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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Tue Jul 25, 2017 1:32 am

The Feylands wrote:I'm soon gonna be 25. I also have ADHD so maybe I'm disabled as well. Are you happy now?

Maybe I should start using that as an argument for why you can't disagree with me. ;)

Seriously mate: my greatest condolences if that is the case, but if you're not suffering from cancer or something that's actually definitely gonna kill you - please don't tell people you have "7 to 12 years to live". You're not being fair to people's natural empathy for someone in that condition, if that is not the case. Depression is horrible but luckily one of the most researched mental conditions and among those were one can get the best help. People from all over the political spectrum are certainly affected by political decisions in a way that affects their feelings and state of mind negatively. I have never been so angry nor felt such despair myself since the mass immigration crisis here in Sweden. I have had horrible thoughts I wouldn't want to share with anybody. Yet... I survive. Having a condition like mine is btw. not fun to say the least when trying to deal with the bureaucratic nightmare of the welfare state and the best way to not have to deal with that is to get a job - even if it's tough for people like me to have a good night's sleep and get up in the morning on time. Nobody has ever "taken care" of me. They're all busy caring for fake refugees or (hopefully) disabled people who are a lot worse off (although I do know the later have suffered horribly from this as well :( ). Yet... I still survive and manage to go to work as well!

The beauty of living in a democracy is that we can all confront bad ideas and bad arguments and try to convince people that they are wrong, instead of banning people from expressing what their hearts are full of. Some of us might have had boyfriends who acted like "if you leave me I kill myself" while being the kind of person who would die than kill themselves, and might be a bit "resistant" (or maybe even a bit ticked off honestly) of ways of using emotional blackmail like that. With all due respect, but if you get serious mental issues by hearing that people like Trump, Brexit, etc. maybe you shouldn't be spending your time at a place where people do that...? Please don't hesitate to seek professional help if you're hurting yourself, not eating or really feeling suicidal as a result of other people having opinions that you strongly disagree with! You deserve the chance to enjoy this life as much as you can... for what do I know.. even if I believe in God, we both know that this certainly the only chance we know 100% we got to enjoy creation. Use it!


The Feylands wrote:Wow – I managed to get a lot of you guys "triggered", didn't I? ;)

You know what I'm tired of? Feeling guilt. Feeling guilt for standing up for western liberal democracy and being called a fascist or racist. Feeling guilt for being afraid of rapes, murders or the muggings that we've got now in my neighbourhood that never was here before - and being called someone who's listening to “fake news”. Feeling guilt for being angry about money that was meant for say disabled people going to fortune-seekers which is gonna lead us to "salvation" according to some perverse, unnatural political dogma. Feeling guilt for not believing in the cultural left's unholy dogma of a world without borders, sexes, families, nations or religions that is being bought to us through our suffering. For not believing in the emotional manipulation and demonization that separates people from family members and friends like members of the Scientology cult. For simply wanting to live in peace and eventually build a family in a world where my people gets the same respect as any others.

Another thing I'm tired of is people telling me I should feel guilt for offending their feelings for stating an opinion. I'll never be asking people about their private lives as it doesn't really concern me: but are they gonna use that as an argument, and talk about things like not eating or hurting themselves which I might actually know something about – I'm gonna give them whatever advice I can and then ask them to not use that as a political argument. All of us suffer in different ways from what's happening in the politics of our country. I have the greatest respect for people not feeling well on a psychiatric level - but not using that as a political argument. It's not doing any of us who have varying needs of help any good. It's making others not taking those issues serious anymore.

I get that the “BNP/KKK” could be a metaphor. I have my reservations about the French Front National or whatever. If you're really living in the free world, I hope there's a state protecting your rights – and if not, please do alert whatever anti-racist organizations like the SLPC or whatever there are in your country, and the police if necessary. No one should have to be afraid of living in a certain neighbourhood.

In my own constituency, a majority of the voters voted for an agenda that may have me raped or even murdered and mugged and have my home plundered for the sake of "equality". No one cares about my feelings on the matter - they're all full of their own. I swear I hope I don't hate them and just find them misguided, but I don't know if I'm being serious with myself. I might move to my ancestral hometown an hour away. Which might be the wisest thing to do if it comes to that. I have a couple of friends here who share my values, and that's really what's prevented me so far.

All I'm saying is: don't use people's empathy. Don't pressure people on an emotional level in the lines of insinuating that “if you vote a certain what you're the cause of my mental difficulties” or voting for an “anti-disabled agenda” (!!). We don't wanna be b̶o̶y̶ girl calling wolf story when we might be the people who'll be calling for help against the wolf for real one day.


Edits: removed some smilies to comply with the 10 smilies limit.

Highlighted for convenience. Her initial response (first post), based on context, was in relation to this post:

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The Plutonian Empire wrote:As for my happiness or purpose in life? Edit: I have nothing anymore. The worldbuilding project that my NS nation is a part of is literally the only thing thats keeping me alive. The feelings of pure hopelessness I've had the past several months I would not wish on anyone. :(

Sadly, I am going through the same situation, plus I have a massive backlog of things I want to do, but unable to do so due to fatigue and yes, despair. I should be doing the things I need to do soon, because at present I am in a perilous state, living in a country where the stereotype of benefits claimants being "lazy people" prevails.

At best, I probably only have 7 to 12 years left to live, I don't want to have to bother with the fear of retiring in the same situation as I am now. Maybe I won't make it to 2020 if I remain in the UK, given that I have lost a lot of appetite, stopped sleeping properly, and increasingly self-harmed myself over the last few months.

That is the devastating impact of racial hatred.


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Postby Wrapper » Tue Jul 25, 2017 3:24 am

I'm not seeing any of this as baiting or trolling.

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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Tue Jul 25, 2017 9:57 am

Wrapper wrote:I'm not seeing any of this as baiting or trolling.


Alright, just found it questionable and a bit over the line. Thank you though! *leaves whichever form of treats you prefer as "thank you"*
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Tekania wrote:Welcome to NSG, where informed opinions get to bump-heads with ignorant ideology under the pretense of an equal footing.

"When it’s a choice of putting food on the table, or thinking about your morals, it’s easier to say you’d think about your morals, but only if you’ve never faced that decision." - Anastasia Richardson

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