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by Imperium Anglorum » Thu Aug 17, 2017 1:54 pm
by Tzorsland » Thu Aug 17, 2017 2:26 pm
Imperium Anglorum wrote:I'm pretty sure that UDP packets aren't 'simultaneously interconnected'. They're just sent. But that's just a nitpick.
by Nessuna-Arma » Thu Aug 17, 2017 6:34 pm
by Transtemporal Shifts » Thu Aug 17, 2017 6:54 pm
by Templar Republic » Fri Aug 18, 2017 12:54 am
by Draconae » Fri Aug 18, 2017 4:29 pm
Auralia wrote:
- Defines "the internet", for the purposes of this resolution, as any publicly accessible system of interconnected telecommunications networks using a packet-switched, end-to-end protocol to communicate between endpoints;
Auralia wrote:Further defines "internet service provider" as a business or public entity that provides access to the internet to residential, business, or mobile consumers in exchange for compensation,
Auralia wrote:Declares that member nations must require internet service providers to:
- allow authorized users of their network to access and use the legal internet content, applications and services of their choice within the bandwidth limits and quality of service of their service plan,
- allow authorized users of their network to connect to the internet using a legal device of their choice,
- clearly inform authorized users of their network of any discrimination between legal internet content, applications and services on their network, and
- refrain from unjust discrimination between legal internet content, and applications and services on their network, including but not limited to discrimination that has a substantial anti-competitive effect;
Further declares that member nations have the right to determine for themselves whether to adopt more restrictive network neutrality regulations, within the confines of this and previous World Assembly resolutions;
Auralia wrote:Draconae wrote:"Who determines what is unjust? The ISP? And if the ISP decides that increasing its profits is just, what then? The WA nation? And if the WA nation declines to regulate, what then?"
The World Assembly member state decides what is unjust, with the understanding that "discrimination that has a substantial anti-competitive effect" should be considered unjust. Therefore, the member state must, at a minimum, intervene in cases where there is discrimination that has a substantial anti-competitive effect.
by Nessuna-Arma » Sat Aug 19, 2017 6:26 am
by Fauxia » Sat Aug 19, 2017 5:14 pm
I don't think social justice is acceptable for the old one. That said, free trade??? I might think human rights. The free trade category is supposed to deal with international free trade.Nessuna-Arma wrote:Can you explain why this is Free Trade? The resolution it's to replace is Social Justice.
by Imperium Anglorum » Sat Aug 19, 2017 5:18 pm
by Bitely » Sat Aug 19, 2017 5:28 pm
Further defines "internet service provider" as a business or public entity that provides access to the internet to residential, business, or mobile consumers in exchange for compensation,
by Excidium Planetis » Sat Aug 19, 2017 10:00 pm
Bitely wrote:2nd Claus:Further defines "internet service provider" as a business or public entity that provides access to the internet to residential, business, or mobile consumers in exchange for compensation,
So if a service provider doesn't receive compensation for providing Internet access then this proposal wouldn't apply to them?
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by Nessuna-Arma » Sun Aug 20, 2017 11:54 am
Excidium Planetis wrote:Bitely wrote:2nd Claus:
So if a service provider doesn't receive compensation for providing Internet access then this proposal wouldn't apply to them?
"Indeed." Ambassador Evander Blackbourne replies. "This is a surprisingly intelligent observation from an Ambassador I have heard nothing but bad things about."
by Qlerb » Mon Aug 21, 2017 7:16 am
Nessuna-Arma wrote:Excuse me. I know I'm new here, but I have a question. In #2 you define "internet service provider" as an entity that provides access "for compensation". What if a nation provides free internet to all its citizens and there is no compensation? Does the entire law not affect that nation?
Bitely wrote:2nd Claus:Further defines "internet service provider" as a business or public entity that provides access to the internet to residential, business, or mobile consumers in exchange for compensation,
So if a service provider doesn't receive compensation for providing Internet access then this proposal wouldn't apply to them?
by Draconae » Mon Aug 21, 2017 3:14 pm
Qlerb wrote:Nessuna-Arma wrote:Excuse me. I know I'm new here, but I have a question. In #2 you define "internet service provider" as an entity that provides access "for compensation". What if a nation provides free internet to all its citizens and there is no compensation? Does the entire law not affect that nation?Bitely wrote:2nd Claus:
So if a service provider doesn't receive compensation for providing Internet access then this proposal wouldn't apply to them?
Qlerb offers free internet to all citizens as a subsidized public utility, run by the government. If this resolution were to pass as-is, that would require the dismantling of our current system, which our citizens enjoy, into one where companies must be created and citizens forced to pay. Unless this is changed, we will be wholeheartedly campaigning against it.
We understand the desire to help create a just and fair system, while trying to eliminate or regulate unfair, harmful, or deadly elements, but this particular clause strikes me as worrysome.
by Wallenburg » Mon Aug 21, 2017 3:35 pm
Nessuna-Arma wrote:Excuse me. I know I'm new here, but I have a question. In #2 you define "internet service provider" as an entity that provides access "for compensation". What if a nation provides free internet to all its citizens and there is no compensation? Does the entire law not affect that nation?
by Draconae » Mon Aug 21, 2017 4:18 pm
Wallenburg wrote:Nessuna-Arma wrote:Excuse me. I know I'm new here, but I have a question. In #2 you define "internet service provider" as an entity that provides access "for compensation". What if a nation provides free internet to all its citizens and there is no compensation? Does the entire law not affect that nation?
Taxes might be considered compensation.
by Nessuna-Arma » Tue Aug 22, 2017 4:06 am
Wallenburg wrote:Nessuna-Arma wrote:Excuse me. I know I'm new here, but I have a question. In #2 you define "internet service provider" as an entity that provides access "for compensation". What if a nation provides free internet to all its citizens and there is no compensation? Does the entire law not affect that nation?
Taxes might be considered compensation.
by Bitely » Tue Aug 22, 2017 4:10 am
by Bananaistan » Tue Aug 22, 2017 4:20 am
Qlerb wrote:Nessuna-Arma wrote:Excuse me. I know I'm new here, but I have a question. In #2 you define "internet service provider" as an entity that provides access "for compensation". What if a nation provides free internet to all its citizens and there is no compensation? Does the entire law not affect that nation?Bitely wrote:2nd Claus:
So if a service provider doesn't receive compensation for providing Internet access then this proposal wouldn't apply to them?
Qlerb offers free internet to all citizens as a subsidized public utility, run by the government. If this resolution were to pass as-is, that would require the dismantling of our current system, which our citizens enjoy, into one where companies must be created and citizens forced to pay. Unless this is changed, we will be wholeheartedly campaigning against it.
We understand the desire to help create a just and fair system, while trying to eliminate or regulate unfair, harmful, or deadly elements, but this particular clause strikes me as worrysome.
by Nessuna-Arma » Tue Aug 22, 2017 4:23 am
by Bitely » Tue Aug 22, 2017 4:29 am
Nessuna-Arma wrote:Bitely wrote:That's a major stretch. Besides what if a company sells Tv service and provides Internet as an added free service?
"You're talking about a company. That receives compensation for its services. I'm talking about a nation where internet is free. Do you not see the obvious differences?"
by Nessuna-Arma » Tue Aug 22, 2017 4:45 am
by Wallenburg » Tue Aug 22, 2017 1:18 pm
Bitely wrote:Nessuna-Arma wrote:"You're talking about a company. That receives compensation for its services. I'm talking about a nation where internet is free. Do you not see the obvious differences?"
Yes. I agree with you on that. But, what I'm adding is what if a company doesn't technically get compensated for the internet service and they receive their founding from another source such as TV service or newspapers.
by Fauxia » Thu Aug 31, 2017 6:59 pm
Well, you should probably hurry up with it, it's been a while since the repeal, and most voted for on the idea that it would be replaced sooner rather than later.Auralia wrote:((OOC: Haven't forgotten about this! Further comments coming shortly.))
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