Net Neutrality Protest - Thousands of Sites Join

[Ethel mermania]

..... pretty much, yes.

Sorry

Our revenge will be telling you at length how you should be running your country differently.

Typical day on NSG then, ..... ( sigh,) on this we deserve it

[Greater Cesnica]

Our revenge will be telling you at length how you should be running your country differently.

Typical day on NSG then, ..... ( sigh,) on this we deserve it

NSG, home of the civilised, am I right!?

[Dylar]

Typical day on NSG then, ..... ( sigh,) on this we deserve it

NSG, home of the civilised, am I right!?

NSG: Land of the Debates, Home of the Civilised(TM)

[Greater Cesnica]

NSG, home of the civilised, am I right!?

NSG: Land of the Debates, Home of the Civilised(TM)

*Gets DMCA'd for Copyright Infringement*

[Ethel mermania]

Typical day on NSG then, ..... ( sigh,) on this we deserve it

NSG, home of the civilised, am I right!?

Well thats one word anyway.

[Great Nepal]

So how does this affect people that live outside the U.S.?

Some companies might go bankrupt or otherwise reduce investments in new products depending on how important US market is to them (probably very important for most) because they need to pay US ISPs extortionate fee or loose American market.

[Calladan]

Just out of curiousness, where is NS hosted?

[Washington Resistance Army]

Just out of curiousness, where is NS hosted?

Australia? I think?

[Galloism]

The fact that unlimited plans aren't normal in the US always weirds me out.

On the wired side, most are. I thought you guys had data caps?

Used to be more like it.

https://www.wired.com/2016/06/sorry-tim ... ytes-home/

Data caps have been rolling out nationwide over the last couple of years, and many many plans now include them (in fact, it's one of the reasons I continuously refuse Suddenlink's offers - they have data caps on all their plans locally). My phone company theoretically has a data cap as well, but I've tested it, and they're not enforcing it.

For now.

[Minoa]

Just out of curiousness, where is NS hosted?

Australia? I think?

The website is Australian if you go by the author but it doesn't hide the fact that there are a lot of US visitors.

[Montesardo-East Adanzi]

If data caps become a thing in Mexico, I'm screwed.

[Calladan]

Australia? I think?

The website is Australian if you go by the author but it doesn't hide the fact that there are a lot of US visitors.

Well, according to IP Location finder, it is in three different places at once. Which is always good.

It's either in :-

San Francisco, Montreal or Phoenix. However San Francisco comes up three times, and the other two only come up once, so I would hazard a guess it is more likely to be that.

Or, you know, its just screwing with us and it's on the moon. Or inside Max's head.

EDIT : I tested it with somewhere I KNOW where it is hosted, and it turns out that Montreal might be a more reasonable bet.

[Ethel mermania]

Just out of curiousness, where is NS hosted?

Canada, home of the Royal Mounted Moose Police

[Greater Cesnica]

(Image)
If data caps become a thing in Mexico, I'm screwed.

Be Scared Then.

[Greater Cesnica]

Just out of curiousness, where is NS hosted?

Canada, home of the Royal Mounted Moose Police

Heheheh... If only I could get my hands on the server room and delete every single modera- wait what?

*Gets instantly shot down by Site Admins*

[Montesardo-East Adanzi]

(Image)
If data caps become a thing in Mexico, I'm screwed.

Be Scared Then.

TELMEX doesn't seem to have data caps. Yet. But, since we do what the gringos do, it won't be long until we follow down that route.
Also, poor TELMEX, I've used up to 600-900 GBs in a month. =P

[Ethel mermania]

On the wired side, most are. I thought you guys had data caps?

Used to be more like it.

https://www.wired.com/2016/06/sorry-tim ... ytes-home/

Data caps have been rolling out nationwide over the last couple of years, and many many plans now include them (in fact, it's one of the reasons I continuously refuse Suddenlink's offers - they have data caps on all their plans locally). My phone company theoretically has a data cap as well, but I've tested it, and they're not enforcing it.

For now.

Yuck, version doesnt, and apparently charter as part of the merger agreement cant. More and more I am thinking these Telco / cable provider mergers need to be unwound.

[Minoa]

On the wired side, most are. I thought you guys had data caps?

Used to be more like it.

https://www.wired.com/2016/06/sorry-tim ... ytes-home/

Data caps have been rolling out nationwide over the last couple of years, and many many plans now include them (in fact, it's one of the reasons I continuously refuse Suddenlink's offers - they have data caps on all their plans locally). My phone company theoretically has a data cap as well, but I've tested it, and they're not enforcing it.

For now.

It seems that the ISPs in the US can get away with data caps, because as far as I am aware, consumers have little to no choice between providers. How much of the US can only use the internet via dial-up?

[Sovaal]

Just out of curiousness, where is NS hosted?

Australia? I think?

Max is an Aussie, so would make sense.

[Saiwania]

Data caps aren't necessarily bad, from an ISP perspective- it ain't free to deploy stronger antennas for improved wireless or cellular service or to lay fiber or cable in the ground. It gets very expensive to maintain and do upgrades when needed. The issue for me is not whether there is a data cap or not, but whether it is reasonably big enough to cover the monthly usage of the typical consumer.

The concept of a person who uses internet more needing to pay more for that privilege- is perfectly fine in my book. 1,000 GB per month is an example of a data cap I'm happy with. The typical user who lives in my area doesn't use more than that- so it is perfectly reasonable.

I stream a lot of video and I don't approach anywhere near 1 TB in a single month. There is plenty of room to consume from my perspective, but not an unlimited amount where I could potentially place a substantial burden in terms of network congestion that could negatively impact my neighbors' cable service.

If people don't want a data cap with their internet service, then a trade off has to be made where everyone pays their ISP slightly more regardless of their actual usage. I'd rather have a data cap so that my usage is differentiated from the usage of certain bandwidth hogs -who lets admit: really ought to pay more in the first place if they want more.

100 GB a month is too small, but 1000 GB and up, definitely tolerable as a data cap.

Perhaps if 4K video becomes too common and it is a decade or so from now, the newer cap and consumer expectation will be 10,000 GB a month, but not until then! Internet- it is one of those things in life that we wish was free, but has a real cost to make it a reality.

[Ever-Wandering Souls]

I was reading the Comcast blog post about their "support" for net neutrality, and came across a gem so jaw dropping I had to make this - https://imgur.com/gallery/vYSi701

[Salandriagado]

Data caps aren't necessarily bad, from an ISP perspective- it ain't free to deploy stronger antennas for improved wireless or cellular service or to lay fiber or cable in the ground. It gets very expensive to maintain and do upgrades when needed. The issue for me is not whether there is a data cap or not, but whether it is reasonably big enough to cover the monthly usage of the typical consumer.

The concept of a person who uses internet more needing to pay more for that privilege- is perfectly fine in my book. 1,000 GB per month is an example of a data cap I'm happy with. The typical user who lives in my area doesn't use more than that- so it is perfectly reasonable.

I stream a lot of video and I don't approach anywhere near 1 TB in a single month. There is plenty of room to consume from my perspective, but not an unlimited amount where I could potentially place a substantial burden in terms of network congestion that could negatively impact my neighbors' cable service.

If people don't want a data cap with their internet service, then a trade off has to be made where everyone pays their ISP slightly more regardless of their actual usage. I'd rather have a data cap so that my usage is differentiated from the usage of certain bandwidth hogs -who lets admit: really ought to pay more in the first place if they want more.

100 GB a month is too small, but 1000 GB and up, definitely tolerable as a data cap.

Perhaps if 4K video becomes too common and it is a decade or so from now, the newer cap and consumer expectation will be 10,000 GB a month, but not until then! Internet- it is one of those things in life that we wish was free, but has a real cost to make it a reality.

Net neutrality is not (primarily) about data caps. It is about ISPs being prevented from using their defacto monopolies to censor content.

[Ethel mermania]

Data caps aren't necessarily bad, from an ISP perspective- it ain't free to deploy stronger antennas for improved wireless or cellular service or to lay fiber or cable in the ground. It gets very expensive to maintain and do upgrades when needed. The issue for me is not whether there is a data cap or not, but whether it is reasonably big enough to cover the monthly usage of the typical consumer.

The concept of a person who uses internet more needing to pay more for that privilege- is perfectly fine in my book. 1,000 GB per month is an example of a data cap I'm happy with. The typical user who lives in my area doesn't use more than that- so it is perfectly reasonable.

I stream a lot of video and I don't approach anywhere near 1 TB in a single month. There is plenty of room to consume from my perspective, but not an unlimited amount where I could potentially place a substantial burden in terms of network congestion that could negatively impact my neighbors' cable service.

If people don't want a data cap with their internet service, then a trade off has to be made where everyone pays their ISP slightly more regardless of their actual usage. I'd rather have a data cap so that my usage is differentiated from the usage of certain bandwidth hogs -who lets admit: really ought to pay more in the first place if they want more.

100 GB a month is too small, but 1000 GB and up, definitely tolerable as a data cap.

Perhaps if 4K video becomes too common and it is a decade or so from now, the newer cap and consumer expectation will be 10,000 GB a month, but not until then! Internet- it is one of those things in life that we wish was free, but has a real cost to make it a reality.

Net neutrality is not (primarily) about data caps. It is about ISPs being prevented from using their defacto monopolies to censor content.

No, the current debate in the US is about forcing content providers to pay to get their content prioritized in the isp's network.

Look at what t-mobile did. They cUT a deal with netflix so netflix streaming doesn't count against the data cap. That gives an unfair advantage to netflix over their competitors on the t-mobile network. (In the states wireless is pretty much exempt from net neutrality now).

[Philjia]

The fact that unlimited plans aren't normal in the US always weirds me out.

On the wired side, most are. I thought you guys had data caps?

In Britain? Not bloody likely. Companies can offer plans with them, in theory, but none of them bother because the whole country is only the size of Minnesota so providing fast broadband everywhere is reasonably easy. In practice you'd have to try quite hard to find a plan that isn't unlimited.

[Salandriagado]

Net neutrality is not (primarily) about data caps. It is about ISPs being prevented from using their defacto monopolies to censor content.

No, the current debate in the US is about forcing content providers to pay to get their content prioritized in the isp's network.

Look at what t-mobile did. They cUT a deal with netflix so netflix streaming doesn't count against the data cap. That gives an unfair advantage to netflix over their competitors on the t-mobile network. (In the states wireless is pretty much exempt from net neutrality now).

That's exactly what I just said.