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by United Muscovite Nations » Tue Aug 01, 2017 6:51 pm

by Washington Resistance Army » Tue Aug 01, 2017 6:52 pm

by Steffan » Tue Aug 01, 2017 6:53 pm

by Galloism » Tue Aug 01, 2017 6:53 pm
President Trump told members at his Trump National Bedminster golf club he has spent so much time there recently because "that White House is a real dump," Golf magazine reported Tuesday.
According to the in-depth look at the president and his relationship to golf, Bedminster has become one of Trump's favorite escapes. It served as a "permanent campaign rally site" in the months leading up to the election and Trump has visited the club four times since taking office.
"He has his own cottage adjacent to the pool; it was recently given a secure perimeter by the Secret Service, leading to the inevitable joke that it's the only wall Trump has successfully built," Golf magazine reported. "Chatting with some members before a recent round of golf, he explained his frequent appearances: 'That White House is a real dump.'"
By contrast, people who've played with Trump on his courses say he praises every detail of his club.
"'Is this not the most beautiful asphalt you've ever seen in your life?'" he'll say of an ordinary cart path," Golf reported. "At the turn he'll ask, "'Have you ever had a better burger?'"
Though Trump may take a lot of "floating mulligans" — ignoring a bad shot, or dropping a new ball without taking a penalty — and though he may have a nasty habit of driving his cart onto greens and tee boxes, Golf writes that no president has ever played the sport better.
Trump "clearly loves the game, and even at 71 is easily the best golfer who has ever lived in the White House," the magazine said.

by Washington Resistance Army » Tue Aug 01, 2017 6:54 pm
Steffan wrote:http://www.cnn.com/2017/08/01/politics/2020-primary/index.html
Potential 2020 Republican challengers?

by Steffan » Tue Aug 01, 2017 6:56 pm

by Valrifell » Tue Aug 01, 2017 6:56 pm
Napkiraly wrote:Valrifell wrote:
America giving arms to anyone really hasn't historically worked out. They'll probably end up in the hands of some radical group or another.
And no, not radical in the cool 90's slang way.
Actually it has. America gave weapons to South Korea for the duration of the CW which helped it out. Gave weapons to the Greeks in the Greek Civil War, ensuring the reds would not achieve victory. Gave weapons to various paramilitary organizations across the world, which helped bleed the USSR dry (Afghanistan, Angola, El Savador, Nicaragua).

by The Flutterlands » Tue Aug 01, 2017 6:58 pm
Galloism wrote:Trump thinks the 'White House is a real dump,' report saysPresident Trump told members at his Trump National Bedminster golf club he has spent so much time there recently because "that White House is a real dump," Golf magazine reported Tuesday.
According to the in-depth look at the president and his relationship to golf, Bedminster has become one of Trump's favorite escapes. It served as a "permanent campaign rally site" in the months leading up to the election and Trump has visited the club four times since taking office.
"He has his own cottage adjacent to the pool; it was recently given a secure perimeter by the Secret Service, leading to the inevitable joke that it's the only wall Trump has successfully built," Golf magazine reported. "Chatting with some members before a recent round of golf, he explained his frequent appearances: 'That White House is a real dump.'"
By contrast, people who've played with Trump on his courses say he praises every detail of his club.
"'Is this not the most beautiful asphalt you've ever seen in your life?'" he'll say of an ordinary cart path," Golf reported. "At the turn he'll ask, "'Have you ever had a better burger?'"
Though Trump may take a lot of "floating mulligans" — ignoring a bad shot, or dropping a new ball without taking a penalty — and though he may have a nasty habit of driving his cart onto greens and tee boxes, Golf writes that no president has ever played the sport better.
Trump "clearly loves the game, and even at 71 is easily the best golfer who has ever lived in the White House," the magazine said.

by Valrifell » Tue Aug 01, 2017 6:59 pm

by Geilinor » Tue Aug 01, 2017 6:59 pm

by Washington Resistance Army » Tue Aug 01, 2017 6:59 pm
The Flutterlands wrote:Why is he President again? And is he seriously thinking about making another term?


by United Muscovite Nations » Tue Aug 01, 2017 6:59 pm

by Galloism » Tue Aug 01, 2017 7:00 pm

by Steffan » Tue Aug 01, 2017 7:00 pm
Valrifell wrote:
Oh god please no. Isn't he like one of the most unpopular politicians at the moment? Both within Washington and in the general population?
I mean, putting him anywhere near the presidency just makes me anxious and queasy, but it might secure an easy win?

by Steffan » Tue Aug 01, 2017 7:01 pm

by Washington Resistance Army » Tue Aug 01, 2017 7:01 pm
Galloism wrote:Please excuse me while I borrow a mallet from Wakko to hit you over the head with.

by Valrifell » Tue Aug 01, 2017 7:01 pm

by United Muscovite Nations » Tue Aug 01, 2017 7:02 pm
Washington Resistance Army wrote:Galloism wrote:Please excuse me while I borrow a mallet from Wakko to hit you over the head with.
*laughs in originalist*United Muscovite Nations wrote:The Azov battalion literally crucified someone and then burned him to death.
Man, I'd forgotten about that shit. Have they done anything else crazy since then?

by The East Marches II » Tue Aug 01, 2017 7:03 pm

by Galloism » Tue Aug 01, 2017 7:03 pm
Valrifell wrote:Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Because he won the election.
I personally hope he doesn't run again.
Oh, but he might. People called Clinton tone deaf but I don't think they've seen people try to penetrate the thick fog of intense ego that surrounds Trump at any given moment, he's probably convinced himself the polls are all lies and if he does get primaried out in 2020 by some small miracle, he'll probably just run third party anyway because he thinks he's so loved by the American people.

by Empire of Cats » Tue Aug 01, 2017 7:03 pm
Steffan wrote:Valrifell wrote:
Oh god please no. Isn't he like one of the most unpopular politicians at the moment? Both within Washington and in the general population?
I mean, putting him anywhere near the presidency just makes me anxious and queasy, but it might secure an easy win?
AAARGH!
I'D RATHER HAVE TRUMP FOR 8 YEARS THAN CRUZ!


by Napkiraly » Tue Aug 01, 2017 7:03 pm
Valrifell wrote:Napkiraly wrote:Actually it has. America gave weapons to South Korea for the duration of the CW which helped it out. Gave weapons to the Greeks in the Greek Civil War, ensuring the reds would not achieve victory. Gave weapons to various paramilitary organizations across the world, which helped bleed the USSR dry (Afghanistan, Angola, El Savador, Nicaragua).
Sure, those helped in the immediate short-term, but other than Greece and South Korea really didn't secure long-term stability in those regions. The weapons we gave to Afghanistan in particular, iirc, did end up in the hands of some nasty people somewhere down the line.

by Washington Resistance Army » Tue Aug 01, 2017 7:03 pm
Valrifell wrote:Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Because he won the election.
I personally hope he doesn't run again.
Oh, but he might. People called Clinton tone deaf but I don't think they've seen people try to penetrate the thick fog of intense ego that surrounds Trump at any given moment, he's probably convinced himself the polls are all lies and if he does get primaried out in 2020 by some small miracle, he'll probably just run third party anyway because he thinks he's so loved by the American people.

by Valrifell » Tue Aug 01, 2017 7:04 pm
Galloism wrote:Valrifell wrote:
Oh, but he might. People called Clinton tone deaf but I don't think they've seen people try to penetrate the thick fog of intense ego that surrounds Trump at any given moment, he's probably convinced himself the polls are all lies and if he does get primaried out in 2020 by some small miracle, he'll probably just run third party anyway because he thinks he's so loved by the American people.
That's a pretty optimistic scenario for 2020.

by Empire of Cats » Tue Aug 01, 2017 7:05 pm
Washington Resistance Army wrote:Valrifell wrote:
Oh, but he might. People called Clinton tone deaf but I don't think they've seen people try to penetrate the thick fog of intense ego that surrounds Trump at any given moment, he's probably convinced himself the polls are all lies and if he does get primaried out in 2020 by some small miracle, he'll probably just run third party anyway because he thinks he's so loved by the American people.
I just want Rand Paul to primary him and win, he's not perfect but he's a hell of a lot better than Trump.
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