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Was the Reformation a good thing?

1 - Yes.
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2 - Neutral.
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3 - No.
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Conserative Morality
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Postby Conserative Morality » Mon Aug 21, 2017 6:29 pm

The East Marches II wrote:>the Irish gave us a reckless general with an ego complex and a vainglorious fool who got us into disaster twice
>the Irish gave us a corrupt President, a President soft on communism and Nixon (I didn't feel a meme was necessary, just his name)
>the Irish were worst soldiers and the best were the Midwesterners with the Iron Brigade

Nah m8. Take the Hibernian out of America and we can have our land back.

>> not praising a man who advocated nuking China

T-TEM? I-is that still you in there?

Also, Grant wasn't corrupt, and his (admittedly corrupt) administration is often maligned by old anti-Reconstructionist views of history.

"Soft on Communism"

If invading NK and running the Berlin Blockade is soft on Communism, I'd hate to see hard on it.

The New Englanders were the worst, followed shortly by the Southerners, since they clearly lost. Dat Black Hat Brigade I'll give you, though.
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Postby The East Marches II » Mon Aug 21, 2017 6:32 pm

Conserative Morality wrote:
The East Marches II wrote:>the Irish gave us a reckless general with an ego complex and a vainglorious fool who got us into disaster twice
>the Irish gave us a corrupt President, a President soft on communism and Nixon (I didn't feel a meme was necessary, just his name)
>the Irish were worst soldiers and the best were the Midwesterners with the Iron Brigade

Nah m8. Take the Hibernian out of America and we can have our land back.

>> not praising a man who advocated nuking China

T-TEM? I-is that still you in there?

Also, Grant wasn't corrupt, and his (admittedly corrupt) administration is often maligned by old anti-Reconstructionist views of history.

"Soft on Communism"

If invading NK and running the Berlin Blockade is soft on Communism, I'd hate to see hard on it.

The New Englanders were the worst, followed shortly by the Southerners, since they clearly lost. Dat Black Hat Brigade I'll give you, though.


>Ignoring that the Red Chinese were going to get involved

I love a man who wants to nuke China but one who lets information fit his theory right than fitting his theory to information is no friend of mine.

>Truman
>Hard on Communism

We should have nuke the Soviets while we were the only ones with the bomb. He was too soft on Communism for my tastes. I'm at like Curtis Lemay levels of how to deal with the Reds.

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Postby HMS Queen Elizabeth » Mon Aug 21, 2017 6:34 pm

Taihei Tengoku wrote:The antebellum Republic died at Fort Sumter. "Damage" implies a certain telos to it all, which didn't really exist at the time.

The US constitution (small c) has died a number of times, and that probably wasn't the first. It's surprising how little this has been noticed.
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Postby Sanctissima » Mon Aug 21, 2017 6:35 pm

The East Marches II wrote:
Conserative Morality wrote:>> the Irish gave us Patton and McArthur
>> the Irish gave us Grant, TR, Truman, and Nixon
>> the Irish served with honor in the armies of the Union

Nah m80. Take the Catholic out of the Hibernian and he's as good as an American. =^)


>the Irish gave us a reckless general with an ego complex and a vainglorious fool who got us into disaster twice
>the Irish gave us a corrupt President, a President soft on communism and Nixon (I didn't feel a meme was necessary, just his name)
>the Irish were worst soldiers and the best were the Midwesterners with the Iron Brigade

Nah m8. Take the Hibernian out of America and we can have our land back.


B-but... they can't lick our Dick. :(

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Come one TEM, don't turn your back of Tricky Dicky.

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Postby The East Marches II » Mon Aug 21, 2017 6:36 pm

Sanctissima wrote:
The East Marches II wrote:
>the Irish gave us a reckless general with an ego complex and a vainglorious fool who got us into disaster twice
>the Irish gave us a corrupt President, a President soft on communism and Nixon (I didn't feel a meme was necessary, just his name)
>the Irish were worst soldiers and the best were the Midwesterners with the Iron Brigade

Nah m8. Take the Hibernian out of America and we can have our land back.


B-but... they can't lick our Dick. :(

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Come one TEM, don't turn your back of Tricky Dicky.


B-but he sabotaged muh constitution

He gets some redemption for the whole madman idea but thats about it.

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Postby Conserative Morality » Mon Aug 21, 2017 6:37 pm

The East Marches II wrote:>Ignoring that the Red Chinese were going to get involved

I love a man who wants to nuke China but one who lets information fit his theory right than fitting his theory to information is no friend of mine.

You love him, but you're not his friend?

He's either your son or your lover. GOT ANY CONFESSIONS TO MAKE, TEM?
>Truman
>Hard on Communism

We should have nuke the Soviets while we were the only ones with the bomb. He was too soft on Communism for my tastes. I'm at like Curtis Lemay levels of how to deal with the Reds.

Look, our way, we made East Euroland love us and hate them. If we were dropping nukes, it'd be the other way around. Gotta play the long game, my man. Freedom can't be beaten. =^)
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Postby Conserative Morality » Mon Aug 21, 2017 6:39 pm

The East Marches II wrote:B-but he sabotaged muh constitution

He gets some redemption for the whole madman idea but thats about it.

Nixon is the perfect example of an incredibly competent man who is nonetheless someone who should not be let within ten miles of the job.

Also, tfw negative income tax could've happened under his regime administration. :(
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Postby Taihei Tengoku » Mon Aug 21, 2017 6:41 pm

HMS Queen Elizabeth wrote:
Taihei Tengoku wrote:The antebellum Republic died at Fort Sumter. "Damage" implies a certain telos to it all, which didn't really exist at the time.

The US constitution (small c) has died a number of times, and that probably wasn't the first. It's surprising how little this has been noticed.

True, the United States is probably on its fourth or fifth Republic by now.
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Postby Sanctissima » Mon Aug 21, 2017 6:42 pm

The East Marches II wrote:
Sanctissima wrote:
B-but... they can't lick our Dick. :(

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Come one TEM, don't turn your back of Tricky Dicky.


B-but he sabotaged muh constitution

He gets some redemption for the whole madman idea but thats about it.


He... interpreted it in a more... abstract context.

Watergate was merely a part of necessary anti-Communist measures. Don't be silly TEM, Tricky Dicky would never do anything illegal.

*burns White House tapes inconspicuously*

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Postby Conserative Morality » Mon Aug 21, 2017 6:42 pm

Taihei Tengoku wrote:True, the United States is probably on its fourth or fifth Republic by now.

Out the Republic is whole and inviolable I won't hear your goddamn foreign lies
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Postby Hakons » Mon Aug 21, 2017 6:49 pm

HMS Queen Elizabeth wrote:
Taihei Tengoku wrote:The antebellum Republic died at Fort Sumter. "Damage" implies a certain telos to it all, which didn't really exist at the time.

The US constitution (small c) has died a number of times, and that probably wasn't the first. It's surprising how little this has been noticed.


The Constitution is still going strong. How's that Brittish Empire?
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Postby The East Marches II » Mon Aug 21, 2017 6:50 pm

Conserative Morality wrote:You love him, but you're not his friend?

He's either your son or your lover. GOT ANY CONFESSIONS TO MAKE, TEM?


H-he is my wayward son I sent back in time to save us from Communism. I failed.

Conserative Morality wrote:>Truman
>Hard on Communism

We should have nuke the Soviets while we were the only ones with the bomb. He was too soft on Communism for my tastes. I'm at like Curtis Lemay levels of how to deal with the Reds.

Look, our way, we made East Euroland love us and hate them. If we were dropping nukes, it'd be the other way around. Gotta play the long game, my man. Freedom can't be beaten. =^)[/quote]

>Not just exterminating your foes, enslaving the survivors and settling the land later

Oh boy, we have a Greek lover everyone.

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Postby Taihei Tengoku » Mon Aug 21, 2017 6:51 pm

Conserative Morality wrote:
Taihei Tengoku wrote:True, the United States is probably on its fourth or fifth Republic by now.

Out the Republic is whole and inviolable I won't hear your goddamn foreign lies

That in itself is an innovation of the Civil War--perhaps for the better but an innovation nonetheless.

Hakons wrote:
HMS Queen Elizabeth wrote:The US constitution (small c) has died a number of times, and that probably wasn't the first. It's surprising how little this has been noticed.


The Constitution is still going strong. How's that Brittish Empire?

You missed the point.
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Postby Conserative Morality » Mon Aug 21, 2017 6:52 pm

The East Marches II wrote:>Not just exterminating your foes, enslaving the survivors and settling the land later

Oh boy, we have a Greek lover everyone.

>> not setting up client states and alliances before absorbing provinces into the empire under the guise of friendship and security with a looming legion in the background

Looks like we have some eastern despot poking their nose into good, honest, Roman affairs again. Pontic, maybe?
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Postby The East Marches II » Mon Aug 21, 2017 6:52 pm

Conserative Morality wrote:
Taihei Tengoku wrote:True, the United States is probably on its fourth or fifth Republic by now.

Out the Republic is whole and inviolable I won't hear your goddamn foreign lies


^This right here

Conserative Morality wrote:
The East Marches II wrote:B-but he sabotaged muh constitution

He gets some redemption for the whole madman idea but thats about it.

Nixon is the perfect example of an incredibly competent man who is nonetheless someone who should not be let within ten miles of the job.

Also, tfw negative income tax could've happened under his regime administration. :(


Did he really have a proposal for that? That is interesting.

Sanctissima wrote:
The East Marches II wrote:
B-but he sabotaged muh constitution

He gets some redemption for the whole madman idea but thats about it.


He... interpreted it in a more... abstract context.

Watergate was merely a part of necessary anti-Communist measures. Don't be silly TEM, Tricky Dicky would never do anything illegal.

*burns White House tapes inconspicuously*


Of course, I can take your word on the matter. What was I thinking?

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Postby The East Marches II » Mon Aug 21, 2017 6:55 pm

Conserative Morality wrote:
The East Marches II wrote:>Not just exterminating your foes, enslaving the survivors and settling the land later

Oh boy, we have a Greek lover everyone.

>> not setting up client states and alliances before absorbing provinces into the empire under the guise of friendship and security with a looming legion in the background

Looks like we have some eastern despot poking their nose into good, honest, Roman affairs again. Pontic, maybe?


I've been found out!

Torch the Latins, Mithridatic Wars now!

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Postby Hakons » Mon Aug 21, 2017 6:56 pm

Conserative Morality wrote:
The East Marches II wrote:>Not just exterminating your foes, enslaving the survivors and settling the land later

Oh boy, we have a Greek lover everyone.

>> not setting up client states and alliances before absorbing provinces into the empire under the guise of friendship and security with a looming legion in the background

Looks like we have some eastern despot poking their nose into good, honest, Roman affairs again. Pontic, maybe?


Pffttt... or you could shove your enemies off "their" land and sell plots to reduce the debt and create a spirit of opportunity.
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Postby Conserative Morality » Mon Aug 21, 2017 6:57 pm

The East Marches II wrote:Did he really have a proposal for that? That is interesting.

Look up FAP.

...

Okay, maybe don't do that.
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Postby HMS Queen Elizabeth » Mon Aug 21, 2017 6:58 pm

Hakons wrote:
HMS Queen Elizabeth wrote:The US constitution (small c) has died a number of times, and that probably wasn't the first. It's surprising how little this has been noticed.


The Constitution is still going strong. How's that Brittish Empire?

Sun still hasn't set.
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Postby Hakons » Mon Aug 21, 2017 6:58 pm

Taihei Tengoku wrote:You missed the point.


Freedom is a perfect circle with infinite points.
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Postby Northern Davincia » Mon Aug 21, 2017 6:59 pm

Conserative Morality wrote:
The East Marches II wrote:Did he really have a proposal for that? That is interesting.

Look up FAP.

...

Okay, maybe don't do that.

It's like the NAP but better.
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Postby Conserative Morality » Mon Aug 21, 2017 6:59 pm

The East Marches II wrote:I've been found out!

Torch the Latins, Mithridatic Wars now!

Maybe if you take a little Latin at a time you'll become immune to it and we won't be able to kill you. =^)
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Postby Conserative Morality » Mon Aug 21, 2017 7:00 pm

HMS Queen Elizabeth wrote:
Hakons wrote:
The Constitution is still going strong. How's that Brittish Empire?

Sun still hasn't set.

You should probably see a doctor about that.
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Postby Conserative Morality » Mon Aug 21, 2017 7:02 pm

Hakons wrote:Pffttt... or you could shove your enemies off "their" land and sell plots to reduce the debt and create a spirit of opportunity.

100% onboard so long as we only take land from our enemies and not people who are trying to join our great Union.

C I V I L I Z E D
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Postby The East Marches II » Mon Aug 21, 2017 7:03 pm

Conserative Morality wrote:
The East Marches II wrote:I've been found out!

Torch the Latins, Mithridatic Wars now!

Maybe if you take a little Latin at a time you'll become immune to it and we won't be able to kill you. =^)


>tfw his strategy of fighting till Roman treachery destroyed them could have worked but his less treacherous side did him in

He is a fascinating character, too bad Sulla crushed his proper army. Mithridates deserved it for trusting *pukes* Greeks.

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