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Postby New Aeyariss » Tue May 16, 2017 1:02 am

[*] Most common social view: refusal to officiate LGBT marriages, but welcomes LGBT+ members nonetheless; staunch environmentalists, advocating for whaling quotas and stricter monitoring of the mining industry; advocates of technologically advanced agricultural practices, provided they do not have worse environmental impact; refuse joining the military and don't sign up for the Selective Service System; quite silent about contraception, though they encourage use of contraception "if said method is not detestable in God's eyes"; staunchly anti-abortion and advocate for comprehensive sex education to reduce demand for abortion; " values reason as much as the next Richard Dawkins emulator next door"


You know, it is very likely that Palmyrian Kogyokism would be considered heretical by their brothers from the mainland, considering that majority of Nifonese Kogyokist Christians believe in total opposite. While I do believe that lessening LGBTQ+ stance would be possible (considering different cultural influence), I highly doubt about pacifism.

Kogyokist Chrisitanity was a religion founded by Samurai Such as Murakami Kenshin, Fujikawa no Katsuyori or Chosokame no Yorimoto, who were it's first converts. As a result, samurai was adopted as a model of the believer, and in turn Kogyokist Ethics deeply influenced Bushido. If you read what I mentioned earlier, even the way the Nifonese portray Christ - as an Emperor inspired by Rev. 11, riding on a white horse in a dress akin to the one of Nifonese Emperors, smiting his enemies - signifies just how militant this faith can be.

What the man means is that is there any times of the year like Ramadan or is it a rite to fast before a wedding or something?


I think I need to consider having one ;). A time of fasting and prayer.

Also are there any Kogoyist holy monastic orders or vows of hermitage?


There are no monastic orders, partially due to a very specific Kogyokist religious mentality. You see, for example Catholicism teaches poverty and seclusion from the world. Kogyokism does not - it is a religion with a very simple (but not simplistic) theology, maximally focused on practical application of the faith, one celebrating historicism, activism and martyrdom. The "active spirit" of this religion was in fact one of keys in forming the Kogyokist work ethic (which, unlike the protestant one Webber described, is collective oriented, not individual oriented).

The belief that riches are not something evil was very appealing to the middle class, which emerged at that time for the first time in Nifonese history, and to the samurai, majority of whom made enormous material gains as a result of the wars.
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Postby New Edom » Thu May 18, 2017 10:30 am

KOGYOKIST QUESTIONARY:

[*] Official name of the nation: The Allied States of New Edom

[*] Number of Kogyokist Christians: 366,830

[*] History of Kogyokism in your nation: As Nifonese and other orientals began to travel to New Edom in the early 20th Century, they brought their faiths with them. However due to the fact that New Edom has laws requiring Christian faith from those who own any property or hold any kind of office, Kogyokism became a popular faith over Buddhism, Shinto, Animism or other practices, and thus most orientals in New Edom practice this faith. While subject to some prejudice in earlier times (seen as possible spies or practitioners of witchcraft) they have come to be regarded as decent citizens, expatriates or emigres living in the country. Compared to their small size, this population contributes a great deal to the nation. The virtues of obedience, patience and humility make them good students and teachers, and they have served well as a sizeable proportion of persons contributing to the nation's industry and military establishments.

[*] Official political stance: "We recognize our brothers and sisters in the faith of Kogyokism, who have greatly added the flames of their faith to the light which is Christianity, the way, the truth and the light."

[*] Most common social view: Kogyokists are often seen as unconventional by the average Edomite Christian; they are seen as prim and proper, lacking in passion and devotion, and disorganized in the way that their churches arerun. Few Edomites attend such churches but regard them politely. As the Nifonese relations with New Edom become more prominent, armed forces families occasionally attend out of friendliness.
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Postby New Aeyariss » Thu May 18, 2017 12:37 pm

RELIGIOUS NAMES


In Nifonese culture, names derived from the Bible are usually used by clergy or their descendants alone. Upon becoming a pastor / deacon / bishop, a clergyman is permitted to change his name on the one coming from the Bible. Very often it is customary for a Kogyokist clergyman to take the name of his church as his surname, especially in writing - for example the famous Bishop and founder of the Godly Learning school of theology (Shingaku-shū) took name of " Shingaku Kiden) " for himself, and by that name whole Nifon knows him today.

List of so far prepared names (credits to Gigaverse ):

- Adam → 阿担 Adan
- Eve → 夏娃 Kawa
- Noah → 怒堊 Noa
|- Shem → 閃 Sen
- Ham → 含 Gan
- Japheth → 耶弗 Yafutsu
- Canaan → 迦南 Kanan
- Abraham → 圧羅漢 Atsurakan
- Lot → 律 Richi
- Isaac → 伊作 Isaku
- Jacob → 耶劫 Yakofu
- Moses → 募西 Mosai
- Aaron → 亜侖 Aron
- Samuel → 邪戊利 Shamuri
- David → 大衛 Daiei
- Jephthah → 伊扶他 Ifuta
- Solomon → 所羅門 Soramon
- Samson → 参孫 Sanson
- Gideon → 基甸 Kiden
- Jesus → 耶蘇 Iesu
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Postby McNernia » Fri May 19, 2017 3:45 pm

New Aeyariss wrote:
RELIGIOUS NAMES


In Nifonese culture, names derived from the Bible are usually used by clergy or their descendants alone. Upon becoming a pastor / deacon / bishop, a clergyman is permitted to change his name on the one coming from the Bible. Very often it is customary for a Kogyokist clergyman to take the name of his church as his surname, especially in writing - for example the famous Bishop and founder of the Godly Learning school of theology (Shingaku-shū) took name of " Shingaku Kiden) " for himself, and by that name whole Nifon knows him today.

List of so far prepared names (credits to Gigaverse ):

- Adam → 阿担 Adan
- Eve → 夏娃 Kawa
- Noah → 怒堊 Noa
|- Shem → 閃 Sen
- Ham → 含 Gan
- Japheth → 耶弗 Yafutsu
- Canaan → 迦南 Kanan
- Abraham → 圧羅漢 Atsurakan
- Lot → 律 Richi
- Isaac → 伊作 Isaku
- Jacob → 耶劫 Yakofu
- Moses → 募西 Mosai
- Aaron → 亜侖 Aron
- Samuel → 邪戊利 Shamuri
- David → 大衛 Daiei
- Jephthah → 伊扶他 Ifuta
- Solomon → 所羅門 Soramon
- Samson → 参孫 Sanson
- Gideon → 基甸 Kiden
- Jesus → 耶蘇 Iesu

I wonder has it ever been customary for second sons of nobles to be put into the church? Or are their powerful church families that hold large estates and in older days would raise units of Samurai?
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Postby Chinese Peoples » Fri May 19, 2017 7:48 pm

KOGYOKIST QUESTIONARY:

[*] Official name of the nation: Republic of China

[*] Number of Kogyokist Christians: trace

[*] History of Kogyokism in your nation: probably held by a few immigrants, but not expanding

[*] Official political stance: the government remains neutral on all religious groups

[*] Most common social view: undesirable, due to elements of Japanese culture being infused into religion
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Postby The Federation of Kendor » Sat May 20, 2017 3:57 am

New Aeyariss wrote:
[*] Most common social view: refusal to officiate LGBT marriages, but welcomes LGBT+ members nonetheless; staunch environmentalists, advocating for whaling quotas and stricter monitoring of the mining industry; advocates of technologically advanced agricultural practices, provided they do not have worse environmental impact; refuse joining the military and don't sign up for the Selective Service System; quite silent about contraception, though they encourage use of contraception "if said method is not detestable in God's eyes"; staunchly anti-abortion and advocate for comprehensive sex education to reduce demand for abortion; " values reason as much as the next Richard Dawkins emulator next door"


You know, it is very likely that Palmyrian Kogyokism would be considered heretical by their brothers from the mainland, considering that majority of Nifonese Kogyokist Christians believe in total opposite. While I do believe that lessening LGBTQ+ stance would be possible (considering different cultural influence), I highly doubt about pacifism.

Kogyokist Chrisitanity was a religion founded by Samurai Such as Murakami Kenshin, Fujikawa no Katsuyori or Chosokame no Yorimoto, who were it's first converts. As a result, samurai was adopted as a model of the believer, and in turn Kogyokist Ethics deeply influenced Bushido. If you read what I mentioned earlier, even the way the Nifonese portray Christ - as an Emperor inspired by Rev. 11, riding on a white horse in a dress akin to the one of Nifonese Emperors, smiting his enemies - signifies just how militant this faith can be.

What the man means is that is there any times of the year like Ramadan or is it a rite to fast before a wedding or something?


I think I need to consider having one ;). A time of fasting and prayer.

Also are there any Kogoyist holy monastic orders or vows of hermitage?


There are no monastic orders, partially due to a very specific Kogyokist religious mentality. You see, for example Catholicism teaches poverty and seclusion from the world. Kogyokism does not - it is a religion with a very simple (but not simplistic) theology, maximally focused on practical application of the faith, one celebrating historicism, activism and martyrdom. The "active spirit" of this religion was in fact one of keys in forming the Kogyokist work ethic (which, unlike the protestant one Webber described, is collective oriented, not individual oriented).

The belief that riches are not something evil was very appealing to the middle class, which emerged at that time for the first time in Nifonese history, and to the samurai, majority of whom made enormous material gains as a result of the wars.

Then how about my Kogyokism? Is there some heretical elements or not?
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Postby New Aeyariss » Sun May 21, 2017 11:22 am

The Federation of Kendor wrote:
New Aeyariss wrote:
You know, it is very likely that Palmyrian Kogyokism would be considered heretical by their brothers from the mainland, considering that majority of Nifonese Kogyokist Christians believe in total opposite. While I do believe that lessening LGBTQ+ stance would be possible (considering different cultural influence), I highly doubt about pacifism.

Kogyokist Chrisitanity was a religion founded by Samurai Such as Murakami Kenshin, Fujikawa no Katsuyori or Chosokame no Yorimoto, who were it's first converts. As a result, samurai was adopted as a model of the believer, and in turn Kogyokist Ethics deeply influenced Bushido. If you read what I mentioned earlier, even the way the Nifonese portray Christ - as an Emperor inspired by Rev. 11, riding on a white horse in a dress akin to the one of Nifonese Emperors, smiting his enemies - signifies just how militant this faith can be.



I think I need to consider having one ;). A time of fasting and prayer.



There are no monastic orders, partially due to a very specific Kogyokist religious mentality. You see, for example Catholicism teaches poverty and seclusion from the world. Kogyokism does not - it is a religion with a very simple (but not simplistic) theology, maximally focused on practical application of the faith, one celebrating historicism, activism and martyrdom. The "active spirit" of this religion was in fact one of keys in forming the Kogyokist work ethic (which, unlike the protestant one Webber described, is collective oriented, not individual oriented).

The belief that riches are not something evil was very appealing to the middle class, which emerged at that time for the first time in Nifonese history, and to the samurai, majority of whom made enormous material gains as a result of the wars.

Then how about my Kogyokism? Is there some heretical elements or not?


None seen so far ;).
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Postby New Aeyariss » Wed May 31, 2017 3:50 pm

THE YAMABITO
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Image of the old Kogyokist warrior monk.


Yamabito ( 山人 lit. "people of the mountains") is the form of monasticism native to Kogyokist Christianity, far different from the one practiced by Catholic and / or Orthodox Churches. It's founder was a former Buddhist Monk and sohei Ishida Katsumoto, who converted to Christianity while fighting alongside Lord Murakami. Deeply moved and inspired to preach the Gospel, Katsumoto however wanted to dedicate his entire life to Christ. After returning to his home city, he found however that it was hardly possible to create a true spirituality among the newly dominant merchant class. Dissatisfied, he retreated into the mountains alongside a group of followers, to found first community of the Yamabito.

The movement has developed over the ages when the individual communities grouped together, forming bigger societies co-existing together in the mountains. The very form of the Kogyokist monasticism is very different from the one practiced by Catholics or the Orthodox; for example the traditional vows of celibacy or obedience are not taken, and it is perfectly fine for the Yamabito to marry and have children. Religious habits are rarely worn, and if so only for the ceremonial purposes, except the ceremonial head scarf, which is usually in either white or olive color.

The principles upon which the Yamabito communities were organized are:

- Relocation to far, distant places.
- Mutual sharing of resources and hospitality to all people
- Thoughtful, prayerful, simple and calm life.
- Practical engagement and support for the poor.
- Rejection of use of high technology.
- Peacemaking, and fighting evil if need be.

The last point is what the Yamabito communities are extremely well known for - for the Kogyokist monks, martial arts are a tool of spiritual development as much as prayer and work. Traditionally they have been using a naginata, but in the modern times, it is common for the male monks to undergo a militia training, not to mention the fact that many of them tend to have experience in the Imperial Nifonese Army, thus forming quality light infantry units geared for asymmetrical warfare. A warrior monk unit is known as konsha and consists of all militia trained members of the community. It has also became customary for the communities to send "volunteers" to fight against various "oni driven" forces across the globe.
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Postby Zhouran » Wed May 31, 2017 6:18 pm

New Aeyariss wrote:is the form of monasticism native to Kogyokist Christianity, far different from the one practiced by Catholic and / or Orthodox Churches.


From what I know, there were Orthodox Christians who did engage in conflict, although I'm not sure if it was priests only or if the monks fought with their priests.

Also, the Yamabito wouldn't really be the only one of their kinds as they would be comparable to the Teutonic Order, Knights Templar, and Knights Hostpitaller (sadly, those three groups aren't the armed orders they once were).
It has also became customary for the communities to send "volunteers" to fight against various "oni driven" forces across the globe.

Since the Yamabito monks reject modern tech, how would they travel across the globe to fight as volunteers? Also, wouldn't they need technology to help them fight in foreign land?
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Since the Yamabito monks reject modern tech, how would they travel across the globe to fight as volunteers? Also, wouldn't they need technology to help them fight in foreign land?


It is fully permissible for them to use technology to fight, they just do not let it affect their lives.
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New Aeyariss wrote:It is fully permissible for them to use technology to fight, they just do not let it affect their lives.

Reminds me of the Amish.

Also, do Yamabito monks who volunteer to fight in foreign conflicts side with other Christians of other churches, eg. Orthodox, Coptic, Assyrian, etc.?

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Also, do Yamabito monks who volunteer to fight in foreign conflicts side with other Christians of other churches, eg. Orthodox, Coptic, Assyrian, etc.?


And anyone they view as "forces of the oni".
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Postby McNernia » Thu Jun 01, 2017 11:32 am

New Aeyariss wrote:
Also, do Yamabito monks who volunteer to fight in foreign conflicts side with other Christians of other churches, eg. Orthodox, Coptic, Assyrian, etc.?


And anyone they view as "forces of the oni".

Oni means demons in Japanese if I remember correctly.
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Postby New Aeyariss » Thu Jun 01, 2017 1:30 pm

Oni means demons in Japanese if I remember correctly.


Yes, it does. This is the term used to Satan and his demons.
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KOGYOKIST QUESTIONARY:

[*] Official name of the nation: The Grand Kingdom of Novorossitov

[*] Number of Kogyokist Christians: 549,830

[*] History of Kogyokism in your nation: In 1903, the first documented Nifonese/Nihonese immigrants came to Novorossitov, in minuscule amounts, mainly through the Wanotochi-Novorossitov border. Most of them were Buddhists seeking a better life. As the steady trickle of Nifonese immigrants grew, a few Kogyokists came with, until 1 in every 10 Nifonese immigrants to Novorossitov was a Christian. This would soon come in handy, as a revolution by the Fasces Party, soon to be known as the Fascist Party, ended the Imperial government's reign and passed a number of laws, one of which was banning all non-Abrahamic religions, which included Buddhism. The few Kogyokists acted as "prophets" to the other Nifonese, convincing many to convert, while the rest converted to other sects of Christianity, became Atheist, and/or in some cases, Jewish.

Kogyokism grew stronger over the years as more Nifonese immigrants came to Novorossitov, spreading their religion across the entire nation. At one point they had as many as 1,000,000 followers. The Orthodox Fascist government viewed the alien sect of Christianity with discontent and passed a number of laws in 1952 limiting the religion, shackling it to only the provinces that bordered Wanotochi, and allowing construction of churches in Nifonese-majority provinces only. This essentially killed the religion, as no province was majority Nifonese. The religion buckled under these constraints until 1957, when the Fascist government was ousted from power thanks to an Orthodox Church-supported military coup. As a new theocratic government took its position, they considered doing away with Kogyokism just like they had done with Judaism, but they were appealed by a former Kantoku who convinced them (By the grace of God, according to Kogyokists.) to allow Kogyokism in Novorossitov. Kogyokism reestablished, or simply reused, in some cases, their churches and thrived, though they had a significantly smaller following. They entered a golden age when the Democracy of New Russia was (re)created out of the Theocracy's ashes, with Kogyokism peaking at 800,000 followers, and then declining to its current state when the Imperial government-in-exile reestablished their nation. (Remember them?) Kogyokism is now a small, yet thriving and vibrant, Christian sect scattered across the nation and respected as yet another religion in Novorossitov's melting pot.

[*] Official political stance: The Kogyokists are dominated by 2 political parties:

1) The aptly named Kogyokist Party, a member of the political bloc, the Alliance for a Christian Novorossitov. Conservative Right-wing party with Christian Kogyokist and democratic values.
2) The rather small, hard-line Kogyokist and anti-LGBT Dominionist Adan & Kawa Union, despite its name, it is not a political bloc, nor is it a member of any.

[*] Most common social view: Mainly Conservative and/or Christian right. They vary on the issues of contraceptives, LGBT people, abortion, and Dominion Theology.


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Postby McNernia » Thu Jun 01, 2017 7:21 pm

New Aeyariss wrote:
Oni means demons in Japanese if I remember correctly.


Yes, it does. This is the term used to Satan and his demons.

So Kogyoists purge other Christians?
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Postby New Aeyariss » Fri Jun 02, 2017 2:03 pm

So Kogyoists purge other Christians?


Kogyokists themselves are so decentralized that they usually do not have power to do so. There exist severe differences in terms of doctrine between separate churches even though they all adhere to some common heritage.
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Postby New Aeyariss » Wed Jun 28, 2017 4:30 pm

Sensei Oyama is about to do a little course of Kogyokist martial arts on Setsuzoku social networks. Feel free to claim that your characters use the style described in the posts ;)!
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OOC: While this is meant to be a glorified bump, I wrote this letter out of boredom for purpose of imagining how how Kogyokist theology - especially considering that it is greatly influenced by Asian mindset - could look like. As a note, Tangzhi = Confucius, Yangzhi = Xunzhi, Zhaozi = Laozhi.

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EMPEROR KOGYOKU'S LETTER TO THE ASIANS;


To my dearest and most beloved subject across the realm;

Since my earliest days you have known me to be pious by all means. I visited temples of the kami where I offered incense and prayers to various gods. I studied the teachings of Sakayumi and sought wisdom of the Buddhas, learning various sutras by heart. I studied the teachings of Tangzhi, Yangzhi and Zhaozhi with great devotion, hoping to secure their wisdom for myself. But all that time, I have discovered insufficiency of their teachings, and each of them was lacking. And I knew that to discern a true Dō, we must follow the Tangzhi's suggestion: "To study and not think is a waste. To think and not study is dangerous."

The teachings about the kami are so superstitious that it is hard to comprehend them, and every man can easily prove that they are false by merely studying the stories of gods. For various chronicles claim that the kami are eight million, an untold number. But at the same time their uncountable numbers create merely contradiction and chaos. Every human being is always born with a firm belief that contradiction is always false. Since none of the kami holds authority over another, how can there be truth or order? Turning away from the kami, the wise sages of Wenchuan enlightened my mind. For Zhaozhi wrote "There is Being that is all-inclusive and that existed before Heaven and Earth. Calm, indeed, and incorporeal! It is alone and changeless!" Yet as soon as I read his works, I understood that he gotten the nature of do incorrectly. For if the being of such power is origin of all things, how can it be that it never attempted to communicate with us, to reveal us his virtues? And likewise I discovered that the ancient sages of Wenchuan knew that there exists only one sovereign of heaven, to whom they offered border sacrifice for remission of sins; yet the faith in him gradually waned as the greedy Emperors first stripped him of his personality, making him impersonal "heaven", then made him plural.

I have studied the path of Sakayumi in great detail, yet I found them insufficient. It has karma as it's law, but no lawgiver. We know from teachings of the ancient sages that Dō generated the virtue; and virtue generated the law to chastise those who refuse to lead the virtuous life. Where did, then karma came from and who put it into motion? They taught me that I could escape the circle of samsara through Enlightenment, by avoiding all the desires; yet isn't a desire for Enlightenment still a desire? Isn't a desire for all the virtues that the ancient sages taught us, desire for humanness, benevolence or filial piety, a bad thing? On what basis could there exist any virtuous teaching, if there is no origin of the virtue? And if sole way to attain salvation was to destroy self, then how Sakayumi's self came into being? Thus I threw the sutras of Sakayumi away, searching for a way to understand the do.

Then I met a man who came from Wenchuan. He explained to me that in faraway land of Israel, Dō became flesh and walked among us. For the Heavenly Father understood that time had come to liberate humanity from it's own sins, sent down his own begotten son Iesu Kirishtu to perform one, final sacrifice for our sins. The border sacrifice ceremonies that the Ancient sages of Wenchuan performed were nothing else than announcements of his death on the cross. For so long, we were calling on the name of Amida Buddha to save us; but we asked wrong kami to save us. For in Iesu the Heavenly Sovereign alone is salvation, and who truly acknowledges himself as a sinner unable to save himself, and believes in his ultimate sacrifice, shall live the rest of his days with the Heavenly Sovereign!

I read his sutras and they captivated me entirely. For finally I understood what the ancient sages of Wenchuan had only imperfect knowledge about, and fullness of the Lord of Heaven has been manifested before my very eyes. With tears I read about the betrayal and crucifixion of Iesu the Heavenly Sovereign, and his resurrection. Thus I proclaim that from now on, I shall only worship the Heavenly Father; his son and the holy spirit.

I imply you, all my subjects to follow the four great laws of heavenly order.

The first is no wanting, for the thirteenth chapter of the letter to Hebrews says "5 Let your conversation be without covetousness; and be content with such things as ye have: for he hath said, I will never leave thee, nor forsake thee." When your heart is obsessed with something and you covet it, your thoughts become distorted. Distorted thoughts are root of virtuous behaviour. Be ye thus content with what you have; if you are rich, enjoy your goods. If you are poor, know that riches are not everything in this life, and lead a simple and happy life.

The second is no doing, for the sixth chapter of sutra of Matthew says "25 Therefore I say unto you, Take no thought for your life, what ye shall eat, or what ye shall drink; nor yet for your body, what ye shall put on. Is not the life more than meat, and the body than raiment? 26 Behold the fowls of the air: for they sow not, neither do they reap, nor gather into barns; yet your heavenly Father feedeth them. Are ye not much better than they?" The effort needed to hold a direction is abandoned, and there is simply action and reaction.Thus walk the Way of Effortless Action, and accept whatever Heavenly Father gives you, weather it is good or bad, all the time in harmony with him.

The third is no piousness for the sixth chapter of sutra of Hosea says "6 For I desired mercy, and not sacrifice; and the knowledge of God more than burnt offerings." Desire not to have your good deeds proclaimed across the realm, but do them for Heavenly Father's sake. Do what is right to bring people to the truth, but not for sake of your own reputation. The rites are for transmission of virtue, but the true faith is in man's heart. A rite without inner love is as a fish outside the water. This is the way of no piousness.

The fourth, and final, is no judgement, but love the Lord of Heaven, and do not do to your fellow man what you would not like him do to you, regardless of who he is; for the Emperor and lowest burakumin will face the same judgment when Iesu Tenno Heika returns to judge this world. If you need to make a verdict, do it not by yours, but by heaven's standards, for each time you judge, you are yourself judged.

Those commands I give you and recommend, for I know that without respect of the Heavenly Father, Iesu the Heavenly Sovereign, and the holy spirit, there can be no virtue in a nation, and the four calamities will fall on my realm. I implore you then to throw away the false kami and buddhas, and embrace one true Shin, the Dō of the universe that rules over heavens. May his blessings be with you all!
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Postby Feari Teikoku » Sat Jul 01, 2017 7:13 am

Well this is a very interesting read since you managed to make a 100% Japanized Asianized version of Christian Protestantism which honestly makes it a bit distinct since when people talk about Japanese Christianity, Catholicism is the thing that most often pops into mind since it happened in Japan well. historically.

Actually ages ago as a showerthought it came to me that Protestantism is the easiest Christian denomination you can Asianize since it is not that dependent on cultural rubric, liturgy and practice than Catholicism and Eastern Orthodoxy, indigenous ritual and practice can be developed independently by followers through independent church administration and Sola Scriptura interpretations.

Honestly, as it seems you have a questionary asking the nation how many Kogyoist Christians are there, their history, other stuff etc, wouldn't it hurt you to make an "Organization and Adherents" Section where you tell where your members are located in other countries in the world, their organization like this = https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholic_ ... ganisation so that people will have an idea of how prevalent this Kogyoist Christianity is, how many members it has, how widespread it is. Just asking though, no need to follow :)

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Postby New Aeyariss » Sat Jul 01, 2017 7:34 am

Well this is a very interesting read since you managed to make a 100% Japanized Asianized version of Christian Protestantism which honestly makes it a bit distinct since when people talk about Japanese Christianity, Catholicism is the thing that most often pops into mind since it happened in Japan well. historically.


At the same time, there were attempts to develop genuinely Asian Christianity, though they did not happen in Japan but China (work of Mattheo Ricci should be here a good example). Ricci wore himself as a Confucian scholar and wrote such treatises as "True identity of Lord of Heaven", also attempting to get to Chinese elites by providing them with Western Education, mathematics, scientific knowledge, etc.

Kogyokist Christianity has been almost since the beginning an indigenous movement that also had backing of a powerful Daimyo (Murakami Kenshin) who, aside from being a devout believer himself, seen it as a force that can depose Shinto-Buddhism (at that time those two were one) - considering the fact that Buddhist clergy tried to put a halt to his vision of economic, political and cultural reform. Under his patronage Kogyokist Christianity spread like wildfire.

My vision here was to create something that would retain the theological orthodoxy of Protestantism and Biblical doctrines; at the same time interpret them through lens of Asian culture.

Actually ages ago as a showerthought it came to me that Protestantism is the easiest Christian denomination you can Asianize since it is not that dependent on cultural rubric, liturgy and practice than Catholicism and Eastern Orthodoxy, indigenous ritual and practice can be developed independently by followers through independent church administration and Sola Scriptura interpretations.


Many scholars of comparative religions have actually compared certain forms of Japanese Buddhism (coming mostly from the Jodo tradition) with Protestantism, considering that both traditions have firm emphasis on historicism and feature the concept of salvation by grace of a deity (though deities that save are different). I imagined that this concept would greatly influence the development of Kogyokist Christianity, which would just need to change "Amida Buddha" to "Iesu Kirishtu".

If I remember correctly one of Meiji era Christian writers actually used to compare Nicheren to Martin Luther of the West.

Honestly, as it seems you have a questionary asking the nation how many Kogyoist Christians are there, their history, other stuff etc, wouldn't it hurt you to make an "Organization and Adherents" Section where you tell where your members are located in other countries in the world, their organization like this = https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholic_ ... ganisation so that people will have an idea of how prevalent this Kogyoist Christianity is, how many members it has, how widespread it is. Just asking though, no need to follow :)


It is actually a decent idea! Thank you, I will do it.
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Postby Feari Teikoku » Sat Jul 01, 2017 7:44 am

KOGYOKIST QUESTIONARY:

[*] Official name of the nation: Holy Empire of Feari Teikoku

[*] Number of Kogyokist Christians: >5,000-10,000 or even lower by estimates. It is even unsure whether Kogyokist Protestantism exists in Feari Teikoku due to the very small amount of Nihonese immigrants. If Kogyokist Christians can be found in the country, they are probably located in fringe areas or in small islands near the maritime borders with Nifon.

[*] History of Kogyokism in your nation: Kogyokist Christianity is a small Christian denomination brought in to the country by limited small Nihonese immigration. Its influence and its numbers remain small due to the small numbers of adherents and difficulties in proselytization as well as a difficult socio-political climate for it to flourish.

[*] Official political stance: The Feari government declares itself to be tolerant to all religions and the religious belief and consciences of its citizens as well as a separation of Church and State though in practice the Feari government shows favoritism towards Eastern Orthodoxy and other like-minded faiths such as Roman Catholicism. This is sensible practice as the majority of the population are Orthodox Christians.

Evangelical Protestant missions in the country had always been a difficult issue as Protestantism is viewed as aberrant by the government and sympathizes with the Feari Orthodox Church. However, even without political restrictions, Protestant evangelization has proven to be difficult.

Specifically however for Kogyokist Christianity the government has not imposed any kind of restrictions probably due to its small size and limited presence even though the government has shown itself to be willing to restrict certain Protestant and Restorationist denominations such as its ban on some South Korean and Filipino Christian churches on 2007.

[*] Most common social view: Even though the majority of Fearis are Christians and are somewhat conservative, the perception of Kogyokist Christianity (when specifically asked about it, as most Fearis seem to possess very little knowledge about the denomination) is tarnished due to both its Protestantism and its distinct Nihonese nature.

Protestantism is seen by most Fearis as a heretical and distorted version of Christianity. Also unhelpful is the denomination's Nihonese identity as racial and ethnic tension and divide between the Fearis and the Nihonese (Japanese) and Koreans is still an issue in Feari Teikoku. Outside of religious and ethnic objections, a lot of Fearis are uncomfortable with Nihon's attitude on certain topics such as the LGBT seen by some Fearis as too conservative.

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Postby Feari Teikoku » Sat Jul 01, 2017 8:02 am

New Aeyariss wrote:At the same time, there were attempts to develop genuinely Asian Christianity, though they did not happen in Japan but China (work of Mattheo Ricci should be here a good example). Ricci wore himself as a Confucian scholar and wrote such treatises as "True identity of Lord of Heaven", also attempting to get to Chinese elites by providing them with Western Education, mathematics, scientific knowledge, etc.


One thing i was always impressed with the Christian faith is its ability to adapt to a universal cultures and traditions. But it didn't also happen as Ricci was stopped by other orders who blamed him to acceding to much to Chinese pagan beliefs, something like that. It was the Chinese Rites controversy. And yes he wrote something like that in a neo-confucian fashion even dressed like a Buddhist monk. However that controversy was resolved in something like 1960s when Pope Pius said it was ok and since then Korean and Chinese Catholics now do the jesa rite.

New Aeyariss wrote:Kogyokist Christianity has been almost since the beginning an indigenous movement that also had backing of a powerful Daimyo (Murakami Kenshin) who, aside from being a devout believer himself, seen it as a force that can depose Shinto-Buddhism (at that time those two were one) - considering the fact that Buddhist clergy tried to put a halt to his vision of economic, political and cultural reform. Under his patronage Kogyokist Christianity spread like wildfire.

My vision here was to create something that would retain the theological orthodoxy of Protestantism and Biblical doctrines; at the same time interpret them through lens of Asian culture.


Lol.. you should have named him Rurouni Kenshin to make more obvious reference....... by the way this could make for a good alternate history "What if Japan became Christian in the Sengoku Period"? I thought about it and people discussed about it but it's going to be a bit hard since Japan's political structure is centered on Shinto theology like the Emperor being a God.
The only way I can imagine Japan being Christian in the Sengoku Jidai was if a powerful clan promoted it (like you did) as the Soga clan promoted Buddhism back and syncretize with Shinto to give an excuse for the Emperor.

I don't know if you're RPing as RL Japan or an alternate history version but a Christian Japan with the same RL history would need to find a Biblical excuse for the Emperor and imperial elite like make him a descendant of Jesus Christ, or a divinely appointed ruler by God, something like that.

And also I'm always interested in imagining what would religions like Christianity and Islam look like if they established themselves in places they did not historically like an Asianized Sinicized, Koreanized, Japanized version of Christianity and here it is your work.

Many scholars of comparative religions have actually compared certain forms of Japanese Buddhism (coming mostly from the Jodo tradition) with Protestantism, considering that both traditions have firm emphasis on historicism and feature the concept of salvation by grace of a deity (though deities that save are different). I imagined that this concept would greatly influence the development of Kogyokist Christianity, which would just need to change "Amida Buddha" to "Iesu Kirishtu".

If I remember correctly one of Meiji era Christian writers actually used to compare Nicheren to Martin Luther of the West.


Though I'm not a scholar or an academic to validate this or know how much of this is true, honestly since a lot of comparative religion can be sometimes sketchy, people sometimes make a lot of parallelisms between religions like when Jesus somehow was a clone of Osiris or Horus, this is nonetheless a very interesting read that I haven't heard of before.
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Postby New Aeyariss » Sat Jul 01, 2017 8:23 am

One thing i was always impressed with the Christian faith is its ability to adapt to a universal cultures and traditions. But it didn't also happen as Ricci was stopped by Jesuits who blamed him to acceding to much to Chinese pagan beliefs, something like that. It was the Chinese Rites controversy. And yes he wrote something like that in a neo-confucian fashion even dressed like a Buddhist monk. However that controversy was resolved in something like 1960s when Pope Pius said it was ok and since then Korean and Chinese Catholics now do the jesa rite.


Well yeah, he was torpedoed by the Vatican. Interesting element about the Chinese rites controversy is, though, that Emperor Kangxi wrote several poems about Christ's death and resurrection. Weather he was Christian or not, they were a real masterpiece and I used one of them in one of my earlier descriptions of Nemawashist philosophy.

Lol.. you should have named him Rurouni Kenshin to make more obvious reference....... by the way this could make for a good alternate history "What if Japan became Christian in the Sengoku Period"? I thought about it and people discussed about it but it's going to be a bit hard since Japan's political structure is centered on Shinto theology like the Emperor being a God.
The only way I can imagine Japan being Christian in the Sengoku Jidai was if a powerful clan promoted it (like you did) as the Soga clan promoted Buddhism back and syncretize with Shinto to give an excuse for the Emperor.


Well the fact that Murakami's major enemy in the Ojin war (1498-1505) was a clan that was deeply known for it's adherence to esoteric Buddhism from Shigon school. The war between Sato and Murakami clans, spakred over the debate weather Shogun's son (from a Murakami mother) or Shogun's brother (from a Sato mother and a buddhist monk) shall succeed the currently reigning Shogun. The dispute erupted into a major war that left Kiyosu in ruins and set the entire Nifon ablaze, beginning the Asuka period (equivalent of RL Sengoku period), named due to evacuation of the Imperial court to the castle of Asuka.

Kenshin at the same time had little issue with using Tanzism (notConfucianism) as a vehicle on which Christianity drove into Nifon. Several early preachers were former Tanzist scholars who rejected neotanzism in favour of reinterpreting the tanzist classics in the light of the Bible. Result of what they begun is currently Nemawashi.

I don't know if you're RPing as RL Japan or an alternate history version but a Christian Japan with the same RL history would need to find a Biblical excuse for the Emperor and imperial elite like make him a descendant of Jesus Christ, or a divinely appointed ruler by God, something like that.


I am RPing Nifon - a fictional land inspired by RL Japan. That said, about the justification of the Imperial Rule, Confucius comes to our relief again. Ancient Chinese had an idea of "Mandate of Heaven' that actually parallels the Biblical concept of authority. Thus all that remains to be done is to add "nly Father" and the job has been done.

And also I'm always interested in imagining what would religions like Christianity and Islam look like if they established themselves in places they did not historically like an Asianized Sinicized, Koreanized, Japanized version of Christianity and here it is your work.


I have been tempted to try doing Hindu Christianity once, but no time as now ;). Still yeah, it is a fascinating task.

Though I'm not a scholar or an academic to validate this or know how much of this is true, honestly since a lot of comparative religion can be sometimes sketchy, people sometimes make a lot of parallelisms between religions like when Jesus somehow was a clone of Osiris or Horus, this is nonetheless a very interesting read that I haven't heard of before.


It is less about them copying each other as much as both possessing very similar mindset focusing on belief that you do not attain salvation by your own deeds, but rather by belief in some deity.
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Postby Feari Teikoku » Sat Jul 01, 2017 9:12 am

New Aeyariss wrote:Well yeah, he was torpedoed by the Vatican. Interesting element about the Chinese rites controversy is, though, that Emperor Kangxi wrote several poems about Christ's death and resurrection. Weather he was Christian or not, they were a real masterpiece and I used one of them in one of my earlier descriptions of Nemawashist philosophy.


Didn't know about that either but a lot of Chinese Emperors often ignored have sketchy religious affiliations like there was one Chinese Emperor I remember who wrote poems of praise to Allah and Islam also. The poems he wrote in honor of Mohammed are still in display in mosques in China today. Of course you can't allow there to be Muslim and Christian Chinese Emperors as current historiography wouldn't allow because our CCP treats them very respectably and well today.

New Aeyariss wrote:Well the fact that Murakami's major enemy in the Ojin war (1498-1505) was a clan that was deeply known for it's adherence to esoteric Buddhism from Shigon school. The war between Sato and Murakami clans, spakred over the debate weather Shogun's son (from a Murakami mother) or Shogun's brother (from a Sato mother and a buddhist monk) shall succeed the currently reigning Shogun. The dispute erupted into a major war that left Kiyosu in ruins and set the entire Nifon ablaze, beginning the Asuka period (equivalent of RL Sengoku period), named due to evacuation of the Imperial court to the castle of Asuka.

Kenshin at the same time had little issue with using Tanzism (notConfucianism) as a vehicle on which Christianity drove into Nifon. Several early preachers were former Tanzist scholars who rejected neotanzism in favour of reinterpreting the tanzist classics in the light of the Bible. Result of what they begun is currently Nemawashi.

I am RPing Nifon - a fictional land inspired by RL Japan. That said, about the justification of the Imperial Rule, Confucius comes to our relief again. Ancient Chinese had an idea of "Mandate of Heaven' that actually parallels the Biblical concept of authority. Thus all that remains to be done is to add "nly Father" and the job has been done


Oh so you're RPing a fictional not-Japan pseudo-Japanese Japan? Oh interesting. Explains the lack of hentai and anime, any decent RP of RL Japan will surely gloss over the modern pop culture. (lol) I thought that the Asuka period was the real Asuka period first when Buddhism was introduced and the presence of too many Japanese-sounding names of too many leaders events and ideologies feel like I've been thrown to another world~ :).

I've always seen the Mandate of Heaven as an interesting concept, outside of religious reasons since it can be interpreted as an early democratic term limit, giving the right of rebellion in times of a shitty Emperor though that's for another story.

New Aeyariss wrote:I have been tempted to try doing Hindu Christianity once, but no time as now ;). Still yeah, it is a fascinating task.


Actually adding in Hindu elements in Christianity would be nice, but in RL something like that happened. St. Thomas according to tradition evangelized in India and built a Church that still survives in today so India had a strong Christian tradition. The Churches he established still survived today that use the West Syriac Rite and retained a lot of Indian traditions such as using their own liturgy - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christianity_in_India#Early_Christianity_in_India

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