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Postby The Knights of Azorea » Thu Jul 20, 2017 2:26 pm

The Splintering of the Middle Kingdom
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In early September, in the twenty-fourth year of Jiaqing, the son of Heaven ascended to heaven, having succumbed to a stroke or some other malady while in the Imperial summer residence. It could not be known at the time, but his death would mark the beginning of the final death spiral of Qing dominance over the Middle Kingdom. News of his death spread out in waves over the various prefectures and provinces of the Qing state, radiating out across the vast and populous domains of the Manchu house, from Guangzhou to Beijing. At first, there was a lull, as the empire, or at least the imperial family mourned its lost patriarch. The Emperor had not been a genius, but he had held the empire together, and no significant collapse had taken place under his watch. The ongoing rot of bureaucratic decline had continued, and Christianity had further infested the country, but that was only to be expected. There was the usual rush through the palace, in the weeks following the death of the Emperor, as men tried to gain power for themselves, attempting to auction off good seats through their support of the young heir, Mianning, eldest son of the Emperor, and the heir apparent. This jostling for position was normal, even expected, but in this instance, it went dreadfully wrong.

Earlier in the year, the ambitious younger son of the Emperor, Miankai, had been named Prince of the First Rank, and this title had only excited his desire for more power. He took it as a sign of his father's favour, and this impression was further forced on him by subversive Christian elements at court, opposing the anti-catholicism of Mianning. Miankai was encouraged by these, and by other power-hungry courtiers, to make a claim to the throne, a drastic measure indeed, but one that was expected to go well, as the Prince had managed to bribe a personal Eunuch of his elder brother to poison Mianning. The young Mianning, however, did not drink the poisoned tea, instead of pouring it away to escape the servant's notice. When it was reported to Miankai that his brother was to undertake his coronation as Emperor only a day after the attempted poisoning, he had been convinced that the poison had worked and that his brother would soon be dead, allowing him to be complacent, and to allow his brothers, now definitively short, reign, before he could ascend to the throne. The ceremony was performed without incident, and it took only three days for Miankai to determine that his plan had failed. Mianning was not aware of his brother's complicity in the plot, but, by a twist of fate, Miankai was sure that he was under suspicion, and that he was to be executed. When an imperial guardsman was sent to call him for a feast, he suspected the man intended to kill him, and so personally killed the guardsman with a concealed knife. Knowing now, that unless Mianning died or he fled, his fate was sealed, Miankai fled the Capital, calling those loyal to him to his side in Nanjing on November the sixth, 1820.

In a matter of weeks, China had gone from a united state, lead by one man, to a divided Empire, in a state of civil war, and it would only decline from there. Miankai declared himself Emperor Wuqing and declared that his collection of rebel governors now ruled as the true Qing dynasty. Chroniclers of the time refer to Wuqing's short-lived empire the Later Qing dynasty. With this first spark, the tinder and oil of the ethnic tension underlying Qing China exploded. Over the winter between Wuqing's rebellion and the beginning of the first true campaigns of the Ya Lie contention, The Khojas in Kashgar revolted against Qing rule, dominating the Tarim Basin in the absence of Imperial support, The Sikh Empire in northern India invaded the Tibetan holdings of the Dynasty, the Viceroyalty of Qinghai seceded, with the local Hui communities demanding further autonomy from Chinese domination, and managing to convince, at gunpoint, the Viceroy to comply.

The year following rent China apart at the seams. In early March 1821, the Yellow River burst its banks, flooding the Yellow River Basin and causing millions of deaths, both in the floods and in the subsequent famine. The famine drove desperation across the area, and, just as the Qing state in Beijing needed supplies and recruits most, agrarian revolts along the basin exploded outward. The famine of 1821 would be combined with the brutal warfare between Qing and Later Qing, including the massacre at Luoyang, in which tens of thousands, soldier and civilian, were slaughtered by Qing forces to ensure future loyalty, once the city had been assaulted. Countless thousands would be slaughtered before the year's end, and the need for food, supplies and recruits to continue the war, on all sides, put an indescribable strain on the average peasant worker of the nation. Before long, the Yangtze River valley, forced to supply a massive amount of the entire nation's supply of food, in the absence of Yellow River farming, also collapsed into rebellion, with local magistrates leading outraged peasants in an attack on both Qing and Later Qing, the mostly Han southerners detesting northern rule. With both arteries of the state effectively severed, the Yangtze and the Yellow River, the government in Beijing was forced to abandon its constant vigilance over the distant territories by May 1823. In September of that year, the Daoguang Emperor of Qing dejected to see his Empire collapsing, committed suicide in the personal imperial residence of the Forbidden Palace. His infant son Shunhei, since the elder prince Yiwei had fallen to illness, was crowned as Emperor the next day, and the Empress Dowager Xiaojingcheng took the reigns of government, with the aid of the Grand Secretariat and the Imperial Eunuchs. The Empress Dowager's intense grief at her husband's death was taken advantage of within weeks of her son's coronation, as various generals and commanders rose up the Imperial ranks by force, and attempted usurpations, until three separate militant states had formed, encompassing the lands north of Beijing and south of the Great Wall, barely held off by the loyalist forces available.

Surrounded by foes, Xiaojingcheng was forced to limit her ambitions, and, after successive catastrophes, both military and personal, as the Imperial princes gradually succame to war and disease. In July 1826, secret missives were dispatched to all remaining loyal governors, detailing that they were to rule their provinces independent of Imperial control until the Dragon Throne could reassert itself. Resorting to desperate measures, the old feudal titles were revived, and the various governors were raised to Ducal and Princely station. Xiaojingcheng later considered this her greatest folly, she had dramatically overestimated public support for her Dynasty and had expected that the independent governors would eventually cede power back to the state, once her son escaped infancy, but this was not to be. With this decree, the so called Ya Lie Edict, every magistrate able to claim power over a few villages did so, and soon almost all of China had collapsed into warring Governorates, Principalities, Duchies, and other tiny states. The outlying regions, abandoned by Imperial forces, struck out on their own at this signal, with the exception of Inner Mongolia and the Manchurian heartland, both of which resisted occupation, being commanded by relatives to the Aisin Gioro Imperial household. In a matter of six years, China, as it had stood since the 1600s, was a mere memory, the map instead populated by countless warlords, with the twin Emperors of Qing and Later Qing soon being joined in the Imperial college by the Governors of Yunnan and Shensi, declaring themselves the Emperors of Southern Qin, and of Later Ming, respectively.

I hope this is up to par. I'll address the ensuring decades in another post, if this is acceptable as is.

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Postby Duestchstien » Thu Jul 20, 2017 2:40 pm

Any nations left over?
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Postby Soviet Chernarus » Thu Jul 20, 2017 2:41 pm

One thing that I want to settle is Sakhalin and the Kuril islands. I see a few options when it comes to this.
  • Option A, the absolute best option for Japan. In OTL, the negotiations trying to settle the disputed areas occurred in 1855. This resulted in the Treaty of Shimoda, which gave Japan the Kurils up to Iturup, and agreed for Japanese settlers to settle the south, and the Russians the north. There weren't any formal boundaries there, though. Given the much worse Crimean War and the January Uprisings, I could see the Shogunate being considerably stronger and more assertive in these negotiations. Initially, the Japanese delegation pressed for all of Sakhalin, and by extension, the Kurils as well. Option A would have Japan getting these territories.
  • Option B would probably see Japan getting all of Sakhalin and the Kurils up to Iturup. Again, Japan pushing a weaker Russia. OTL, the Russian delegation was very well-liked by the Japanese, so it could result in the Russians getting more generous terms than Option A
  • Option C would be a like a reverse-1875 situation. In OTL 1875 Russian got Sakhalin while Japan ended up with all of the Kurils. In Option C, Japan would get Sakhalin, with Russia getting the Kurils. Again, the well-liked Russian delegation helps.
  • Option D would be OTL Shimoda. Borders of Sakhalin are unclear, with a vague agreement of letting the Japanese settle the south and the Russians settle the north. Japan gets the Kuril islands up to Iturup.
  • Option E would be the same as D, except Japan gets all of the Kurils.

Of course we could make our own boundaries when it comes to the Kurils, and there are more options. These are probably the most likely though in my view.

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Postby Reverend Norv » Thu Jul 20, 2017 7:50 pm

Some thoughts: the description of Shogunate politics is detailed and believable, and it outlines an oh-so-fascinating pressure cooker of different ideologies and interests that will make for great drama in-game. And the HMAS Thalassocracy is exactly the kind of crazy prestige project that Cecil Rhodes would actually go for. I also noticed - and appreciate - the detail that in this timeline, Rhodes is Duke of the Transvaal. That alone gives us all an excellent idea of what kind of British Empire we're dealing with. More generally, in fact, I'm really enjoying a lot of the worldbuilding that's going into this thread.

For my next info-dump, I'll be expanding on the Gardner Reforms: the United States' audacious effort to build the world's first "army for the etheric age," which undergirds America's claim to possess the most modern and innovative military in the world. Since, unlike the other Great Powers, the US lacks an entrenched aristocracy with a deep military tradition, it's easier for the US Army to make radical changes to its doctrine and organization. It's a military run by the sons of engineers and tradesmen, and it has a corresponding willingness to ditch centuries of military habits and mores in favor of inventing new tactics to make full use of new technologies.
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Postby Plzen » Thu Jul 20, 2017 11:50 pm

Speaking of prestige projects, here's one of Sweden-Norway's. As a very minor power in space, Sweden-Norway doesn't have any kind of real presence on Venus or on Mars, nor does it have a huge government budget to fund routine interplanetary travel, and consequently Sweden-Norway had to find a... unique approach to space travel and exploration.

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The non-creatively named Station m/88 is designed to overcome the fundamental reason why space travel is difficult and expensive: the sheer cost of lifting ship and supplies from Earth and sending them out across the Solar System. An exploration crew needs water and food, spacecraft needs fuel and air, and moving around a huge spaceship capable of carrying years of supplies (for travel times in space are measured in years) is a logistical nightmare that drains the budget of even the richest nations.

If an exploration crew is capable of producing its own water, food, fuel, and air in the depths of space, then the need for large ships capable of carrying years of supplies would be eliminated, and the exploration of the asteroid belt becomes an affordable prospect. It was, however, considered impossible to derive these things from the airless, lifeless vacuum of deep space. The Great Powers whose vast government budgets could afford to easily send spacecraft across the void to other planets gave no more than a cursory glance at this impossible project. For Sweden-Norway, however, making space travel cheap was an absolute necessity for the nation to have any space program at all, and many abandoned and supposedly impossible lines of research, including this one, was pursued.

Recently, the Ministry of Space of His Majesty's Government of Sweden-Norway has developed an innovative solution to this problem. It was noticed that food, fuel, and air could all be created from the same two raw materials: water and sunlight. Sunlight was available everywhere in the explored parts of the Solar System, and water could be found on asteroids. The problems, however, were still numerous. Most asteroids only had water in its interior, and that in the form of ice. With reduced sunlight further away from the sun, more and more land area was required to generate enough food to feed an exploration crew. There was simply no way for a colony, even using this system, to generate enough water to keep itself alive.

Several years of engineering later, the Ministry of Space demonstrated their answer to these questions in the form of Station m/88. Ironically, this solution was found when the Ministry of Space abandoned the idea of colonisation. The Station is lightweight and thus portable even with small ships. When dropped on a water-rich asteroid, of which there were plenty even outside the Asteroid Belt, the Station would drill down and collect water, using fuel initially supplied from the ship. Then, it would run this water across a special semiconductor surface illuminated by sunlight to start generating its own fuel, with breathable air as a byproduct. Food was as easy as running the water and breathable air down to a fertile surface and letting plants grow.

Of course, the Station was too small to sustain a permanent crew. That's why it didn't. Over a few months, the Station would slowly build up a small cache of water, fuel, food, and air, ready to be picked up by the next exploration vessel. Each exploration vessel would use the supplies from all the probes dropped by all the previous exploration vessels. Each exploration vessel would therefore be able to go a little further than the last one, before dropping a couple more probes. Slowly but surely, the Ministry of Space would be able to land probes on the hundreds of asteroids that lie between Earth, the other planets, and the Asteroid Belt, and then it would be able to send ships anywhere with minimal supplies.

But all that, still, is in the future. The twenty Station m/88 that currently exist are all still sitting in a warehouse in Göteborg...
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Postby Ulls » Fri Jul 21, 2017 5:23 am

I hope that the Mods don't bad me for using the KKK emblem for worldbuilding but this is the world building of the KKK and the Knights of Dixie that has current control of them. Hope you like it.

The Beginning of the Ku Klux Klan


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The beginnings of the KKK started with the burning of a black church by six former Confederacy veterans in an at of retaliation. This sparked the rise of other KKK chapters that that did small-scale rampages across the south throughout the first part of 1866 until the KKK used looted weaponry to assassinate Gen. Robert Sinclair and his retune in mid 1867. From then on, the numbers of the Klan skyrocketed by getting veterans and volunteers as they attacked Federal troops, lynched black politicians, and raided military bases throughout the Eastern South.

The Klan managed to assassinate the Military Gov. of Texas in response to the Ironclad Oath in 1868. The media reported the first use of the "ghost masquerades" that the Klan will be known to do as they paraded themselves in several small towns in Eastern Texas, Louisiana, and Alabama to celebrate the defiance of America and shouting " Antebellum still lives!" as their battlecry as they did increased their attacks in the south and establish more than a dozen chapters to try and fight the Union for the south.

Within 1870, the membership of the Klan peaked in the hundred thousands. They were still decentralized but highly effective smaller chapters as their rampaged and civil unrest threaten the growing number of Federal Troops that came to fight them. They still didn't have the numbers to take the south back but they will become the boogeymen of small town militias as bands of white clothed rebels on horseback come and massacre entire towns and freedmen farms in the name of the Lost Cause.

The Woodfall Campaign


Two years before the Woodfall Campaign, the Mobile Chapter of KKK was under the leadership of a man by the name of Andrew R. Shepard. Shepard was a man who was known for his moderate take on the KKK and believed more in trying to reestablished the Confederacy but he was known to do whatever it took to get his job done. This made him no better than other factions but he will mold his beliefs later after. When the Campaign actually started, Shepard blew up the capital building and rally the forces of Northern Alabama and moved his chapter there to meet the Troops.

He was known as a skilled commander and a butcher of prisoners. He was known as the butcher of the Appalachian Mountains because of this and did manage to be feared but he fled in the battle of Summit Peak with three other commanders to Venus while those in Tennessee escaped to Mars.

Post-Woodfall Campaign and the Knights of Dixie


Within three months after the Campaign, the KKK became nearly non-existent. Hundreds of chapters closed and what's left of the Klan either hid in the South, renounced their allegiance, or ran to Europe for sanctuary and a new life. The South cheered as the terrorism was largely over for now. On Mars and Venus, the two remnants of the KKK came together and discussed what to do about this defeat. The Klan chapters of Venus at the time came under the power of Shepard and were reorganized to be more moderate as they saw the plight of what the US has done to Mars and other smaller countries of Earth.

He made his case to the Klan members of Mars to try and take this stance. The result was less than desired but they stayed allies in the larger Klan as Shepard was still fighting for the cause. It was then that Shepard's Klan became known as the Knights of Dixie, who cared less about the Klan tenants and became more about fighting the Union's influence everywhere it touches, becoming a Confederacy in space. This was a pivotal point for it will influence how the Klan is able to ally with other countries and find support in places that the past Klan would've never thought about.

The Knights of Dixie and Mars


Starting from 1884, the Knights of Dixie and the KKK started to spread two different types of propaganda to US-aligned city-states. The idea was to see if the Martians would respond to the traditional KKK ideas or to the Knights more progressive ones. The Martians became more aligned with the Knights, believing that the Knights could slay the "Dragon of the Union". The KKK of Mars started to view their Venusian cousin in a different light.

The Finding of Antebellum and Restructuring the Klan


Over the last half of 1884 to the end of 1885, the Knights started to take over the larger Klan and started to make the chapters see the larger scale of things. Within Venus, they found a native species of lizardmen who were stuck in the stone age. They enslaved them in order to build settlements and finding the rouge country of Antebellum. They will use the natives to build plantations, factories, and settlements that send smuggled goods across poorer countries of Earth as well started to search for allies against American influence.

They became more intertwine with one another and organized. From the poorer countries to Japan, the KKK had became more of a symbol of Neo-Confederates that stand against the Union. However, with the international and alien allies came animosities from the more traditional chapters of the Klan. While they welcomed the resurgence of the Klan with more updated weaponry and organization, they didn't like working with "other races" or " Martian Bastards" and either constantly express concern, violently oppose working with Martian chapters, or just leave the KKK, believing it has lost its way under the Knights.

Still, the KKK had became a interplanetary insurgency that has became more of a threat to America than they were when they were contained in the South.

The Current Klan


The Klan nowadays is more diverse, yet fractured in their beliefs. With the bombing of the Worlds Fair, the assault on the prisons that failed, and the Martian Knight chapters spreading propaganda have made them a threat. However the Knights on both Venus and Mars have become more distant to the larger Klan in the Southern Heartland, same between the Klan chapters in other places outside of the US. This comes with the white supremacy that is still a strong pillar in the south as opposed to the notion being put aside or weakened enough to fight the Union wherever by using anyone who is willing to fight, weather they be alien or non-white. However this is not the same treatment to their lizardmen slaves as they had to crush a rebellion and are still capturing more tribes in secret to fuel their war effort and growing settlements.

On Mars, the city-state of Alcyon became a major hotbed for Confederate activity after the Alcyon Expedition as thousands of Martians joined the Knights and formed the largest chapter of the alien Knights, vowing vengeance on the Americans for what they did. This influenced a merchant council in the Martian city-state of Allure to attempt a coup to their leadership before they sign the city with the US. In exchange they pledge support to the KKK.

Shepard mobilizes his troops on Mars as the Loyal League butchers a white family they suspected had connections to the KKK. This was in retaliation to a terrorist bombing. There's also been a growing number of Neo-Confederate sympathizers in Cuba and Japan as smuggled KKK weaponry has been seen in the hands of militants and enemies of the US-aligned governments. They have been having the most trouble in Eastern Europe and China as Neo-Confederates have been playing a game of cat-and-mouse with the CIA and FIST after an attempted assassination on one the generals over there and a stirring up anti-American protests in Korea.

South America has been the most beneficial as KKK-aligned smuggling countries have been able to fund a lot of the operations in that part of the world. Warlords and rebel cells are becoming coming place with drugs, supplies, and weapons are being smuggled in via airship in order to give American interest trouble. They also have been looking into seeing what they could do to hinder the upcoming war with the Spanish but so far they have their resources tied up on securing a partner in Mars.

I hope this paints a picture somewhat of what I believe the KKK is/was doing and I will try to give some more info on the different types of chapters and probably some specialization for them.

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Postby Reverend Norv » Fri Jul 21, 2017 7:27 am

Looks good to me. Two points, both minor: there is no CIA (in this timeline, the Secret Service handles foreign espionage), and the major campaign against the Klan is called Woodall (as in Woodall Mountain in northeast Mississippi), not Woodfall.

And Station m/88 is a brilliantly clever use of resources for a smaller country. When it goes online, it will doubtless change the whole game of space travel.
For really, I think that the poorest he that is in England hath a life to live as the greatest he. And therefore truly, Sir, I think it's clear that every man that is to live under a Government ought first by his own consent to put himself under that Government. And I do think that the poorest man in England is not at all bound in a strict sense to that Government that he hath not had a voice to put himself under.
Col. Thomas Rainsborough, Putney Debates, 1647

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Postby Ulls » Fri Jul 21, 2017 12:50 pm

Reverend Norv wrote:Looks good to me. Two points, both minor: there is no CIA (in this timeline, the Secret Service handles foreign espionage), and the major campaign against the Klan is called Woodall (as in Woodall Mountain in northeast Mississippi), not Woodfall.

And Station m/88 is a brilliantly clever use of resources for a smaller country. When it goes online, it will doubtless change the whole game of space travel.

Ok I'll handle it.

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Postby Reverend Norv » Fri Jul 21, 2017 4:28 pm

The Gardner Reforms
America's Warfare for the Etheric Age

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"Victory in the next war will go to whichever army most clearly grasps this maxim: there are no frontlines in the sky."
- Major General Everett Richard Gardner, Chief of the United States Army General Staff




The Gardner Reforms are an ongoing program of modernization affecting the equipment, tactics, doctrine, and training of the United States Army. Their goal is to transform the US Army into the first true "army for the etheric age," based on the use of aerial mobility and firepower to outmaneuver and outgun less flexible earthbound formations. While the efficacy of the Gardner Reforms has never been tested in battle against another modern army, the Reforms' sheer audacity has won the United States an important lead in the global race to develop new tactics and technologies for a new age of warfare.

- Background -

Three developments in the years after the Civil War made the Gardner Reforms feasible. One was political; one was economic; and one was military.

  • The first of these was the passage of the National Service System Acts of 1870, which created a standing conscript army of all able-bodied men between the ages of eighteen and twenty-one. The United States had never before possessed a large standing army, and to manage it, the National Service System Acts also created the United States Army General Staff. The General Staff's members were drawn from the graduates of the Army War College, and they were responsible for strategic planning and for making policy affecting the organization, doctrine, and equipment of the Army as a whole. Unlike in most European armies, in which the general staff was the preserve of traditional aristocrats, admission to the new Army War College was based purely on intelligence and merit.
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    These qualities were assessed through personal interviews and test scores, and fewer than half of all applicants were accepted. The War College's first Commandant was General William T. Sherman, and he trained American staff officers in exhaustive attention to detail, rigorous research, and ruthless pragmatism: no martial tradition, no ideal of military glory or fair play, was to be allowed to hinder the US Army in its operations. Victory was to be won at the greatest possible speed, with the greatest possible completeness, at the lowest possible cost. Everything else was irrelevant.

  • The second development that led directly to the success of the Gardner Reforms was the Martian War of 1881, fought to defend American settlers amid the liftwood forests. The war's end left the United States with an informal empire of American settler colonies and Martian puppet city-states scattered across the surface of the red planet. This new situation dramatically increased the availability of liftwood on the American market: Cornelius Vanderbilt and other titans of industry bought up huge swathes of the liftwood forests of southern Mars and turned them into tree farms that - by 1889 - produced almost a million cubic feet of processed liftwood per year. The determined and early efforts of the United States to gain a strong position on Mars were beginning to pay economic dividends. Moreover, during the Martian War, officers of the Army General Staff were sent to observe and advise US forces in the field. These officers noted the way that Martian forces used small liftwood "air-sleds," whose traditional designs dated back centuries, to outmaneuver their much more technologically advanced American foes. In 1882, the General Staff committed dozens of officers and almost ten thousand dollars to a secret research program investigating the feasibility for mass production of a small liftwood aircraft that could provide a platoon of infantry with rapid, independent mobility on the battlefield.

  • The third factor that created the political will for reform within the Army was the costly success of the 1883 Woodall Campaign against the Klu Klux Klan. Despite the involvement of almost a quarter-million federal troops, thousands of pieces of artillery, and even six armored trains, the campaign took almost a year to complete and inflicted nearly ten thousand casualties on federal forces. US Army commanders discovered that a well-entrenched enemy in good defensive terrain, armed with repeating rifles and makeshift artillery, could not be outflanked effectively; such an enemy could be displaced only by massive artillery bombardment followed by hideously costly frontal assaults, in which any defenders left alive would gun down many times their number of US troops. This problem led to a variety of tactical innovations: at the Battle of Summit Peak, Major General Emory Upton requisitioned dozens of hot-air balloons from a local surveyor and used them to land a battalion of federal troops behind the Klan's fortifications, throwing the rebel defenders into confusion. The General Staff took note: modern weapons could turn war into a duel of artillery and entrenchments, but modern air transport could offer a way to escape that fate. Tactics had to adapt themselves to new technology, or war would become a charnel house of butchery.
In January 1883, Major General Everett R. Gardner was appointed to head the US Army General Staff. At forty-seven, Gardner was young for the post, but he perfectly embodied the values of the new US Army: the Harvard-educated son of an engineer, he approached war as a demanding technical problem that could be solved through the application of intelligence, hard work, and creative thinking. But Gardner was also, in his own peculiar way, an idealist. He believed, like most New Whigs, in the ideal of the citizen-soldier; he felt that a democratic conscript army was nothing less than the people-in-arms, and that it embodied the highest civic republican ideals of equality and self-sacrifice. Gardner was a protégé of Speaker of the House John Bingham, who recommended Gardner to lead the General Staff. The two men shared a belief that the mission of the US Army was to protect and extend human freedom; next to this sacred calling, traditional military notions of glory or honor or fair play melted into insignificance. To Gardner, any tactic or technology, however unorthodox or ungentlemanly or unfair, that brought swifter victory at a lower cost was justified in the service and defense of liberty.

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Gardner had seen the carnage of trench warfare as a lieutenant at the Siege of Petersburg in 1865. He had also been a staff liaison to the 21st Ohio Infantry Regiment during the Martian War, and he had served as Chief of Staff of the Army of the Tennessee during the Woodall Campaign. From these three experiences, Gardner came to a simple conclusion: the combination of modern weapons and difficult terrain created extended, fortified frontlines that could not be breached without unacceptable loss of life. The only way to bypass these frontlines was to transport ground forces by air, using rapid airborne maneuvers to land troops directly in the enemy's rear. But this was an intolerably risky approach: once they landed, US troops would be cut off from resupply and artillery support. Worse, by dint of having landed in enemy territory, they would by definition be encircled by enemy forces. Gardner fixed his full attention on this central doctrinal question: how could one empower US troops to fight effectively even when the enemy had cut them off from their supply depots and artillery?

As the question of how to supply and support airmobile forces came to consume the General Staff, many of Gardner's colleagues noted that it represented a microcosm at the tactical level of a larger strategic issue. Like forward-deployed airmobile units, American expeditionary forces on Mars, in Korea, and in Central America were cut off by distance and foreign threats (like the Royal Navy's maritime hegemony) from the American heartland - the ultimate source of resupply and reinforcement. At the strategic level as at the tactical level, the challenge was to make expeditionary forces effective despite their seeming isolation and encirclement.

Gardner's answer, at both the strategic level and the tactical level, was to commit the Army fully to the new technology of air transport. After all, if troops could be landed by air behind enemy lines, then they could also be resupplied by air in the same way. Moving artillery from the land to the sky by arming airships with field cannon could bring fire support within reach of units that were theoretically encircled by the enemy. Airborne units would be empowered to break through enemy encirclements by new advances in platoon-level firepower and mobility: infantry with repeating rifles would be rapidly redeployed using small, low-flying hovercraft (based on traditional Martian air-sleds, but armed with Gatling guns). This would bring a high volume of concentrated firepower to bear on a narrow area of the enemy's front too rapidly for the foe to respond effectively. Drawing inspiration from Stonewall Jackson at Chancellorsville and Frederick the Great at Rossbach, Gardner described the core idea as "outflanking an enemy with no flanks" - the use of superior mobility to concentrate firepower unexpectedly against a single vulnerable point.

- The Reforms -

The realization of this vision required two major technological innovations, two smaller technological advancements, and a fundamental shift in military doctrine.

  • The first major technological challenge was to design an airship that could transport a battalion-strength force to the battlefield, deploy those troops from the air to the ground, support them from the air with accurate artillery fire, and ferry supplies to them in the field. Such an airship would be the crucial link between forward-deployed airborne forces and a secure rear area. But a problem soon presented itself: even for the United States, building one huge liftwood airship for every battalion in the US Army was prohibitively expensive. The battalion-level airship, therefore, would have to remain lighter than air: a dirigible, like the German zeppelin. But how could such an airship remain buoyant when it was loaded down with a battalion's worth of troops, their supplies, field artillery to support them, and enough armor to protect them from enemy artillery trained on the skies?

    Colonel Arthur McCallum, an Scottish-born engineering officer on the General Staff, devised a solution. The new McCallum-class airships were ungainly but ingenious: giant, vertically elongated flying ovals, three times as tall as they were wide. The bottom surface of the oval was covered in two inches of hardened steel plate, and encrusted with turrets for six 3.2-inch field guns; but the sides and top were unarmored. The top surface of the airship supported the gondola, with facilities for the crew, cargo space for a battalion of infantry and its supplies, and a hangar for some kind of small aircraft to ferry the troops from the airship to the ground. The genius of the design was that, since the volume of a spheroid expands faster than its surface area, vertically stretching the airship's frame gave it vastly improved buoyancy while minimizing the bottom-facing area that was exposed to enemy fire (and which therefore required heavy armor). When the tall, skinny dirigible was filled with helium, it gave the McCallum-class sufficient lift to take off despite being laden with armor, field guns, troops, and supplies. The result was a design that was protected from most surface-to-air fire, and that could transport soldiers and supplies and support them with airborne artillery, but that retained enough buoyancy to fly.

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    The major defect of the McCallum-class was that its sides and top remained completely unarmored, in order to keep the design lighter-than-air: the new airships were protected from enemy surface-to-air shellfire, but they were exposed to attack from other airships, especially purpose-built airships-of-the-line. This limited the new Gardner Army's effectiveness against an enemy with air superiority, and it would ultimately lead Congress to reevaluate its longstanding opposition to a force of airships designed specifically for air-to-air combat.

  • The second major technological challenge was to design a modern version of the traditional Martian air-sled: a small aircraft that could transport a platoon of soldiers from McCallum-class airships to the ground, move them rapidly from one location to another on the battlefield, and provide them with direct fire support at the decisive point. These aircraft clearly had to be heavier than air, because they would fly low to the ground and suffer exposure to so much enemy fire that any balloon would surely be shredded. But they also would need to be mass-produced by the thousand, which made it impossible to construct them entirely from liftwood. But if a heavier-than-air aircraft wasn't made from liftwood, then how could it be deployed from a McCallum-class airship thousands of feet in the sky?

    The pragmatic answer came from a team of engineers at Menlo Park, whom the General Staff hired as private consultants: what the Army needed was not a true aircraft, but a more limited hovercraft. The design was dubbed an airsled after its Martian inspiration, though it looked more like a small floating riverboat. It started with a keel of liftwood: this provided just enough lift to keep the airsled floating about five feet off the ground, but it was inexpensive enough for mass production. Then, a coal-powered steam boiler - enhanced with etheric technology to amplify its efficiency - powered six ducted fans in the airsled's underside. These fans provided propulsion, but they also served a far more important purpose: when the airsled was launched from a McCallum-class airship, the fans provided retro-thrust and combined with the liftwood keel to slow the airsled's descent. Because an airsled still lacked the lift to fly on its own, it essentially fell to Earth when it was launched - but it was a gradual, controlled fall that resembled a gentle glide. Once the airsled had landed, the liftwood keel kept it floating a few feet off the ground - high enough to bypass fallen trees and boulders - and the fans let the airsled move rapidly around the battlefield at about twenty miles per hour. This gave airborne troops the mobility advantage that they needed even after they had landed.

    Like the McCallum-class, the airsled had one major defect. Once it had landed, it was too heavy to rise more than about ten feet off the ground again, even with all six fans providing vertical thrust. As a result, while an airsled could carry troops from an airship to the earth, it could not carry them back from the earth to an airship: once deployed, troops were stuck on the ground until they could clear a safe landing zone for the battalion airship. But despite its limitations, the design proved reliable, relatively inexpensive, and easy to mass-produce with existing factories and technologies. Early plans to arm it with a rocket under the bow (see blueprint at top of entry) were scrapped in favor of a simpler, more reliable deck-mounted Gatling gun with a protective shield for the gunner. A quarter-inch of steel armor offered some protection for embarked troops, though high-caliber bullets could still penetrate an airsled's hull. On the whole, though, an airsled offered an infantry platoon a revolutionary new level of speed, firepower, and survivability.

  • One smaller technological challenge was to increase the firepower of the individual airmobile soldier, so that each platoon could more easily overwhelm the enemy and break out of encirclement after it landed. This was achieved by adopting a repeating rifle as the standard infantry arm, allowing each soldier to produce a greater volume of fire at the decisive point. The Ordnance Department had long opposed issuing repeating rifles as standard, on the grounds that they degraded marksmanship and encouraged the waste of ammunition. John Bingham argued in an open letter to the New York Tribune that these claims were an insult to the competence and self-control of the American citizen-soldier. Because of the resulting political furor, Gardner got his way, and the Winchester Repeating Arms Company was commissioned to design a .30 caliber repeating rifle for mass production. The result was the Winchester M1885, which used an internal box magazine rather than the traditional tubular magazine in order to accommodate military-grade spitzer ammunition. In most other ways, it was the same reliable lever-action weapon that had been popular in the private sector since the Civil War.

  • Another relatively minor technological challenge was to apply the idea of airmobile warfare on the strategic scale. This required a greater capacity to deploy and supply expeditionary forces by air. The demand was met by Thomas Edison's Menlo Park Industrial Corporation, which designed a truly enormous helium dirigible almost 250 meters long. Dubbed the New Jersey-class, these gigantic airships could each carry fifteen tons of cargo: enough to keep a regiment in the field supplied for almost a week. Strikingly, the design's only use of etheric technology was to amplify the power of its boiler, improving its top speed; otherwise, the New Jersey-class was simply the application of pre-etheric engineering on a much larger industrial scale.

  • Finally, and most worryingly, the reforms posed a deep challenge to traditional models of tactical command and control. In a war of rapid maneuver, in which every platoon commander could use an airsled to swiftly redeploy his troops, no general could possibly maintain a real-time understanding of the progress of a battle. The pace of events would entirely overwhelm the commander's capacity to respond to them. Frontline officers, on the other hand, could not be expected to maintain a broad enough perspective to understand the effects of their local decisions on the battle as a whole.
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    How, then, could one prevent a large operation from turning into a hundred separate firefights, with every lieutenant acting on his own initiative and allowing the overall plan go to wrack and ruin in the process?

    Gardner settled on what he viewed as an inherently more democratic model of command: mission-type tactics. Every officer, from the highest staff officer to the lowliest platoon commander, would be exhaustively briefed before every operation. This briefing would make clear to every officer the overall objectives of the operation; the exact plan by which the overall commander intended to achieve those objectives; and the exact role of each unit, from the regiment down to the individual platoon, in executing the commander's plan. As a result, when the tempo of battle left the commander unable to issue coherent orders to particular officers, those officers would already know their purpose within the overall plan; they would be able to adjust their tactics and to make independent decisions in furtherance of the mission as a whole, without waiting for direct instructions from headquarters.

    This required a revolution in the Army's training and doctrine. While the bulk of the Army's enlisted men remained conscripts, officers were increasingly required to be professionals. Since officers now had to be competent tacticians capable of independent thought in the service of a larger operational plan, Gardner required every officer to pass a six-month tactics course in order to earn his commission. Even junior officers were encouraged to ask questions at pre-battle briefings, and to share key lessons from those briefings with NCOs, so that a general sense of the operation's goals would filter down to the ordinary enlisted soldiers. As a result, the US Army would depend less on detailed master plans, and more on the initiative of competent officers leading flexible platoons and companies in the field. Gardner called this "the democratization of warfare: a leap of faith in the extraordinary potential of ordinary citizen soldiers."
By 1886, roughly one-quarter of the Army's regiments had been reformed in line with Gardner's principles, and the new airships, airsleds, and repeating rifles were entering mass production at factories from New York to California. But it remained to be seen what fruits the Army's transformation would bear on the battlefield.

- Results -

The initial international reaction to the Gardner Reforms was bemused tolerance. Most European general staffs were confident that American understanding of military science was shallow, and that American officers were prone to naive, bourgeois enthusiasms. The US Army's reforms, it was generally felt, amounted to the science-fiction posturing of a bunch of overeducated shopkeepers - nothing for the veterans of Crimea to worry overmuch about.

That breezy unconcern was dented by the 1886 Alcyon Expedition. Alcyon, a powerful and expansionist Martian city-state, attacked the neighboring Commonwealth of Zephyria, which had been an American puppet since the 1881 Martian War. Zephyria was more than a thousand miles from Fort Edison, and Alcyon's commanders gambled that they could crush their neighbor before US forces arrived to defend it. Instead, four McCallum-class airships transported two regiments from Fort Edison to Alcyon itself in just four days - covering a thousand miles before the army of Alcyon could even march the ninety miles to Zephyria. The Martian enemy was obliged to turn back to defend its home territory, whereupon the 15th New York Colored Infantry and the 8th Ohio Cavalry Regiment landed to intercept the foe in the canyons of Memnonia.

Over the next two days, two thousand US troops used airsleds and flexible mission-type tactics to divide the twelve thousand-strong Alcyon army, and scattered the enemy in small groups across nine square miles of battlefield. The Martians were unable to pin down the highly mobile American forces, resulting in a constant running battle with no real frontlines. Amid this flux, the Americans used their superior mobility to engage the enemy piecemeal, surrounding one group of Martians at a time and bringing to bear the full power of their repeating rifles, airsled-mounted Gatling guns, and airship-mounted artillery. In forty-five hours, the Americans inflicted five thousand casualties on the enemy and suffered only nine fatalities in return. Alcyon surrendered to the United States just one week after it began its war against Zephyria - and the more perceptive members of Europe's general staffs began to wonder if there might be more to America's audacious military experiment than mere republican bluster.

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At home, the success of the Alcyon Expedition crystallized political and public support behind the Gardner Reforms. Within the US Army, officers and enlisted men alike began to view themselves as members of a cutting-edge force that was leading the world in military innovation. After years of grueling guerrilla warfare with the Klu Klux Klan, the American soldier could find a certain glamour in his profession once again. The New Whigs in Congress, thrilled that their expensive gamble on military reform had paid off, began to speak of the Army as the soul and conscience of the nation: Everett Gardner's belief that a democratic conscript army embodied the civic republican spirit of sacrifice became New Whig orthodoxy with remarkable speed. New uniforms were even introduced, and the blue tunic, khaki trousers, brown leather jackboots, and broad-brimmed brown slouch hat of the US Army soldier soon became an emblem of American pride and republican moral rectitude.

In Washington, though, the New Whigs realized that the cost of the Gardner Reforms was rising with each new year. In part, this was because the industrial effort involved in transforming the Army required federal investment in whole sectors of the economy. That investment, admittedly, paid rich dividends in economic growth. The Army's demand for liftwood to build more than ten thousand airsled keels required expanded federal railroad construction on Mars. This lowered the cost of liftwood farming, and attracted even more investment by the Vanderbilt family, which boosted the American liftwood industry. The demand for enough helium to fill thousands of new dirigibles sparked a boom in natural gas extraction from helium-rich fields in Kansas, creating thirty thousand new jobs in chemical refineries. The need for an expanding yearly supply of advanced etheric boilers to outfit military aircraft of all kinds allowed Edison's industrial complex at Menlo Park to open an entire additional factory complex, employing fifteen thousand workers in nine gigantic buildings. The Gardner Reforms came to function indirectly as yet another federal stimulus program for American industry.

Industrial expansion encouraged further military reform. In 1889, eyeing the Spanish Empire, Congress even authorized a ten-year, three-million-dollar program to construct a fleet of fifty state-of-the-art, all-liftwood, heavily armored airships-of-the-line. This program was intended to address the one major vulnerability of the new Army: the ubiquitous McCallum-class airships were very vulnerable to attack by other airships, because they were only armored on their undersides. The solution to this problem was for the US to invest in aerial battleships of its own, to protect the McCallum-class transports. On Mars, American colonists and Vanderbilt managers prepared for yet another bonanza of federal spending on liftwood. But the airship construction program revealed that the great loser of the Reforms was the US Navy: the meager budget of the American surface fleet was savagely cut to pay for increased spending on air forces, and the Army General Staff even suggested that, in twenty years, airpower would render the surface warship obsolete. By 1889, the Navy had been reduced to little more than a coast-guard force blessed with a few rusting frigates for trade protection.

At the present moment, the rest of the world has begun to realize that the Americans have stolen a march on the other Great Powers: the US Army's level of technological and tactical innovation is five crucial years ahead of almost every other fighting force on Earth. While many conservative European generals continue to declare that the so-called "Flying Yanks" will crumble when faced with a proper infantry square or a professional heavy cavalry charge, pragmatists across the globe have begun to suspect that they are witnessing a bona fide military revolution in progress - and that the only way to catch up with the US is to follow its example, no matter how unbearable that prospect may be for military traditionalists. Reform is spreading.

Everett Gardner has won the United States an early lead in the race to develop a new army for the Etheric Age. Now, the challenge for the Republic is to keep it.
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My apologies for the delay: we had some nasty storms in my area over the last few days and I've had to wait for somebody from the company to fix my router box before I had access to the internet. Right now, getting the OOC up is my first priority for the health of the thread, and I'll review everything else afterwords.
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Postby Reverend Norv » Fri Jul 21, 2017 7:17 pm

Sounds great!

Thanks to GCCS for the format in my post today, too. It's a great set-up to convey a lot of information in a fairly readable fashion.
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I should probably start developing what Sweden-Norway's military might look like in the era of etheric warfare. Probably badly outdated, all things considered.

I'll think about it when I need to, I suppose, because I have no ideas right now.

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Plzen wrote:I should probably start developing what Sweden-Norway's military might look like in the era of etheric warfare. Probably badly outdated, all things considered.

I'll think about it when I need to, I suppose, because I have no ideas right now.


I mean, with Germany blown to smithereens and Russia humbled, I'm not seeing a lot of strategic pressure on S-N. Military progress often slows when there's no real risk of war.
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Reverend Norv wrote:I mean, with Germany blown to smithereens and Russia humbled, I'm not seeing a lot of strategic pressure on S-N. Military progress often slows when there's no real risk of war.

So we're more or less agreed that Sweden-Norway's military would be badly outdated. I was thinking more from an internal politics perspective.

The Conservatives are unnerved by the decentralised military command introduced to the US armed forces by the Reforms, and all that it represents. The Liberals are probably unwilling to strengthen the military in any real way, since the armed forces are by far the most right-leaning state institution. The Socialists in the government are irrelevant and their opinions don't matter. All in all, there are very few people in the Riksdag and the Storting that is willing to argue in favour of copying the Gardner Reforms.

Sweden-Norway probably has airbourne infantry, in the sense of having a few ships to rapidly shuttle around infantry to where they're needed. I can't really see decentralised command or anything like a sky navy happening for Sweden-Norway.

RL Denmark 1940 comes to mind.
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Reverend Norv wrote:I mean, with Germany blown to smithereens and Russia humbled, I'm not seeing a lot of strategic pressure on S-N. Military progress often slows when there's no real risk of war.

So we're more or less agreed that Sweden-Norway's military would be badly outdated. I was thinking more from an internal politics perspective.

The Conservatives are unnerved by the decentralised military command introduced to the US armed forces by the Reforms, and all that it represents. The Liberals are probably unwilling to strengthen the military in any real way, since the armed forces are by far the most right-leaning state institution. The Socialists in the government are irrelevant and their opinions don't matter. All in all, there are very few people in the Riksdag and the Storting that is willing to argue in favour of copying the Gardner Reforms.

Sweden-Norway probably has airbourne infantry, in the sense of having a few ships to rapidly shuttle around infantry to where they're needed. I can't really see decentralised command or anything like a sky navy happening for Sweden-Norway.

RL Denmark 1940 comes to mind.


That's very interesting. Some level of investment in air-mobile infantry would likely be widespread, considering that balloons were used in warfare in our timeline as far back as the 1860s. As a rich country, Sweden-Norway might even be more invested in that than most.

But I think you've put your finger on an insightful observation: mission-type tactics, by their nature, are unlikely to appeal to conservatives who value social hierarchy. And without mission-type tactics, air-mobile forces can't be used to their full potential - because the tempo of air-mobile operations exceeds the speed of communication between HQ and field officers. So without mission-type tactics, every airborne company commander would spent a lot of his time waiting for the latest orders from headquarters, and the tactical initiative - the great advantage of airmobile operations - would be lost. But with mission-type tactics, the army's status as a bastion of the social order would be imperiled, because judgment rather than obedience would become the key virtue of an officer. That's the essential paradox that would face any conservative army in trying to imitate the Gardner Reforms.
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Reverend Norv wrote:That's very interesting. Some level of investment in air-mobile infantry would likely be widespread, considering that balloons were used in warfare in our timeline as far back as the 1860s. As a rich country, Sweden-Norway might even be more invested in that than most.

A shortage of manpower has always been the perennial problem of the Swedish Army, after all. I can see that happening. The armed forces would be motivated to make use of such an obvious force multiplier like that.

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Would the Neo Confederates be a tech shorter than the US in military?

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Ulls wrote:Would the Neo Confederates be a tech shorter than the US in military?


I mean, considering that the Klan lacks anything approaching the industrial base of the USA, they would almost certainly lag behind in technology. Anyway, any insurgency has to rely on different tactics from a standing army; the Klan's strengths would be the support of Southern whites and a global expatriate network, the ability to attack high-profile targets like the World's Fair, and the capacity to terrorize northern cities using high-casualty bomb attacks. But the KKK is probably not going to be winning a head-on fight with an air-mobile US Army regiment any time soon. That, at least, would be my assessment; ultimately, it is of course up to Granadeseret.
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Ulls wrote:Would the Neo Confederates be a tech shorter than the US in military?


I mean, considering that the Klan lacks anything approaching the industrial base of the USA, they would almost certainly lag behind in technology. Anyway, any insurgency has to rely on different tactics from a standing army; the Klan's strengths would be the support of Southern whites and a global expatriate network, the ability to attack high-profile targets like the World's Fair, and the capacity to terrorize northern cities using high-casualty bomb attacks. But the KKK is probably not going to be winning a head-on fight with an air-mobile US Army regiment any time soon. That, at least, would be my assessment; ultimately, it is of course up to Granadeseret.

I understand about my tactics for fighting, just getting a scope for how much lag will I have compared to the Union. I'm expecting a significant amount of lag but I would say that the Klan would have reverse engineered some Union tech but they lack major sources of liftwood which is why they are going to help Allure in its problem.

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Ulls wrote:
Reverend Norv wrote:
I mean, considering that the Klan lacks anything approaching the industrial base of the USA, they would almost certainly lag behind in technology. Anyway, any insurgency has to rely on different tactics from a standing army; the Klan's strengths would be the support of Southern whites and a global expatriate network, the ability to attack high-profile targets like the World's Fair, and the capacity to terrorize northern cities using high-casualty bomb attacks. But the KKK is probably not going to be winning a head-on fight with an air-mobile US Army regiment any time soon. That, at least, would be my assessment; ultimately, it is of course up to Granadeseret.

I understand about my tactics for fighting, just getting a scope for how much lag will I have compared to the Union. I'm expecting a significant amount of lag but I would say that the Klan would have reverse engineered some Union tech but they lack major sources of liftwood which is why they are going to help Allure in its problem.


That seems plausible, on the whole. After all, no one understands a military advancement more quickly and completely than the people who are hurt when the enemy adopts it.
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Postby Ulls » Fri Jul 21, 2017 9:47 pm

I'll put up an info dump about the military tech of the Klan and see if it works for you Reverend. I just don't want to come off too strong or too weak that I can't be effective in doing terrorists attacks and other plans that I'm thinking of doing when the IC starts.

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Postby Aidannadia » Fri Jul 21, 2017 10:03 pm

I feel like getting up a map with claims is pretty important. Also, I've decided I can play as the Rattanakosin Dynasty in Siam. I would like to talk to GB and France about where they own in Southeast Asia.
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Aidannadia wrote:I feel like getting up a map with claims is pretty important. Also, I've decided I can play as the Rattanakosin Dynasty in Siam. I would like to talk to GB and France about where they own in Southeast Asia.

I concur. A provisional list of players, even if it isn't fully confirmed, would be a huge help.

I was bored, so I googled "Stockholm" and "steampunk," and guess what?

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Plzen wrote:
Aidannadia wrote:I feel like getting up a map with claims is pretty important. Also, I've decided I can play as the Rattanakosin Dynasty in Siam. I would like to talk to GB and France about where they own in Southeast Asia.

I concur. A provisional list of players, even if it isn't fully confirmed, would be a huge help.

I was bored, so I googled "Stockholm" and "steampunk," and guess what?


I think that's probably the first priority for the OOC. Since we've got a vague outline of what the world looks like, it's time to have people properly commit themselves so that we can hammer out the details.
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Postby Plzen » Sat Jul 22, 2017 7:59 am

“The historian is almost tempted to conclude that between 1890 and 1914 France possessed the only really skillful diplomats in Europe.”
- D. J. Goodspeed, The German Wars: 1914-1945


Since the German Reich or its equivalent never really formed, the French humiliation in 1871 didn't happen, the Second Schleswig War of 1864 didn't happen or happened differently, the United States is actively supporting European liberalism, Russia's cut into splinter states, and presumably the Austro-Prussian War of 1866 didn't happen the way it did IRL, the balance of power and the system of alliances/rivalries in Europe is probably very, very different.

How would it look like, in rough outlines? We've discussed a lot of specifics over nine pages of OOC, but having a combined, global summary would be useful.
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