Lazarus Free Press: "Funk is losing," says long-time native

[Altheriol]

It's mind-blowing to me that you are still on the NPO's Senate in any capacity. Do you have even a tiny bit of evidence that ~100 of Funkadelia's endorsements are foreign? Even the most fact-free, outlandish member of the "resistance" has only identified ~20 that are accused of being foreign.

Whether you preface a post this ridiculous by saying you aren't speaking for the NPO or not, the fact remains that you are a Senator of the New Pacific Order, and when you post something this absurd it makes the entire NPO look absurd. There is no getting around that with a cursory disclaimer.

Why do I not even wonder that you would pick that up to use it against the NPO once again? We all got it Cormac, you hate the NPO and especially my persona. However, you might have missed the point that I clearly over-exaggerated there, but that must be a foreign concept to you. It is a common tool to completely ridicule actual realities. And the reality of Lazarus as it is, is ridiculous. I do not want to praise Funkadelia, but it might be the factual case that some nations yet again completely ignored game mechanics and thought that some off-site forum post is ensuring their national and regional integrity. No victim blame, they also already payed dearly for this. Nonetheless, it kept the entirety of GP entertained or busy while the people are most likely just waiting for the next episode of game of thrones, as sad this might sound.

Which, to bring the conversation back to something brought up by Cormac earlier on one of the many threads about this, is why I think any declaration of the death of the Resistance is premature. It's summer, so all of the schoolkids are on their summer holidays. There's not much else going on in NationStates right now. The Lazarus crisis, for better or worse, is drawing the clear majority of attention; so everybody already involved has little else to get distracted by, everybody with a dog in the fight has the opportunity to contribute due to the shamelessness of both sides in their willingness to recruit support, and everybody else gets to snipe from the sidelines like I am. There's a lot of inertia behind both sides, simply because - on the surface at least - there isn't anything more interesting going on.

[RiderSyl]

Neph did not write the book on raiding

Can confirm.

[Escade]

Yeah that's what I'm saying is that you've created a myth that has no basis in reality or actions whatsoever. Like seriously? This seems like a ploy to drum up artificial activity or like artificial something. If people are bored, there's better things to do. Like there's this new thing - social events - where you actually like try to build some camaraderie in your community and stuff.

First of all, this isn't Facebook; it's a political simulation game.

I regret to inform you that Facebook is for old people\parents now and like all the fun social stuff has moved onto other better platforms.

Secondly, I'm tired of this pretense that defenders just want to be social, have fun, and don't want to be engaged in all the politics

Quoting from like the Intro to NationStates:

Is it a serious political thing, or just for fun?

You can play it either way. NationStates does have humorous bent, but that's just because politics is naturally funny.

Here's the facts:

There is no propaganda, there is no conspiracy, there is no plotting. Like I place fun high on my list of priorities when playing a game and also understand that different people have a variety of interpretations of fun. Mine's are socially oriented. Here's the thing though - you seem to feel like my talking about "defender fun" is propaganda. Nah bro, it's just that we are actually like having a lit time. Plus chasing gives me some exhilaration points.

I just want to be social and have fun and like engage in politics that are funny or cute. Let's not get heavy man, the world is deep enough.

What it means when defenders say people are taking the game too seriously and we should all just have fun and be social is that we should not resist their politicking with politics of our own, and should instead just hand over our regions to them and go have a festival or something. It's a misdirection tactic designed to distract us from the reality that it's defenders who are engaging in so-called "toxic politics," political smear campaigns, and the subversion of various Feeders and Sinkers in pursuit of their ideological agenda. It's okay for them, but the rest of us should be ashamed.

This is a blatant lie. First defenders are not some monolithic hive mind. We come from different places and do different things.

I'm like brand new to the defending life and spent most of my political NS career on "Friendship and Cooperation" and still am on that theme. The only thing that's changed is really that people who keep you know stabbing me with little thorns end up on my "Do Not Call" list. Cuz' like forgiveness is bliss but avoiding the toxics is also a legit life philosophy.

Also "don't take people's stuff because that kind of kills the mood. Then you just end up with this dry husk of a community that can't get active people and has government members cting and stuff."

Finally, in serious speak - > You have no iota of proof\evidence\facts to support your anti-defender rhetoric. In fact, the only side engaging in any of that toxic blah is actually the side you are supporting. Invalidated, erroneous claims and logical fallacies abound.

Well, let's see, I'm a citizen of Osiris with no governmental role, a mere resident of the West Pacific, and I've been declared persona non grata by Balder. Do you think I'm speaking for any of them? Me neither. I don't need to speak for them to speak about them, and about the coordinated propaganda campaign defenders have undertaken against them over the course of several years. This is, again, just a distraction tactic to evade my points.

Sure, but you seem to have placed the three together as being ideologically the same or on the same side so I was wondering if something was going on behind the scenes. Are these three regions going after defenders as part of some larger plot? I wouldn't know as I'm not a member of any of them (oh snap).

Again, there is no proof that defenders have done any coordination against any of them. What coordination can you show?
Like all three regions are doing whatever it is they're doing. Like, from my perspective no one cares enough to do anything? We got better things to do, music to listen to and dance to. Challenges and like artistic competitions. We create.

You continuously assert that this is about defenders. Can you demonstrate that the resistance, which includes independents, raiders, and people that just plain don't give a damn about alignment, is a defender resistance? Once again, I am asking for anything even remotely tangible, and not your supposition or prediction.

^ When someone says everything you think in such an erudite manner it makes you feel all giddy. Also it hasn't been addressed (sadface).

This (the coup of Lazarus) seems like an actual conspiracy from one side to make defenders the enemies and target them for elimination through purges and such.

I'm not saying it's unacceptable for Feeders or Sinkers to decide to be defender. All I'm saying is they shouldn't expect support from non-defenders.

Which feeders or sinkers are defender? And it's not that shouldn't expect support - it's become "if you are truly independent and do both, or even like even kiss a defender on the cheek - we're going to attack you." The doublespeak truly amazes me. As long as a region is raider or predominately leads raider ops - they're "indie." If they are truly independent (not faux independent with a raider tramp stamp) and engage in both based on the interests of their actually active military members - they are suddenly a threat? WTH?

In fact, what's happened is that several groups and regions have struck against defenders without any instigating reason and with only one goal -> to purge defenders. That's scary and every region should think, "Here's one side that uses force, intimidation, vote importation, election rigging, and couping to force their narrow views on others."

Sounds like people who can't get others to play the game with them or their way prolly bc the aforementioned lack of fun\social stuff. Yeah, it's like to convince people of your ideology you need to do things other than stomp on them with your emo boots.

This is like that teen dystopian book where love is bad and must be suppressed through inoculations. Why so scared of love? Let it flow.

xoxo

[Cormactopia Prime]

The amount of that post that was just fact-free, incoherent babble makes it impossible to respond to, especially at this hour, so I'm not going to.

[United Provinces of Atlantica]

The amount of that post that was just fact-free, incoherent babble makes it impossible to respond to, especially at this hour, so I'm not going to.

"I've given you the response you deserve."

[Unibot III]

The amount of that post that was just fact-free, incoherent babble makes it impossible to respond to, especially at this hour, so I'm not going to.

Don't be so hard on yourself: when it comes to exhausting fact-free incoherent babble, you're not a spent force. There's always time for a comeback.

[The Church of Satan]

They're right Cormac. There's no proof of all these wild ramblings about the big, bad defenders that are "out to get you." We're not a monster hiding under your bed. Of course that doesn't stop people such as yourself from acting like scared children, lol. We're not some all-pervasive force encompassing your daily lives and brainwashing people. We're just people trying to have a good time in our own communities. All that fear mongering is just an excuse to advocate hate. And what does hate do? It spreads like a disease, bringing corruption and betrayal to otherwise peaceful regions. Nobody needs to be purged. We can all have fun if we stop needlessly fabricating "threats" and causing trouble. Something Funk should have learned a long time ago.

[McChimp]

Neph did not write the book on raiding

Can confirm.

I'd like to throw my hat in, please.

[Kylia Quilor]

They're right Cormac. There's no proof of all these wild ramblings about the big, bad defenders that are "out to get you." We're not a monster hiding under your bed. Of course that doesn't stop people such as yourself from acting like scared children, lol. We're not some all-pervasive force encompassing your daily lives and brainwashing people. We're just people trying to have a good time in our own communities. All that fear mongering is just an excuse to advocate hate. And what does hate do? It spreads like a disease, bringing corruption and betrayal to otherwise peaceful regions. Nobody needs to be purged. We can all have fun if we stop needlessly fabricating "threats" and causing trouble. Something Funk should have learned a long time ago.

Wait, if you're not the monster hiding under my bed, then what has been hiding under my bed all these years!?

[Syberis]

Me.

[Roavin]

[Kylia Quilor]

Me.

Well get out! You snore.

[The NAtion OF Froggy]

Roavin, wins the internet with calvin and Hobbes.

Congrats. I love the strip.

Also this stuff has gone quiet has that mean that both sides admit the foolishness this had become?

[RiderSyl]

The silence doesn't validate your position, no.

[Lazarus Free Press (Ancient)]

DECLINING SUPPORT HAS LAZARUS REGIME ON DESPERATE CHARM OFFENSIVE

Uniterra, Lazarus - Although the liberation effort has faced an uphill battle in communicating with residents during the dog days of summer, recent numbers show the endorsement margin between Funkadelia, rogue delegate, and Courlany, longtime native, on a steady descent path: down 20% over this past week.

If the endorsement margin continues to narrow as it has, a conventionally-sized liberation could be expected within two weeks.



That downward trajectory has prompted Funkadelia and the rest of his "Gang of Three" to make a heavy-handed, last ditch PR pitch to residents: presenting the rogue delegacy to residents in a mass telegram as a mere cultural renewal, while also advertising a new cultural festival. He warns natives that unendorsing him will "destabilize the region" and strengthen "the voice of those who are seeking to do Lazarus harm" without addressing the accusations against him.

In contrast to his ongoing suppression of native dissent, Funkadelia's own sanguine and welcoming presence on the Regional Message Board (RMB) appears disingenuous; a public face for an coup d'état that has increasingly proven unwilling to answer for its authoritarian behaviour.

-30-

[Warwick Z Codger]

Gangs should be four or not at all

[Cormactopia Prime]

If the endorsement margin continues to narrow as it has, a conventionally-sized liberation could be expected within two weeks.

I'm also disappointed you've gone with this "Gang of Three" thing when "Triumvirate" would have been much better.

[Ikania]

If the endorsement margin continues to narrow as it has, a conventionally-sized liberation could be expected within two weeks.

I'm also disappointed you've gone with this "Gang of Three" thing when "Triumvirate" would have been much better.

That's what I said but apparently one gang in two years isn't enough

[Altmoras Prime]

Also I'd just like to say that this new "Undead" theme they picked for Laz is pretty weak, 4/10.

[The NAtion OF Froggy]

The silence doesn't validate your position, no.

A nation can dream can't it?

[Unibot III]

If the endorsement margin continues to narrow as it has, a conventionally-sized liberation could be expected within two weeks.

I'm also disappointed you've gone with this "Gang of Three" thing when "Triumvirate" would have been much better.

Promise me you'll eat your hat so I can buy a TRR one for you to eat. Pleaseee. I can order one pronto.

[The Sygian]

It's humorous that the resistance thinks it can get a liberation of any size on their side after Lenlyvit, of course, and now their "Defender of the Realm" Constie's Out-of-Character accusations against Funkadelia and Katie/Ivy's dialect of advocating for Nazism, fascism, and other forms of hate speech on the Lazarus RMB.

At this point, the resistance is pathetic. Someone competent (I know there are a few in there) should take initiative and get rid of the certain individuals making the resistance look so pitiful.

[Canton Empire]

It's humorous that the resistance thinks it can get a liberation of any size on their side after Lenlyvit, of course, and now their "Defender of the Realm" Constie's Out-of-Character accusations against Funkadelia and Katie/Ivy's dialect of advocating for Nazism, fascism, and other forms of hate speech on the Lazarus RMB.

At this point, the resistance is pathetic. Someone competent (I know there are a few in there) should take initiative and get rid of the certain individuals making the resistance look so pitiful.

I'm not Defender of the Realm.


This is funny, considering Funkadelia allowed the The Invaders to support his regime.

[Cormactopia Prime]

How about we stop with the OOC stuff that has no place in this conflict or any other aspect of gameplay? Good God, people.

[The Sygian]

I'm not Defender of the Realm.

My mistake, though you are running unopposed for the position.

This is funny, considering Funkadelia allowed the The Invaders to support his regime.

Oh, they still exist? Regardless, I don't see a single Invader flag deployed in Lazarus, and TI's standing orders are the same they've been for months.
"Order of the Day:
Endorse Rain Delay"