Hakons wrote:THE UNITED FEDERATION OF ALGORENIA wrote:
For the most part i agree with this, but to claim socilaism has failed is base less. Honestly, with all the claims of vioence and land seizure, im picking up that people are confucing socialism with its more radical sibling communism. Socialism has coem to become the norm in the majorty of societies today. Anywhere where the government allows private industries to participate in the market place, while ALSO providing a comparable good or service, you have socialism!
When you attend a Public school, or in some areas take Public transportation, or see the erection of Public works projects, there's a government arm in the economy. When you also allow for the competition or purchasing of these entities (Private school, Private transit, Private works firms, you have a private non- governmental element, thats socialism!
Socialism isn't dead, in fact its far from it. In nations such as Germany, japan, denmark, sweden, russia, china, britain, france, mexico, brazil, south africa, canada, the USA, we see both private and public firms participating in the economy... so your assertion is wrong, however to the degree that socialism plays a role in shaping policy in the public & private realms and how the improve the living standards of citizens varies widely and could do with more improvement.
Public works have predated socialist ideology by thousands of years. While the nations you mentioned do have certain aspects that could be considered socialist, the large majority of the economy is based on capitalism. If European nations were more socialist than capitalist, they would not be in the EU, the text book example of an organization designed for free trade capitalism.
The same could be said for socialism, it too has a lineage traced to ancient primal beginnings of human rationale. There is no 'could' in this factor. They have government influence in the financing, operations, and regulating of their economies and social aspects of their citizens' lives including healthcare, education, and many other facets of life, and again freed trade and socialism have no correlation. The presence of free trade does not retreat from the economic model most of these countries adhere to. One is a system of trade while the other is a mechanism for trade...