Everybody knows that referendums should only be held once, any requests for further referendums should be systematically ignored and, if necessary, actively suppressed. You know, for freedom and democracy.
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by Hurdergaryp » Mon Jul 24, 2017 2:22 pm
by Hurdergaryp » Mon Jul 24, 2017 2:59 pm
Proctopeo wrote:Hurdergaryp wrote:Everybody knows that referendums should only be held once, any requests for further referendums should be systematically ignored and, if necessary, actively suppressed. You know, for freedom and democracy.
We should violate promises to not have another referendum until a certain date because trustworthiness is a myth
by Bakery Hill » Mon Jul 24, 2017 3:02 pm
Souseiseki wrote:https://www.ft.com/content/58fdabbc-7047-11e7-aca6-c6bd07df1a3cAustralia has warned the UK against introducing a tougher visa regime after Brexit, and indicated this issue could have a big influence on talks between Canberra and London about a trade deal.
Australia’s stance highlights a central tension in UK prime minister Theresa May’s self-proclaimed push to create a “global Britain” after Brexit that involves an aggressive push for free trade deals while simultaneously limiting the number of people who can come to Britain.
The UK would like to secure trade deals with Australia and India as quickly as possible after Brexit, but these are the key countries demanding a more liberal British visa regime.
the UK is going to get absolutely skullfucked if it tries to clamp down on immigration
by Hurdergaryp » Mon Jul 24, 2017 3:03 pm
by Proctopeo » Mon Jul 24, 2017 3:09 pm
Hurdergaryp wrote:Proctopeo wrote:Why does it have to be a dichotomy? Can't we hold referendums sometimes? Isn't that what is already done?
Once the outcome of a referendum proves to have rather dire socio-economical long term effects, it could be argued that the previously misinformed masses might want a rematch.
by Fartsniffage » Mon Jul 24, 2017 3:15 pm
by Eredion » Mon Jul 24, 2017 3:25 pm
by Bakery Hill » Mon Jul 24, 2017 3:27 pm
by Dooom35796821595 » Mon Jul 24, 2017 3:28 pm
Bakery Hill wrote:Why is everyone complaining? The people made the right choice.
by Bakery Hill » Mon Jul 24, 2017 3:29 pm
by Hurdergaryp » Mon Jul 24, 2017 3:34 pm
Proctopeo wrote:Hurdergaryp wrote:Once the outcome of a referendum proves to have rather dire socio-economical long term effects, it could be argued that the previously misinformed masses might want a rematch.
Only if they want a rematch. According to Democracy Dies in Darkness Dot Com, about a month ago, 7.1% of polled Brexit voters were Bregetters. On the other hand, 4.4% of Remain voters regretted their votes, too. Based on the Brexit vote results with those percentages, Brexit would still win, although the margin would be closer.
by Wine-loving Chimps » Mon Jul 24, 2017 3:41 pm
Bakery Hill wrote:Why is everyone complaining? The people made the right choice.
Proctopeo wrote:Hurdergaryp wrote:Once the outcome of a referendum proves to have rather dire socio-economical long term effects, it could be argued that the previously misinformed masses might want a rematch.
Only if they want a rematch. According to Democracy Dies in Darkness Dot Com, about a month ago, 7.1% of polled Brexit voters were Bregetters. On the other hand, 4.4% of Remain voters regretted their votes, too. Based on the Brexit vote results with those percentages, Brexit would still win, although the margin would be closer.
by Dooom35796821595 » Mon Jul 24, 2017 3:46 pm
by Proctopeo » Mon Jul 24, 2017 3:48 pm
Wine-loving Chimps wrote:Bakery Hill wrote:Why is everyone complaining? The people made the right choice.
.........................................................................Proctopeo wrote:Only if they want a rematch. According to Democracy Dies in Darkness Dot Com, about a month ago, 7.1% of polled Brexit voters were Bregetters. On the other hand, 4.4% of Remain voters regretted their votes, too. Based on the Brexit vote results with those percentages, Brexit would still win, although the margin would be closer.
And yet the polls on the question of hindsight reveal a different story.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... -poll-says
Slightly older article for sure, but the trend has only continued. Nowadays every poll says that the majority think that Brexit, with hindsight, was a bad idea.
by Vassenor » Mon Jul 24, 2017 4:10 pm
Proctopeo wrote:Hurdergaryp wrote:Everybody knows that referendums should only be held once, any requests for further referendums should be systematically ignored and, if necessary, actively suppressed. You know, for freedom and democracy.
We should violate promises to not have another referendum until a certain date because trustworthiness is a myth
by Calladan » Mon Jul 24, 2017 4:18 pm
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by FelrikTheDeleted » Tue Jul 25, 2017 10:13 pm
Souseiseki wrote:https://www.ft.com/content/58fdabbc-7047-11e7-aca6-c6bd07df1a3cAustralia has warned the UK against introducing a tougher visa regime after Brexit, and indicated this issue could have a big influence on talks between Canberra and London about a trade deal.
Australia’s stance highlights a central tension in UK prime minister Theresa May’s self-proclaimed push to create a “global Britain” after Brexit that involves an aggressive push for free trade deals while simultaneously limiting the number of people who can come to Britain.
The UK would like to secure trade deals with Australia and India as quickly as possible after Brexit, but these are the key countries demanding a more liberal British visa regime.
the UK is going to get absolutely skullfucked if it tries to clamp down on immigration
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