit to lead a crew against Posiedon in his own murky realm than Captain Sir AiliailiA, first of his name.

Absolutely yes to Obama 2020 :bow: :bow: :hug: so he can fix what Trump broke (i.e. intercultural relations and shiz)
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Postby Senkaku » Sat Aug 26, 2017 6:42 pm

Saiwania wrote:
So far as advertising goes, there is a disreputable element to that industry. Certain advertisers won't care, from their perspective some views are better than no views. It means they pocket some money they otherwise wouldn't get either way. If such a website can't get mainstream advertisers, they can easily go for the porn or malware infested ads.

Ta-da, we've forced the alt-right into fringe sites no normal people would visit!

Jefferson-Madison wrote:He's a pretty bad president. Worse than Duterte tbh. He is quite racist and he just whines and whines on Twitter like as if people are swayed by his poor ideals for a nation.

Okay, I fucking detest Donald Trump, but he hasn't spearheaded a vigilante murder campaign that's killed tens of thousands or led death squads at any point in his life.
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Postby Ifreann » Sat Aug 26, 2017 6:48 pm

Senkaku wrote:
Saiwania wrote:
So far as advertising goes, there is a disreputable element to that industry. Certain advertisers won't care, from their perspective some views are better than no views. It means they pocket some money they otherwise wouldn't get either way. If such a website can't get mainstream advertisers, they can easily go for the porn or malware infested ads.

Ta-da, we've forced the alt-right into fringe sites no normal people would visit!

Jefferson-Madison wrote:He's a pretty bad president. Worse than Duterte tbh. He is quite racist and he just whines and whines on Twitter like as if people are swayed by his poor ideals for a nation.

Okay, I fucking detest Donald Trump, but he hasn't spearheaded a vigilante murder campaign that's killed tens of thousands or led death squads at any point in his life.

Yet.
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Postby Senkaku » Sat Aug 26, 2017 6:49 pm

Ifreann wrote:
Senkaku wrote:Ta-da, we've forced the alt-right into fringe sites no normal people would visit!


Okay, I fucking detest Donald Trump, but he hasn't spearheaded a vigilante murder campaign that's killed tens of thousands or led death squads at any point in his life.

Yet.

Which makes him better than Duterte, who already has. :p
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Postby AiliailiA » Sat Aug 26, 2017 6:58 pm

Ifreann wrote:
AiliailiA wrote:
But muh submarine! I've got the captain's hat, the bullhorn and the map of the Gulf of Texas, everything I just need a submarine. You're scaring off muh deckhands too ...

Well in this particular instance I can say that there are few men as fit to lead a crew against Posiedon in his own murky realm than Captain Sir AiliailiA, first of his name.

"Poseidon in his murky realm" has a great ring to it, but as a white supremacist I've always been a bit unsure about Romans. Great empire, all the military stuff, but people forget they were southern European. And Caesar slept with an Egyptian chick, we don't do that.
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Postby Saiwania » Sat Aug 26, 2017 7:01 pm

Valrifell wrote:You won't see alt-right social media sites gain traction for the same reason they haven't popped up til now, general social media already fills that niche handedly. Patreon being no exception.


It doesn't fulfill that niche obviously, if right wingers have to worry about a bunch of liberals who run Youtube, Facebook, or whatever- suddenly banning or deleting them anytime there is a certain incident that casts their political ideologies in a bad light. To the alt-right, someone like Mark Zuckerberg is a Jew- a group that they very much express a ton of vitriol for for whatever reason.

Super right wingers don't want to be vulnerable to purges by liberal tech giants, they want to seize a certain degree of control and anonymity.

I find that there are just as many scammers on Patreon as there is on any other crowdfunding website. Realistically speaking, there is no such thing as a mechanism which ensures that any money you donate is actually used for an intended purpose. People who send money do so under the assumption that they won't see that money ever again. It isn't an investment platform, more like a charity that is completely unregulated.
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Postby Galloism » Sat Aug 26, 2017 7:08 pm

Corrian wrote:So Bears Ears has been recommended to be shrunken by 88%

Sounds like they'll need a big nail file.
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Postby Mike the Progressive » Sat Aug 26, 2017 7:31 pm

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Mike the Progressive wrote:
But I'm not sure that's all that's left. Yes there is disgust, disagreement, and disdain... but there is more of that with Democrats than over Trump. As the GOP won't try to split the ticket in 2020 in fear of losing the WH, I can see 2020 being a repeat of 2004. He's playing hard to his base just as Bush did when the anti-gay marriage constitutional amendment BS and the touch of terrorism act.

That's the thing isn't it?
How many of Trump supporters are actually FOR Trump and not just ANTI Democrat?


But it doesn't matter at the end of the day. I mean I know what you're saying a lot of friends that I have who are Trump supporters didn't vote for him because they liked him. On the contrary, they hated Hillary and Sanders and the Democrats.

But it's not new. It's just like a lot of people voted for Hillary because they hated Trump.

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Postby Ifreann » Sat Aug 26, 2017 7:33 pm

AiliailiA wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Well in this particular instance I can say that there are few men as fit to lead a crew against Posiedon in his own murky realm than Captain Sir AiliailiA, first of his name.

"Poseidon in his murky realm" has a great ring to it, but as a white supremacist I've always been a bit unsure about Romans. Great empire, all the military stuff, but people forget they were southern European. And Caesar slept with an Egyptian chick, we don't do that.

A good point. Scratch Posiedon. Ahah! Jormungandr, the World Serpent. Who would dare approach it without the favour of Thor, Odinson, protector of mankind? Sail under the captain who has that favour for only $15 a month.
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Postby Salus Maior » Sat Aug 26, 2017 7:35 pm

AiliailiA wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Well in this particular instance I can say that there are few men as fit to lead a crew against Posiedon in his own murky realm than Captain Sir AiliailiA, first of his name.

"Poseidon in his murky realm" has a great ring to it, but as a white supremacist I've always been a bit unsure about Romans. Great empire, all the military stuff, but people forget they were southern European. And Caesar slept with an Egyptian chick, we don't do that.


Well technically Cleopatra was a Greek descended from Alexander's generals.
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Postby Gim » Sat Aug 26, 2017 8:42 pm

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AiliailiA wrote:"Poseidon in his murky realm" has a great ring to it, but as a white supremacist I've always been a bit unsure about Romans. Great empire, all the military stuff, but people forget they were southern European. And Caesar slept with an Egyptian chick, we don't do that.


Well technically Cleopatra was a Greek descended from Alexander's generals.


What?
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Postby Geilinor » Sat Aug 26, 2017 8:47 pm

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Well technically Cleopatra was a Greek descended from Alexander's generals.


What?

Cleopatra was from a Greek dynasty.
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Postby Gim » Sat Aug 26, 2017 8:50 pm

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Gim wrote:
What?

Cleopatra was from a Greek dynasty.


What about Egypt?
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Postby Corrian » Sat Aug 26, 2017 9:01 pm

Jefferson-Madison wrote:Absolutely yes to Obama 2020 :bow: :bow: :hug: so he can fix what Trump broke (i.e. intercultural relations and shiz)

Now if, you know...that was legal...

Which it isn't.

Also would rather someone else in general.

...Maybe, depending on who the Democrats actually put out there in 2020.
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Postby Gim » Sat Aug 26, 2017 9:02 pm

Corrian wrote:
Jefferson-Madison wrote:Absolutely yes to Obama 2020 :bow: :bow: :hug: so he can fix what Trump broke (i.e. intercultural relations and shiz)

Now if, you know...that was legal...

Which it isn't.

Also would rather someone else in general.

...Maybe, depending on who the Democrats actually put out there in 2020.


Clinton, please.
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Postby The Flutterlands » Sat Aug 26, 2017 9:04 pm

Gim wrote:
Corrian wrote:Now if, you know...that was legal...

Which it isn't.

Also would rather someone else in general.

...Maybe, depending on who the Democrats actually put out there in 2020.


Clinton, please.

Why? Good luck with that ever happening.
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Postby Gim » Sat Aug 26, 2017 9:04 pm

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Clinton, please.

Why? Good luck with that ever happening.


Not Bill Clinton, obviously. Hilary Clinton.
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