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by Vassenor » Thu Aug 24, 2017 1:09 pm
by Ifreann » Thu Aug 24, 2017 1:11 pm
Even without the baggage on the flag, answer me this: How many foreign nations get to have their flags flying inside a US courtroom?
by Nexus of All Realities » Thu Aug 24, 2017 3:50 pm
by Salus Maior » Thu Aug 24, 2017 3:52 pm
by Salus Maior » Thu Aug 24, 2017 3:52 pm
by Nexus of All Realities » Thu Aug 24, 2017 4:05 pm
by UCE Watchdog of the Puppets » Thu Aug 24, 2017 4:13 pm
by The Remote Islands » Fri Sep 01, 2017 6:54 pm
Vassenor wrote:And now apparently there is a movement in SC to get CSA flags flying in every courtroom.
Even without the baggage on the flag, answer me this: How many foreign nations get to have their flags flying inside a US courtroom?
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by Krasny-Volny » Fri Sep 01, 2017 7:51 pm
Vivida Vis Animi wrote:San Lumen wrote:History should never be tossed.
Considering a good lot of them were placed simply to intimidate black people I think it's safe to say that this part of history in particular doesn't need to be preserved to its fullest extent. Besides, you don't need to save every last statue (especially when they were produced en masse) to tell the story of the South, slavery, Jim Crow, Civil Rights movement, etc.
by USS Monitor » Sat Sep 02, 2017 2:16 am
by Vassenor » Sat Sep 02, 2017 2:18 am
The Remote Islands wrote:Vassenor wrote:And now apparently there is a movement in SC to get CSA flags flying in every courtroom.
Even without the baggage on the flag, answer me this: How many foreign nations get to have their flags flying inside a US courtroom?
Foreign language classes would likely have French flags for French, Spanish/Mexican flags for Spanish, etc. If these guys really need relief for their Confedeboner, they should try and get the school boards to recognize Southern American English as a separate language.
Which won't happen, but don't tell them that.
by USS Monitor » Sat Sep 02, 2017 2:18 am
Krasny-Volny wrote:Vivida Vis Animi wrote:Considering a good lot of them were placed simply to intimidate black people I think it's safe to say that this part of history in particular doesn't need to be preserved to its fullest extent. Besides, you don't need to save every last statue (especially when they were produced en masse) to tell the story of the South, slavery, Jim Crow, Civil Rights movement, etc.
There's a Confederate statue in the town I live in that includes the names of the people who died from the town during the Civil War. I think it's more a memorial to the dead than an act of intimidation against black people (the county is majority Native American and racially mixed rather than white or black BTW).
I think the statues erected as memorials to the dead in small towns like mine where a lot of the locals are descended from these soldiers is acceptable. But in a big city like Baltimore without the same explicit local connotations they do seem more inappropriate.
by Thermodolia » Sat Sep 02, 2017 6:27 am
Krasny-Volny wrote:Vivida Vis Animi wrote:Considering a good lot of them were placed simply to intimidate black people I think it's safe to say that this part of history in particular doesn't need to be preserved to its fullest extent. Besides, you don't need to save every last statue (especially when they were produced en masse) to tell the story of the South, slavery, Jim Crow, Civil Rights movement, etc.
There's a Confederate statue in the town I live in that includes the names of the people who died from the town during the Civil War. I think it's more a memorial to the dead than an act of intimidation against black people (the county is majority Native American and racially mixed rather than white or black BTW).
I think the statues erected as memorials to the dead in small towns like mine where a lot of the locals are descended from these soldiers is acceptable. But in a big city like Baltimore without the same explicit local connotations they do seem more inappropriate.
by Vassenor » Sat Sep 02, 2017 6:44 am
Thermodolia wrote:Krasny-Volny wrote:
There's a Confederate statue in the town I live in that includes the names of the people who died from the town during the Civil War. I think it's more a memorial to the dead than an act of intimidation against black people (the county is majority Native American and racially mixed rather than white or black BTW).
I think the statues erected as memorials to the dead in small towns like mine where a lot of the locals are descended from these soldiers is acceptable. But in a big city like Baltimore without the same explicit local connotations they do seem more inappropriate.
Memorials to war dead should not be messed with. Only the statues of the confederate leadership should come down and they should remain intact. If a monument cannot be safely removed without severely damaging it, it should stay.
by Genivaria » Sat Sep 02, 2017 6:54 am
The Remote Islands wrote:Vassenor wrote:And now apparently there is a movement in SC to get CSA flags flying in every courtroom.
Even without the baggage on the flag, answer me this: How many foreign nations get to have their flags flying inside a US courtroom?
Foreign language classes would likely have French flags for French, Spanish/Mexican flags for Spanish, etc. If these guys really need relief for their Confedeboner, they should try and get the school boards to recognize Southern American English as a separate language.
Which won't happen, but don't tell them that.
by Genivaria » Sat Sep 02, 2017 6:56 am
by Thermodolia » Sat Sep 02, 2017 7:30 am
Vassenor wrote:Thermodolia wrote:Memorials to war dead should not be messed with. Only the statues of the confederate leadership should come down and they should remain intact. If a monument cannot be safely removed without severely damaging it, it should stay.
What about moving memorials to the places where the individuals listed are actually interred? (If possible)
by Thermodolia » Sat Sep 02, 2017 7:31 am
Genivaria wrote:Nexus of All Realities wrote:
This is why separatist movements everywhere should be allowed to succeed and secede, cultural clashes can end.
In which case if Texas decided to leave the US as a loyal American I would be obligated to make war upon the traitors in the Texan government.
Also is removing me from my country without my permission considering kidnapping?
by Nexus of All Realities » Sat Sep 02, 2017 10:43 am
Genivaria wrote:Nexus of All Realities wrote:
This is why separatist movements everywhere should be allowed to succeed and secede, cultural clashes can end.
In which case if Texas decided to leave the US as a loyal American I would be obligated to make war upon the traitors in the Texan government.
Also is removing me from my country without my permission considering kidnapping?
by Krasny-Volny » Sat Sep 02, 2017 8:52 pm
Vassenor wrote:Thermodolia wrote:Memorials to war dead should not be messed with. Only the statues of the confederate leadership should come down and they should remain intact. If a monument cannot be safely removed without severely damaging it, it should stay.
What about moving memorials to the places where the individuals listed are actually interred? (If possible)
by Greater Sahul » Sat Sep 02, 2017 8:58 pm
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