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Postby East Kerbin » Sat Aug 19, 2017 11:40 am

Canton Empire wrote:
East Kerbin wrote:Judging by the current situation and statistics, there are multiple possible outcomes:

  • Funakdelia just banjects anybody who is close to his endorsement count, but not part of the government.
  • The Resistance succeeds in taking the delegacy, with a 40% possibility of Lazarus turning into a disaster full of raiding due to government collapse.
  • Funkadelia regains support from Lazarus, creating a larger endorsement gap.
  • Funkadelia receives foreign support.
  • Other things.

The first part isn't true. Funk and co. literally can't ban those closet to him. He wasted a ton of influence on Amerion and others


You never know what Lazarus will become in the future, if it lasts long enough to see it.

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Postby East Kerbin » Sat Aug 19, 2017 11:47 am

This week, Funkadelia has lost 16 votes, and Loftegen has gained 3.

If Funkadelia completely pauses in terms of endorsements, and 3 stays the amount of endorsements Loftegen earns per week, It will take about 5 months to seize the delegacy.

If Loftegen completely pauses in terms of endorsements, and 16 stays the amount of endorsements Funkadelia loses per week, it will take about 1 month to seize the delegacy.

If nothing pauses, but Loftegen continues to earn 3 endorsements/week, and Funkadelia continues to lose 16 endorsements/week, Loftegen will seize the delegacy in around 1 month.

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Postby Unibot III » Sat Aug 19, 2017 12:03 pm

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Ikania wrote:-snip-


So you admit this article is just a pure fabrication and your only defense is "but you guys are the real liars!"?


Did you just respond to an accusation of whataboutism with "What about...?"

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Postby East Kerbin » Sat Aug 19, 2017 12:05 pm

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Killer Kitty wrote:
So you admit this article is just a pure fabrication and your only defense is "but you guys are the real liars!"?


Did you just respond to an accusation of whataboutism with "What about...?"

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Wait hold on. Can you create an entire study on this situation. Seriously, you are like the ultimate NS journalist.

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Postby Lands of Anarchy » Sat Aug 19, 2017 12:20 pm

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The resistance is supporting Loftegen, who has 128 endorsements as of this post. Funk currently has 191 as of this post.

Funk started with 265 or so, so he has lost over 70 endorsements, and that isn't accounting those cancelled out by his support. The Resistance is certainly successful.


Success is when the Resistance takes the delegacy. There is no success in achieving nothing.


So winning battles isn't successful, until you win the war? Or is winning battles successful, because it helps you win the war?

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Postby East Kerbin » Sat Aug 19, 2017 1:07 pm

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East Kerbin wrote:
Success is when the Resistance takes the delegacy. There is no success in achieving nothing.


So winning battles isn't successful, until you win the war? Or is winning battles successful, because it helps you win the war?


Confederates won a lot of battles, did they win the Civil War?

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Postby Ikania » Sat Aug 19, 2017 1:13 pm

East Kerbin wrote:
Lands of Anarchy wrote:
So winning battles isn't successful, until you win the war? Or is winning battles successful, because it helps you win the war?


Confederates won a lot of battles, did they win the Civil War?

Is the war over?
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Postby Lands of Anarchy » Sat Aug 19, 2017 1:14 pm

East Kerbin wrote:
Lands of Anarchy wrote:
So winning battles isn't successful, until you win the war? Or is winning battles successful, because it helps you win the war?


Confederates won a lot of battles, did they win the Civil War?


No, because the Union won more battles than them. Here, this isn't the case, as Funk has lost over 1/4 of his endorsements already thanks to The Resistance, and Funk has done nothing to halt the progress of the Resistance.

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Killer Kitty wrote:
So you admit this article is just a pure fabrication and your only defense is "but you guys are the real liars!"?


Did you just respond to an accusation of whataboutism with "What about...?"

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Not like the Resistance hasn't played the 'What about' card plenty of times itself, Unibot. Don't pretend any side has the shinier turd.
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Postby Pentaga Giudici » Sat Aug 19, 2017 5:47 pm

Let's see....

One side is full of most of the previous government, the voters, the artists, and the military.....

And the other side is the top three of a raiding faction, plus their meat-puppets, plus Hydra or whoever is deploying forces now.

While most delegates grow and grow, Funk has dropped something around 40-50 endorsements. By looking at his government, it's using a new constitution voted in by brand new natives or people who are government officials in other regions.

Meanwhile, the other side accuses us of all being defender radicals, when a lot of us don't even R&D at all, and those of us that do are either in the regions military or are mercanaries that work only for people who have our backs.. AKA, Lazarus and Yuno.

Out of all the conflicts I've ever seen, this is the most black and white of them all.
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Postby Ancient Lepala » Sat Aug 19, 2017 6:17 pm

If Funk isn't deposed soon, I'm calling in TITO. I can't stand raiders.
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Postby Tinhampton » Sat Aug 19, 2017 6:32 pm

Ancient Lepala wrote:If Funk isn't deposed soon, I'm calling in TITO. I can't stand raiders.

AFAIK, TITO aren't mercenaries and won't conduct operations that you request unless you join them and request on their private off-site subforum... but I might be wrong. and I digress.
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Postby Kylia Quilor » Sat Aug 19, 2017 6:35 pm

Pentaga Giudici wrote:Let's see....

One side is full of most of the previous government, the voters, the artists, and the military.....

And the other side is the top three of a raiding faction, plus their meat-puppets, plus Hydra or whoever is deploying forces now.

While most delegates grow and grow, Funk has dropped something around 40-50 endorsements. By looking at his government, it's using a new constitution voted in by brand new natives or people who are government officials in other regions.

Meanwhile, the other side accuses us of all being defender radicals, when a lot of us don't even R&D at all, and those of us that do are either in the regions military or are mercanaries that work only for people who have our backs.. AKA, Lazarus and Yuno.

Out of all the conflicts I've ever seen, this is the most black and white of them all.

:rofl:

You have no been in that many conflicts, or seen that many either.
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Postby Pentaga Giudici » Sat Aug 19, 2017 11:26 pm

Name one other conflict that is actually black and white?

Did you actually think one up before you started laughing, or are you just laughing because you are uncomfortable you can't come up with another example?
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Postby Kylia Quilor » Sun Aug 20, 2017 4:00 am

Pentaga Giudici wrote:Name one other conflict that is actually black and white?

Did you actually think one up before you started laughing, or are you just laughing because you are uncomfortable you can't come up with another example?

Let's see:
Milograd's 'Minnowist' Coup of TSP. The Gatesville Coup of Osiris. Sedge's Coup of TSP. The New Lazarus Order coup of Lazarus. Durkadurkistan's coup of the North Pacific (didn't he do that *twice*?).

Shall I go on?
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Postby Killer Kitty » Sun Aug 20, 2017 5:13 am

Kylia Quilor wrote:Durkadurkistan's coup of the North Pacific (didn't he do that *twice*?).


Yup. I'm the one who banned him after the second coup, in fact.

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Postby East Kerbin » Sun Aug 20, 2017 7:52 am

So... where are all the interviews with the government officials?

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Postby Lazarus Free Press (Ancient) » Wed Aug 23, 2017 5:48 pm

"FUNKADELIA IS LOSING," SAYS LONG-TIME NATIVE
This is the second installment of a series of interviews, "Natives Speak Out", we've conducted with native Lazarenes.

See our first installment here.

Uniterra, Lazarus - With some natives feeling reluctant to speak on record about the Gang of Three's regime in Lazarus, fearing retaliation, the Lazarus Free Press has reached out to natives hoping to give them an avenue for them to speak anonymously and share their thoughts on the rogue administration to the rest of NationStates.

1. How long have you been a native resident of Lazarus? Until now, what's been your impression of Lazarus?

Let's see. I've been here so long that I don't remember when I first arrived. I came here deliberately, though, not via resurrection, because I was looking for a region without an endo cap, which Lazarus was at the time. That was back during the time of the Emerald Council, if memory serves.

My impression of Lazarus has been generally positive; you can always find a few jerks wherever you go, but on the whole the people here are quite friendly.

2. In a word, how would you describe the situation facing Lazarus - and why?

Since your question demands a one word answer: tedious. :)

3. What led to your decision to unendorse Funkadelia?

He's acting like a paranoid dictator, and taking actions that in the past he had vehemently denounced when others took them.

4. Were you afraid of retaliation from Funkadelia and the rest of Gang of Three?

Nope. What can they really do? Banject me? Been there, done that. Take away my birthday? Make me work at Curries? :)

5. Are you optimistic that Funkadelia's regime will fall?

They all fall eventually, so yes. Hopefully it's sooner, rather than later, but I'm patient.

6. The whole of NationStates is listening. If you have a final plea for them, this is the time to share. Thanks again.

When I checked today, Funk's endo count was 199. [At the time of the interview, Funkadelia's endorsement count was 199, it has since fallen to 191] It's been falling steadily, as his outsider allies lose interest and move on to other things. All regimes, even dictatorships, depend on the support of their people, and Funk is losing that.

So keep fighting!

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Postby Killer Kitty » Wed Aug 23, 2017 6:06 pm

LOL!

Another faked "scared native" interview from the Revolt. You'd think you could find any actual person to speak to this time around.

Keep posting these, your side being caught lying so openly is priceless.

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Postby Canton Empire » Wed Aug 23, 2017 6:50 pm

Killer Kitty wrote:LOL!

Another faked "scared native" interview from the Revolt. You'd think you could find any actual person to speak to this time around.

Keep posting these, your side being caught lying so openly is priceless.

Proof?
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Postby Altmoras » Wed Aug 23, 2017 6:58 pm

Killer Kitty wrote:LOL!

Another faked "scared native" interview from the Revolt. You'd think you could find any actual person to speak to this time around.

Keep posting these, your side being caught lying so openly is priceless.


That one matches the syntax and what I know about a particular native pretty well actually, can't speak for the first installment.

You should ask Funk to read it, he should be able to figure it out.
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Postby Ikania » Wed Aug 23, 2017 7:09 pm

Killer Kitty wrote:LOL!

Another faked "scared native" interview from the Revolt. You'd think you could find any actual person to speak to this time around.

Keep posting these, your side being caught lying so openly is priceless.

I feel like we should begin holding contests to see who can most perfectly imitate the reaction we all know you'll give for when an anonymous source is cited.

Damned if they stay anonymous, because they'll be accused of being fake news, but damned if they don't, because it's a one-way trip to the banhammer. But it's not like perspective has ever been a really important concept for the Triumvirate.
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Postby Lands of Anarchy » Wed Aug 23, 2017 8:03 pm

I'm confused on why a native that doesn't care about getting banned needs to be anonymous, though.

Also, yeah, why is a "free press" so anti-Funk?

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