It was. The Taliban and Al-Qaeda were a part of the greater agglomeration of Islamists working under the banner of the Mujaheddin. There were others too, but al-Qaeda's initial inception is indeed to fight the Soviets in Afghanistan.
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by Olerand » Thu May 25, 2017 3:29 pm
Free Rhenish States wrote:You're French, without faith, probably godless, liberal without any traditional values or respect for any faith whatsoever
by Olerand » Thu May 25, 2017 3:30 pm
Uxupox wrote:Olerand wrote:Al-Qaeda the institution or Al-Qaeda the thought?
The problem with how the United States handles terrorism is actually precisely this. There is no connection made between terrorism the ideology, and terrorism the insurgent groups. That's why America plays wack-a-mole with terrorists. "Beat" them in Afghanistan, fight them in Iraq, "beat" them in Iraq, fight them in Syria, "beat" them in Syria, fight them in Libya, "beat" them in Libya, fight them in Mali, "beat" them in Mali, fight them in Nigeria, "beat" them in Nigeria, fight them in Somalia, "beat" them in Somalia, fight them in Pakistan, and so on and so forth until eternity. I want to end this for good, not walk a mole.
Though I do suppose this is excellent business for the American military-industrial complex. So maybe if I were America, I wouldn't want to solve this either.
United States isn't in NIgeria nor in Mali. It's presence in Somalia is very minor as part of AFRICOM it's only purpose is to provide organization and training support for the local forces in the area.
Free Rhenish States wrote:You're French, without faith, probably godless, liberal without any traditional values or respect for any faith whatsoever
by Uxupox » Thu May 25, 2017 3:33 pm
Olerand wrote:Uxupox wrote:
United States isn't in NIgeria nor in Mali. It's presence in Somalia is very minor as part of AFRICOM it's only purpose is to provide organization and training support for the local forces in the area.
The US is, indirectly, in Mali, it supports the French presence there logistically, and rather heavily at that. As for the countries that I gave, I gave those as rhetorical examples, not as actual examples or a chronological list. The US hasn't "beat" the terrorists anywhere, really, and it fought them in Somalia (a little) and Pakistan (and Yemen) before Syria.
by Olerand » Thu May 25, 2017 3:33 pm
Uxupox wrote:Olerand wrote:The US is, indirectly, in Mali, it supports the French presence there logistically, and rather heavily at that. As for the countries that I gave, I gave those as rhetorical examples, not as actual examples or a chronological list. The US hasn't "beat" the terrorists anywhere, really, and it fought them in Somalia (a little) and Pakistan (and Yemen) before Syria.
168 tons of equipment is not "heavily" at all. From a logistician's standpoint it's miraculously very minor.
Free Rhenish States wrote:You're French, without faith, probably godless, liberal without any traditional values or respect for any faith whatsoever
by Uxupox » Thu May 25, 2017 3:35 pm
by Olerand » Thu May 25, 2017 3:36 pm
Free Rhenish States wrote:You're French, without faith, probably godless, liberal without any traditional values or respect for any faith whatsoever
by Gauthier » Thu May 25, 2017 5:00 pm
Ifreann wrote:Meanwhile, in the Manchester Attacks(?) Megathread
"We need radical, Hitler-esque policies to make more white babies"
Fucking gods, NSG, this is bad even for you.
by KMS Prinz Eugen » Thu May 25, 2017 8:33 pm
Tolerant Fellow wrote:Vassenor wrote:
I am interested in seeing what data you are basing these hypotheses on.
White babies, will, for the first time ever, be the minority in America in 2017.
http://www.npr.org/sections/ed/2016/07/ ... ensus-says
Minority and immigrant children are the fastest growing.
https://www.childtrends.org/indicators/ ... -children/
Muslims will outpace Christians by 2035.
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/musli ... le/2619398
Merkel wishes to bring in 12 million non-white migrants.
http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/765 ... 12-million
Scientists have determined that humans will be almost entirely brown by 2050.
https://mic.com/articles/87359/national ... .oRQGc2Qr7
Interracial marriage and relationships are growing.
http://www.pewsocialtrends.org/2012/02/ ... rmarriage/
Pope encourages Europeans to not have children to prevent 'overpopulation' while at the same time promoting open borders because 'muh pensions'.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world ... 12676.html
http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing- ... ter-sermon
Whites are being targeted by the MSM to not have children.
https://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/05/styl ... ubz=0&_r=0
by United Muscovite Nations » Thu May 25, 2017 8:38 pm
by Conserative Morality » Thu May 25, 2017 8:42 pm
United Muscovite Nations wrote:Jesus, this is inaccurate. Join a MENA group, and you will see how radicalization really does happen, unfortunately (though, the mods will hopefully ban the radicalized individuals). It usually starts with a resentment toward Western values. A lot of European Muslims talk surprisingly like the Alt-Right.
by United Muscovite Nations » Thu May 25, 2017 8:48 pm
Conserative Morality wrote:United Muscovite Nations wrote:Jesus, this is inaccurate. Join a MENA group, and you will see how radicalization really does happen, unfortunately (though, the mods will hopefully ban the radicalized individuals). It usually starts with a resentment toward Western values. A lot of European Muslims talk surprisingly like the Alt-Right.
I don't see how it's inaccurate? These things don't contradict one another.
by Vassenor » Fri May 26, 2017 12:15 am
United Muscovite Nations wrote:
Jesus, this is inaccurate. Join a MENA group, and you will see how radicalization really does happen, unfortunately (though, the mods will hopefully ban the radicalized individuals). It usually starts with a resentment toward Western values. A lot of European Muslims talk surprisingly like the Alt-Right.
by Questers » Fri May 26, 2017 12:26 am
by Questers » Fri May 26, 2017 12:27 am
Going to Manchester this weekend so will be able to see for myself how active it is.Fartsniffage wrote:Went to a restaurant in the Printworks tonight. It was empty, so quiet that we were the last group in by 8:30pm and they actually closed up at 9.
I've never seen the Printworks and the places in it even less than half full and that includes about half an hour after they open.
Edit: I also saw a guy stop to offer a couple of bobbies a crisp from his pack, so that was nice.
by The Knockout Gun Gals » Fri May 26, 2017 12:39 am
by Cabra West » Fri May 26, 2017 1:31 am
by Vassenor » Fri May 26, 2017 1:42 am
Cabra West wrote:So now after Theresa May had to have a hospital photo opportunity with some of the victims, the queen is stalking the wards as well....
I can't imagine I'd want to see either if I was recovering after an attack like that. I wonder if they actually asked the patients, or just showed the public figures in next to the beds?
by The East Marches II » Fri May 26, 2017 1:43 am
Vassenor wrote:United Muscovite Nations wrote:Jesus, this is inaccurate. Join a MENA group, and you will see how radicalization really does happen, unfortunately (though, the mods will hopefully ban the radicalized individuals). It usually starts with a resentment toward Western values. A lot of European Muslims talk surprisingly like the Alt-Right.
I am interested in seeing your sources.
by Lady Scylla » Fri May 26, 2017 5:03 am
Cabra West wrote:So now after Theresa May had to have a hospital photo opportunity with some of the victims, the queen is stalking the wards as well....
I can't imagine I'd want to see either if I was recovering after an attack like that. I wonder if they actually asked the patients, or just showed the public figures in next to the beds?
by Frank Zipper » Fri May 26, 2017 5:10 am
Lady Scylla wrote:Cabra West wrote:So now after Theresa May had to have a hospital photo opportunity with some of the victims, the queen is stalking the wards as well....
I can't imagine I'd want to see either if I was recovering after an attack like that. I wonder if they actually asked the patients, or just showed the public figures in next to the beds?
I think seeing the Queen would be pretty awesome.
by Dumb Ideologies » Fri May 26, 2017 5:10 am
by Ifreann » Fri May 26, 2017 5:38 am
Dumb Ideologies wrote:The East Marches II wrote:
He literally used an anecdote and opinion, no different than a facebook post. Do you want him to post chat logs and recordings for you?
You joke, but no-one should bother putting in the labour. Anything that doesn't match their worldview will just get a stock unfunny snarky dismissal or deflection and everyone's just wasted their time.
by Imperializt Russia » Fri May 26, 2017 6:08 am
Tolerant Fellow wrote:Vassenor wrote:
I am interested in seeing what data you are basing these hypotheses on.
White babies, will, for the first time ever, be the minority in America in 2017.
http://www.npr.org/sections/ed/2016/07/ ... ensus-says
Tolerant Fellow wrote:Minority and immigrant children are the fastest growing.
https://www.childtrends.org/indicators/ ... -children/
Tolerant Fellow wrote:Muslims will outpace Christians by 2035.
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/musli ... le/2619398
Tolerant Fellow wrote:Merkel wishes to bring in 12 million non-white migrants.
http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/765 ... 12-million
Tolerant Fellow wrote:Scientists have determined that humans will be almost entirely brown by 2050.
https://mic.com/articles/87359/national ... .oRQGc2Qr7
Tolerant Fellow wrote:Interracial marriage and relationships are growing.
http://www.pewsocialtrends.org/2012/02/ ... rmarriage/
Tolerant Fellow wrote:Pope encourages Europeans to not have children to prevent 'overpopulation' while at the same time promoting open borders because 'muh pensions'.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world ... 12676.html
http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing- ... ter-sermon
Tolerant Fellow wrote:Whites are being targeted by the MSM to not have children.
https://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/05/styl ... ubz=0&_r=0
Also,Lamadia wrote:dangerous socialist attitude
Imperializt Russia wrote:I'm English, you tit.
by Dumb Ideologies » Fri May 26, 2017 6:17 am
Ifreann wrote:Dumb Ideologies wrote:
You joke, but no-one should bother putting in the labour. Anything that doesn't match their worldview will just get a stock unfunny snarky dismissal or deflection and everyone's just wasted their time.
Wouldn't our time have to be valuable in some way in order for it to be wasted?
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