Who was worse Hitler or Stalin?

[Cosmopoles]

Forgive my ignorance, but what is a 'tankie'?

Someone who is a supporter of the Soviet Union. It was originally used in 1968 to describe those who defended the Soviet use of tanks to crush Czechoslovakia; hence "tankie".

I understand that the usage actually started much later, but the root of the idea is the split in European communist groups after the Hungarian invasion of '56 between those who essentially bought the Soviet justification and those who didn't.

I wouldn't say its simply those who support the Soviet Union but rather those who fully buy into Soviet propaganda to justify their actions, for example that Czechoslovakia was being taken over by Western sponsored fascists necessitating a Warsaw Pact invasion rather than the need to end the threat that a democratic socialist government would pose to the rest of the bloc's control over their own people.

Nowadays it tends to refer to leftists willing to back pretty much any country that acts in opposition to the US/NATO despite not really having any real socialist credentials themselves (like Iran or Russia) or being a total basket case (like North Korea).

[Dylar]

This is literally asking "Which is worse: getting stung by a thousand bees, or getting stung from a thousand wasps?"

[Hirota]

This is literally asking "Which is worse: getting stung by a thousand bees, or getting stung from a thousand wasps?"

I was thinking giant douche or turd sandwich personally.

[The Grene Knyght]

This is literally asking "Which is worse: getting stung by a thousand bees, or getting stung from a thousand wasps?"

Actually, I believe what it's literally asking is "Who was worse Hitler or Stalin?"
And besides, obviously it'd be worse getting stung by 1,000 wasps, since they can sting you more than 1,000 times

[Dylar]

This is literally asking "Which is worse: getting stung by a thousand bees, or getting stung from a thousand wasps?"

Actually, I believe what it's literally asking is "Who was worse Hitler or Stalin?"
And besides, obviously it'd be worse getting stung by 1,000 wasps, since they can sting you more than 1,000 times

Maybe I was talking about bumblebees and not honeybees, for they too can sting more than once...which is why I'm terrified of them, that and they also tend to go for the eyes...

[Sovaal]

This is literally asking "Which is worse: getting stung by a thousand bees, or getting stung from a thousand wasps?"

Actually, I believe what it's literally asking is "Who was worse Hitler or Stalin?"
And besides, obviously it'd be worse getting stung by 1,000 wasps, since they can sting you more than 1,000 times

Not all bee species die when they sting, for example, bumble bees.

[Sovaal]

Actually, I believe what it's literally asking is "Who was worse Hitler or Stalin?"
And besides, obviously it'd be worse getting stung by 1,000 wasps, since they can sting you more than 1,000 times

Maybe I was talking about bumblebees and not honeybees, for they too can sting more than once...which is why I'm terrified of them, that and they also tend to go for the eyes...

Just make sure to not run into any Africanized bees without a flamethrower.

[Wysten]

Maybe I was talking about bumblebees and not honeybees, for they too can sting more than once...which is why I'm terrified of them, that and they also tend to go for the eyes...

Just make sure to not run into any Africanized bees without a flamethrower.

I don't even think that would work.

[Tokora]

What made the Nazi's uniqe was that as opposed to being collateral damage, the Jews were intentionally rounded up and exterminated.

And I'm not dening that. But rounding up specific people based on their beleifs or ethniticity and sending them to death camps is something STalin did too.

Which is exactly my point. Because they're pretty much the same monster, the worse one would be the one who was more successful, and Stalin's bodycount takes it hands down.

What about it?

Well it depends on if it's an actual African Swallow or a miss-identified European Swallow and whether or not it's laden or not with a coconut.

What does that have to with Chinese shooting at it?

Forgive my ignorance, but what is a 'tankie'?

Someone who is a supporter of the Soviet Union. It was originally used in 1968 to describe those who defended the Soviet use of tanks to crush Czechoslovakia; hence "tankie".

What do you call someone who only defends Yugoslavia, Cuba, or Vietnam?

This is literally asking "Which is worse: getting stung by a thousand bees, or getting stung from a thousand wasps?"

I'm putting my money on the wasps.

[Tombradya]

Hitler. The mass killings were intentional and the number of deaths would be far larger had he and Germany won.

But also Stalin, because his paranoia brought death upon millions and millions. Though, it was for a good cause: the modernisation of Russia in a shorter period of time than what the Romanovs or anyone else would of allowed.
I am against Stalin and his way of doing things. But the sacrifice was mostly for a good cause.

Never knew modernization had a blood price.

Ironically, the Soviet Union and its peoples might have been wiped out without Stalin's brutal industrialization program, considering Nazi Germany's post-victory genocide plans which would have made Genghis Khan look meek by comparison.

[Calladan]

I always kind of assumed it was slang for a Tank Top, but I think I am probably wrong.

Cause tank tops are COOL!!!!

I live in Kentucky. Tank tops are not cool.

You are wrong. Tank Tops are cool everywhere. Except possibly in places where your nipples would freeze off. But even there you can wear a t-shirt.

[Hydesland]

Statler.

[Calladan]

Statler.

Waldorf!!!

[Kenmoria]

Why is there no Mao option. He killed over three times as many as Stalin!

[Seangoli]

Why is there no Mao option. He killed over three times as many as Stalin!

Thus proving my point that at some point the mountains of shit are so large that there really isnt any point in comparing them. I feel Hitler gets the worst rap in the west due to the exposure of his inhumanity, coupled with thw fact that those targetted were done so for an arbitrary reason. Equallu, I gwel those saying he didnt kill as many people fail to realize that the only reason that is true is necause qe stopped it from happening. You dont reall1u get points for that. He most certainly would have reached the body counts of Stalin and Mao if he had his way.

That said, once you get to "orchestrated the death of tens of millions of innocents", there really isnt any point in comparing numbers to prove who is worse.

[Tombradya]

Why is there no Mao option. He killed over three times as many as Stalin!

Caused 2-3 times as many deaths as Stalin via famines that were the result of ill conceived government policies.

Though the number of people that were intentionally killed was likely much lower for Mao than it was for Stalin, and Stalin's in turn lower than Hitler.

Doesn't make either Stalin or Mao nice guys, though.

[Sovaal]

I live in Kentucky. Tank tops are not cool.

You are wrong. Tank Tops are cool everywhere. Except possibly in places where your nipples would freeze off. But even there you can wear a t-shirt.

Well they're not cool when the person wearing them is the reason they're called wife beaters.

Statler.

And now I figured out who Big Brother is.

[Summertimequestionswine]

Watching all the whiny lefty and righties made me think. In their own way each side is almost entirely wrong both the skinheads and antifa sjws none of these groups or productive or helping improve society. Then I thought you know they're just like? Every major figure of their political ideologies. So with that being said. Which brutal dictator was worse. The criteria is how they were professionally, personally and ethic/morally. The men examined are Adolf Hitler and Joseph Stalin

Please sir don't send me to the SJW gulags...

[Nexus of All Realities]

Why is there no Mao option. He killed over three times as many as Stalin!

He's still the Left's darling

[Vassenor]

Why is there no Mao option. He killed over three times as many as Stalin!

He's still the Left's darling

[citation needed]

[Calladan]

Why is there no "God" option? Given the number of earthquakes, plagues, floods, tidal waves and other natural disasters he/she/it has caused I would've thought "God" in all his/her/its many forms would have been responsible for far more deaths than Hitler, Stalin, Mao or any other lunatic dictator. And if you include The Flood, wherein he/she/it wiped out the entire population of the earth, I am pretty sure that counts as the largest genocide in history.

So personally I am offended that I cannot vote for the biggest mass murderer in the history of history.

[Nexus of All Realities]

Why is there no "God" option? Given the number of earthquakes, plagues, floods, tidal waves and other natural disasters he/she/it has caused I would've thought "God" in all his/her/its many forms would have been responsible for far more deaths than Hitler, Stalin, Mao or any other lunatic dictator. And if you include The Flood, wherein he/she/it wiped out the entire population of the earth, I am pretty sure that counts as the largest genocide in history.

So personally I am offended that I cannot vote for the biggest mass murderer in the history of history.

Nah, I think god is mostly indifferent. It doesn't cause or prevent anything. We're on our own.

[Seangoli]

Why is there no Mao option. He killed over three times as many as Stalin!

He's still the Left's darling

Hardly. Its just that nobody really knows much about Mao and the rise of communism in China, as it had very little direct impact on amything in the West. Thus they dont care

[Wysten]

Why is there no "God" option? Given the number of earthquakes, plagues, floods, tidal waves and other natural disasters he/she/it has caused I would've thought "God" in all his/her/its many forms would have been responsible for far more deaths than Hitler, Stalin, Mao or any other lunatic dictator. And if you include The Flood, wherein he/she/it wiped out the entire population of the earth, I am pretty sure that counts as the largest genocide in history.

So personally I am offended that I cannot vote for the biggest mass murderer in the history of history.

Hello I am mister militant atheist here I would to make a snide comment about religion even though that has nothing to do with the current topic.

[Tokora]

Why is there no "God" option? Given the number of earthquakes, plagues, floods, tidal waves and other natural disasters he/she/it has caused I would've thought "God" in all his/her/its many forms would have been responsible for far more deaths than Hitler, Stalin, Mao or any other lunatic dictator. And if you include The Flood, wherein he/she/it wiped out the entire population of the earth, I am pretty sure that counts as the largest genocide in history.

So personally I am offended that I cannot vote for the biggest mass murderer in the history of history.

If we're going into religion I think what actually happened is that after the flood God decided to let the Earth act on its own with natural disasters being a completely natural result of plate tectonics since then. Mind you this is from Christian perspective (and even then from a view that is perfectly fine with mixing religion and science so not exactly mainstream) so I couldn't tell you much about Allah or Buddha. Since this a thread about mortal world leaders I suggest you go to one of the religious threads or start your own.