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United Democratic Christian States
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Founded: Sep 29, 2015
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Postby United Democratic Christian States » Sat Jun 10, 2017 11:24 am

Greater Persian State wrote:
DRS Proposal: Indonesian Intervention

Acknowledging the Coup in the Indonesian Capital which deposed a brutal and tyrannic regime currently under DRS Investigation.

Recognizing the New Authority's plea for DRS assistance in recent days.

Hereby begins a DRS Peacekeeping Intervention in Indonesia to restore stability and peace, and establish a free and secure democracy.

Requires that each member state contribute to the Peacekeeping force.

States that such an intervention will have the goal of disarming militias, establishing peace on the streets, wiping out regime cells and bases within the country, capturing those under DRS investigation for war crimes, and distributing humanitarian supplies to the people of Indonesia.

AYE: Greater Persian State

NAY:

"To my knowledge the new Indonesian government hasn't called for DRS intervention, only DEU. However nonetheless Germany will vote aye"
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Greater Persian State
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Postby Greater Persian State » Sat Jun 10, 2017 12:46 pm

United Democratic Christian States wrote:
Greater Persian State wrote:
DRS Proposal: Indonesian Intervention

Acknowledging the Coup in the Indonesian Capital which deposed a brutal and tyrannic regime currently under DRS Investigation.

Recognizing the New Authority's plea for DRS assistance in recent days.

Hereby begins a DRS Peacekeeping Intervention in Indonesia to restore stability and peace, and establish a free and secure democracy.

Requires that each member state contribute to the Peacekeeping force.

States that such an intervention will have the goal of disarming militias, establishing peace on the streets, wiping out regime cells and bases within the country, capturing those under DRS investigation for war crimes, and distributing humanitarian supplies to the people of Indonesia.

AYE: Greater Persian State

NAY:

"To my knowledge the new Indonesian government hasn't called for DRS intervention, only DEU. However nonetheless Germany will vote aye"

OOC: He said DRS and DEU
Last edited by Greater Persian State on Sat Jun 10, 2017 12:48 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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United Democratic Christian States
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Postby United Democratic Christian States » Sat Jun 10, 2017 1:22 pm

Greater Persian State wrote:
United Democratic Christian States wrote:"To my knowledge the new Indonesian government hasn't called for DRS intervention, only DEU. However nonetheless Germany will vote aye"

OOC: He said DRS and DEU

OOC:I reread it...he said both.
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Orostan
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Postby Orostan » Sat Jun 10, 2017 2:15 pm

ayyy (lmao)
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Great Oyashima
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Postby Great Oyashima » Sun Jun 11, 2017 7:07 am

Nay.

Any intervention by outside forces is a direct violation of the Ishihara Doctrine and will be treated as such by Japan and the Imperial Armed Forces.
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New Metropolitan France
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Postby New Metropolitan France » Sun Jun 11, 2017 7:16 am

Aye. We also encourage the government of Japan to respect the wishes of a democratic government requesting assistance from respected international organizations.

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Puertollano
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Postby Puertollano » Sun Jun 11, 2017 1:08 pm

Aye
Senator Levi Murphy (D-MN)
Chairwoman Lilyana Wolf (R-ME)
J.P. Randy Cramp (R-TX)
Mayor Tammy Tablot (I-NV)

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Greater Persian State
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Postby Greater Persian State » Mon Jun 12, 2017 9:39 am

Zahra Roshan banged her gavel and shouted, "It passes! By a vote of 5 to 1!"
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Greater Persian State
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Postby Greater Persian State » Mon Jun 12, 2017 2:19 pm

DRS Proposal: Religious Sites Protection Act

Acknowledging that religious sites are often centers of faith and peace for communities.

Knowing that civilians often gather in religious centers in times of war.

Mourning and Acknowledging all those that died in the Attack on the Holy Mosque in Mecca

Supporting DRS Bills that have ended future use biological weapons used in the Zackaroth-Orostan War

Seeking to Amend all events of the conflict

Hereby makes major religious centers such as the Grand Mosque, St. Peter's Basilica, Norte Dame de Paris, St. Paul's Cathedral, Imam Husayn Shrine, Ranganathaswamy Temple, Dome of the Rock, Western Wall, Maya Devi Temple and more subject to DRS protection. Any attack made purposely and knowingly against such places will see DRS punishment.

NEW AMENDMENT: A DRS Panel will investigate all newly declared religious sites to determine them applicable for protection, any sites requesting protection will be audited and reviewed the same DRS Panel.

NEW AMENDMENT: Nations using such sites to house soldiers to launch attacks or to protect them from enemy reprisal shall be condemned by the DRS for abusing peaceful and protected land for military purposes. The site may see its protection revoked.

NEW AMENDMNET: Confirms that no religion will receive special or superior treatment under this act.

PASSED 4-3


This bill is open to suggestions.
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United Democratic Christian States
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Postby United Democratic Christian States » Mon Jun 12, 2017 3:05 pm

Aye
Call me Greg (my IRL name) or UDCS. Whichever works best for you.

"[28] He said to them: 'You are well aware that it is against our law for a Jew to associate with or visit a Gentile. But God has shown me that I should not call anyone impure or unclean.' "
-Acts 10:28

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Orostan
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Postby Orostan » Mon Jun 12, 2017 3:36 pm

Nay, our attack was completely justified. The Zackrothians killed hundreds of thousands in the hack of Orostani public transport systems. The Zackrothians deserved worse.
“It is difficult for me to imagine what “personal liberty” is enjoyed by an unemployed hungry person. True freedom can only be where there is no exploitation and oppression of one person by another; where there is not unemployment, and where a person is not living in fear of losing his job, his home and his bread. Only in such a society personal and any other freedom can exist for real and not on paper.” -J. V. STALIN
Ernest Hemingway wrote:Anyone who loves freedom owes such a debt to the Red Army that it can never be repaid.

Napoleon Bonaparte wrote:“To understand the man you have to know what was happening in the world when he was twenty.”

Cicero wrote:"In times of war, the laws fall silent"



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Zackaroth
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Postby Zackaroth » Mon Jun 12, 2017 4:55 pm

Aye, but would also like to add: "Nations using such sites to house soldiers to launch attacks or to protect them from enemy reprisal shall be condemned by the DRS for abusing sacred land for military purposes"

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United Democratic Christian States
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Postby United Democratic Christian States » Mon Jun 12, 2017 5:50 pm

Orostan wrote:Nay, our attack was completely justified. The Zackrothians killed hundreds of thousands in the hack of Orostani public transport systems. The Zackrothians deserved worse.

"Attacking a entire world wide community for the actions of a government can not be accepted in the 21st century...

In a strike of retaliation, you attack who attacked you. Nothing more.

this attack affected people in every country of the globe, for what? Something only the Zackarothian government did?"
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"[28] He said to them: 'You are well aware that it is against our law for a Jew to associate with or visit a Gentile. But God has shown me that I should not call anyone impure or unclean.' "
-Acts 10:28

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Greater Persian State
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Postby Greater Persian State » Mon Jun 12, 2017 6:20 pm

Orostan wrote:Nay, our attack was completely justified. The Zackrothians killed hundreds of thousands in the hack of Orostani public transport systems. The Zackrothians deserved worse.

"We are in no way endorsing the horrific actions of Zackaroth in regards to biological weapons which the DRS has acted upon, but are seeking to protect religious centers, which do not deserve attack and must be protected. It is not the position of the Speaker to comment on past affairs and make judgements upon them, but to create a better world for tomorrow."
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Fregantes Empire
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Postby Fregantes Empire » Mon Jun 12, 2017 9:24 pm

Nay
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Puertollano
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Postby Puertollano » Mon Jun 12, 2017 10:47 pm

Nay
Senator Levi Murphy (D-MN)
Chairwoman Lilyana Wolf (R-ME)
J.P. Randy Cramp (R-TX)
Mayor Tammy Tablot (I-NV)

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Greater Persian State
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Postby Greater Persian State » Tue Jun 13, 2017 5:05 am

"Why do the Fregantes and Puertollano delegates say this?"
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Orostan
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Postby Orostan » Tue Jun 13, 2017 5:21 am

Greater Persian State wrote:
Orostan wrote:Nay, our attack was completely justified. The Zackrothians killed hundreds of thousands in the hack of Orostani public transport systems. The Zackrothians deserved worse.

"We are in no way endorsing the horrific actions of Zackaroth in regards to biological weapons which the DRS has acted upon, but are seeking to protect religious centers, which do not deserve attack and must be protected. It is not the position of the Speaker to comment on past affairs and make judgements upon them, but to create a better world for tomorrow."

"The Zackrothians made an unprovoked attack on Orostan. We understand your thoughts, but the Orostani attack was more than justified given the circumstances. This bill is a thinly veiled condemnation of Orostan."

United Democratic Christian States wrote:
Orostan wrote:Nay, our attack was completely justified. The Zackrothians killed hundreds of thousands in the hack of Orostani public transport systems. The Zackrothians deserved worse.

"Attacking a entire world wide community for the actions of a government can not be accepted in the 21st century...

In a strike of retaliation, you attack who attacked you. Nothing more.

this attack affected people in every country of the globe, for what? Something only the Zackarothian government did?"


"Well, yes. In the Zackrothian hack of Orostani public transport, hundreds of thousands were killed. Emergency services were overwhelmed, and many people died of their injuries in slow and painful ways."

"What's worth more, a building, or several hundred thousand lives?"
“It is difficult for me to imagine what “personal liberty” is enjoyed by an unemployed hungry person. True freedom can only be where there is no exploitation and oppression of one person by another; where there is not unemployment, and where a person is not living in fear of losing his job, his home and his bread. Only in such a society personal and any other freedom can exist for real and not on paper.” -J. V. STALIN
Ernest Hemingway wrote:Anyone who loves freedom owes such a debt to the Red Army that it can never be repaid.

Napoleon Bonaparte wrote:“To understand the man you have to know what was happening in the world when he was twenty.”

Cicero wrote:"In times of war, the laws fall silent"



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Greater Persian State
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Postby Greater Persian State » Tue Jun 13, 2017 5:33 am

"We are in no way making any commentary on past events. We are just trying to safeguard major religious centers. We are planning to address every center of that conflict to prevent a similar event in the future."
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Orostan
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Postby Orostan » Tue Jun 13, 2017 8:25 am

Greater Persian State wrote:"We are in no way making any commentary on past events. We are just trying to safeguard major religious centers. We are planning to address every center of that conflict to prevent a similar event in the future."

"My argument still stands."
“It is difficult for me to imagine what “personal liberty” is enjoyed by an unemployed hungry person. True freedom can only be where there is no exploitation and oppression of one person by another; where there is not unemployment, and where a person is not living in fear of losing his job, his home and his bread. Only in such a society personal and any other freedom can exist for real and not on paper.” -J. V. STALIN
Ernest Hemingway wrote:Anyone who loves freedom owes such a debt to the Red Army that it can never be repaid.

Napoleon Bonaparte wrote:“To understand the man you have to know what was happening in the world when he was twenty.”

Cicero wrote:"In times of war, the laws fall silent"



#FreeNSGRojava
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Puertollano
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Postby Puertollano » Tue Jun 13, 2017 12:45 pm

"The DRS is becoming far too interventionist, that is why we will oppose this bill. Further, we would like dozens of Puertollanoan religious sites added to the list, all which aren't there."
Senator Levi Murphy (D-MN)
Chairwoman Lilyana Wolf (R-ME)
J.P. Randy Cramp (R-TX)
Mayor Tammy Tablot (I-NV)

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Postby Greater Persian State » Tue Jun 13, 2017 3:24 pm

Puertollano wrote:"The DRS is becoming far too interventionist, that is why we will oppose this bill. Further, we would like dozens of Puertollanoan religious sites added to the list, all which aren't there."

"The list presented is a brief one, and the DRS will examine more, which will certainly be included. I have received confirmation that Las Lajas Sanctuary and definitely more. as for interventionism, this is what I campaigned on and this is what I was given a mandate to do." Zahra Roshan says.
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The Underground Movement Union
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Postby The Underground Movement Union » Tue Jun 13, 2017 3:33 pm

What will the requirements be for a religious site not included on this list to be counted? Will we simply not have one and work this as a case by case scenario? Asks the North American delegate.

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Greater Persian State
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Postby Greater Persian State » Tue Jun 13, 2017 3:38 pm

The Underground Movement Union wrote:What will the requirements be for a religious site not included on this list to be counted? Will we simply not have one and work this as a case by case scenario? Asks the North American delegate.

"As a recent edit was just completed, a DRS Panel will audit requesting sites. What is the opinion of the North American delegation? As a side note, St. Paul's Cathedral will be included."

OOC: If that is not intact, just tell me and that final statement never happened.
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Postby Virrgo » Tue Jun 13, 2017 9:29 pm

Aye.

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