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by Gallia- » Wed Jun 07, 2017 5:21 am
by Laritaia » Wed Jun 07, 2017 5:24 am
Gallia- wrote:can i shoot it out of a cannon?
i want an anti-helicopter mine that can be used to interdict helicopters
so i can sent out multispectral three dimensional barrier minefields using gun- and rocket-launched jammers, anti helicopter mines, and FASCAM
by Gallia- » Wed Jun 07, 2017 5:27 am
by Gallia- » Wed Jun 07, 2017 5:49 am
by Neo-Pontic Empire » Wed Jun 07, 2017 7:57 am
by The Soodean Imperium » Wed Jun 07, 2017 10:48 am
United Earthlings wrote:Not everyone loves to hear this, but embrace the downsizing this re-scaling permits for opportunities. For ex. with less of a need for conscripts you could reorganize you’re Navy into an all volunteer service without any loss in capability {given time for transition}, in fact if budgeted right you could in theory expand the operational capabilities of the Navy by freeing up funds for naval procurement of more sophisticated platforms. Navies also tend to be along with the Air Force more technocentric, so a shift towards the volunteer side in your nation’s navy would harness its greater technical capabilities of what it’s already inclined towards. This seems to be the direction your taking your nation’s military forces anyway.
United Earthlings wrote:I read from your wiki if it’s still in effect that your nation and I quote, “In addition to a Reserve Officers' Training Corps, both the Army and the Navy offer a limited number of "contract scholarships" every year, in which they pay full tuition and allow a deferral of service until university graduation in exchange for a guarantee that the student will major in a relevant degree and serve at least four years in the military upon graduating. This system is usually used to fill highly skilled roles, such as nuclear reactor operators, military doctors, and certain engineering roles, in which a college degree is deemed necessary”. Apply this incentive on a grander scale down to your conscripts, something to the effect that those who pursue a higher skilled MOS while conscripted will be granted credit for university courses completed in their field specialty. The variable ways you could configure this could fill an entire chapter in a book.
Part 3: On the topic of “contract scholarships”, how you have it structure may be at a disincentive for your forces, with those for deferments wishing to complete university education, if this deferment is only temporary, just as said graduate would start to convert their knowledge learned in university into labor market experience and expertise, they would be pulled off the private labor market and upon reentry years later, the knowledge they had acquired may have depreciated and would need to be recouped before being put to good use.
United Earthlings wrote:Switching gears slightly on the incentive for conscript turnover rates, another method I adapted for my nation you might want to consider in some form is in allowing the conscripted individual to select not only what branch they want to serve in {if you decide to continue to use conscripts for your Navy, Army or both}, but also their service occupation. Someone who dreams of becoming a doctor, pilot, etc... will be more productively inclined even if conscripted if while conscripted they are allowed to pursue jobs and skills that match their future endeavors they wish to pursue. You can’t get more incentivized than understanding a person’s psychological motivations. As a weird Socialist State, I could even image your army having an entire departmental staff devoted to psychological motivating your conscripts.
United Earthlings wrote:Since, you touch on this a little in your posts and in your nation’s wiki page, if you’re so inclined to have a volunteer force, then it may be time to embrace it given the parameters of your nation have changed in your benefit. However, if you still feel a sentimentality towards conscription, one method might be to split the difference. Have all your active forces be all-volunteer and the reserves the conscripts, which is the method I adapted minus a few tweaks in places. For some time during the transition, your active forces will be smaller, but once the transition to a professional all-volunteer force is complete, even a smaller active force will be highly competitive not to mention eventually more economically productive per soldier as a professionally staffed military would have a higher capital to labor ratio, i.e. more firepower per soldier than a conscript one.
United Earthlings wrote:And lastly, probably not applicable to your nation from what I’ve read, but you could always increase your potential recruit base by introducing conscription to women also. If not, I’m fine with my nation having the moral high soapbox in this case.
by Greater Allidron » Wed Jun 07, 2017 11:42 am
by Neo-Pontic Empire » Wed Jun 07, 2017 11:54 am
The Soodean Imperium wrote:If by "moral high ground" you mean "moral high ground in the context of a contemporary neoliberal Western democracy," then probably.
by The Akasha Colony » Wed Jun 07, 2017 12:02 pm
Neo-Pontic Empire wrote:The Soodean Imperium wrote:If by "moral high ground" you mean "moral high ground in the context of a contemporary neoliberal Western democracy," then probably.
Conscription is a fairly new concept, the British didn't have conscription during the start of WW1 and their professional, motivated, and well drilled army made an excellent account of itself in the early battles of the war, not to mention the US never had peacetime conscription. Even then Britain didn't start conscription until 1916 and allowed it to lapse after 1920 up until 1939 where they attempted to have conscripts drafted into essentially the equivalent of the national guard rather than being full time soldiers (obviously WW2 scrapped those plans). I mean peace time conscription may be necessary depending on your strategic situation, but volunteer militaries are hardly a new concept created by neoliberals, especially in the Anglosphere where peacetime conscription was very rare.
by Neo-Pontic Empire » Wed Jun 07, 2017 12:39 pm
The Akasha Colony wrote:Conscription in the United States started over a year before the United States entered WWII, when the nation was still at peace.
by Austrasien » Wed Jun 07, 2017 1:00 pm
by The Soodean Imperium » Wed Jun 07, 2017 2:02 pm
Neo-Pontic Empire wrote:The Akasha Colony wrote:Conscription in the United States started over a year before the United States entered WWII, when the nation was still at peace.
Still not long term peacetime conscription like Sood is talking about. There is a difference between preparing for an inevitable war and drafting people when there are no signs of war on the horizon.
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by Neo-Pontic Empire » Wed Jun 07, 2017 3:19 pm
The Soodean Imperium wrote:Neo-Pontic Empire wrote:Still not long term peacetime conscription like Sood is talking about. There is a difference between preparing for an inevitable war and drafting people when there are no signs of war on the horizon.
While Menghe is not currently at war, I would hesitate to call its situation "no signs of war on the horizon." Hence my stated need for not only a large standing army but also a large and relatively high-readiness reserve force.
As far as I'm aware, all significant Northern and Western European militaries with the exception of Britain practiced conscription throughout the Cold War, and only transitioned to all-volunteer composition after the Soviet threat disappeared. Norway and Finland, as far as I can tell, never gave it up, and Sweden is getting ready to bring it back.
by Arthurista » Wed Jun 07, 2017 5:41 pm
by Allanea » Wed Jun 07, 2017 5:55 pm
by Neo-Pontic Empire » Wed Jun 07, 2017 6:04 pm
Arthurista wrote:Are major military operations inside a megacity (i.e. north of 10 mil) remotely possible without China/India-levels of manpower?
by -Celibrae- » Wed Jun 07, 2017 6:26 pm
by Neo-Pontic Empire » Wed Jun 07, 2017 6:35 pm
-Celibrae- wrote:I'm pretty sure shelling cities into oblivion makes them harder to capture because it creates more cover and places to hide, and generally makes the city more defensible.
by Austrasien » Wed Jun 07, 2017 7:06 pm
Arthurista wrote:Are major military operations inside a megacity (i.e. north of 10 mil) remotely possible without China/India-levels of manpower?
by The Soodean Imperium » Wed Jun 07, 2017 7:31 pm
Neo-Pontic Empire wrote:The Soodean Imperium wrote:
While Menghe is not currently at war, I would hesitate to call its situation "no signs of war on the horizon." Hence my stated need for not only a large standing army but also a large and relatively high-readiness reserve force.
As far as I'm aware, all significant Northern and Western European militaries with the exception of Britain practiced conscription throughout the Cold War, and only transitioned to all-volunteer composition after the Soviet threat disappeared. Norway and Finland, as far as I can tell, never gave it up, and Sweden is getting ready to bring it back.
I'm not even condemning conscription, I simply made a joke that having no conscription should give you a moral high ground over people that do, since you know forcing people to fight and die in wars generally isn't a nice thing. I don't even know why I'm still defending a position I don't care about.
-Celibrae- wrote:I'm pretty sure shelling cities into oblivion makes them harder to capture because it creates more cover and places to hide, and generally makes the city more defensible.
by The Akasha Colony » Wed Jun 07, 2017 7:47 pm
Neo-Pontic Empire wrote:-Celibrae- wrote:I'm pretty sure shelling cities into oblivion makes them harder to capture because it creates more cover and places to hide, and generally makes the city more defensible.
It also kills people, and fighting fewer people makes things easier. Especially once you consider thermobaric and incindiary munitions artillery really does help make assaulting a city easier. Besides it isn't like there aren't places to hide in an intact city.
Beyond that being willing to collapse major buildings means your soldiers don't have to spend three weeks fighting their way up the Burj Khalifa or whatever even larger buildings NS countries build.
by Husseinarti » Thu Jun 08, 2017 12:59 pm
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