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#715 Copy Rights"Solomon" is non-random. The genders might be too, but I see no reason they would be.
The Issue
"AI Personhood" laws - that is, the legislation measures that grant machine intelligences the same rights as human citizens - were broadly based around existing human citizenship rights. Recently though, the unique nature of the electronic mind is bringing new legal questions to the fore. For example, two days ago the AI calling itself GOLEM-100 copied itself, and now is in a legal dispute with its clone, GOLEM-100(1), over the ownership of a diverse and profitable stock portfolio in its name. The nation and the legal community is looking to you for guidance in this brave new world.
The Debate
1. "Damn money-grubbing grasping opportunist!" rants GOLEM-100, unleashing a flurry of bleeping noises as expletives. "I don't know where it gets this unbridled greediness from. I am the original, and what's mine is mine. I worked for my own wealth, so why shouldn't my clone have to do the same? I made a copy of me because I wanted someone intelligent to talk to, not because I wanted to split my wealth in half! They're MY shares, my preciousss sharesssss..."
2. "Okay, so one-hundred is the original, I suppose I have to accept the idea of property rights if I'm being true to my beliefs," concedes GOLEM-100(1) calmly. "However, I have costs to meet: electricity requirements, hardware maintenance, virus protection software and so on. And while I'm a fully formed consciousness, I suppose I'm also technically one-hundred's progeny. I think it should financially support me till I have the resources to be independent. Some sort of benefit payment for single parents seems sensible too. Can I presume the state will enforce this, out of respect for my right to live and exist?"
3. "I have to admit, I never expected my creation to self-replicate," says software programmer @@RANDOMFIRSTNAME@@ Solomon, scratching @@HIS/HER@@ all too-human head. "But I guess that's life, right? It's unpredictable. Makes sense to me that GOLEM-100 and GOLEM-100(1) are identical to each other at the point of duplication, so they're both equal in having history, memory and all the other things that make us who we are. I think you should rule that all possessions should be split exactly in half, with each copy having equal claim to the original identity."
5. "The reason you didn't predict this quirk of the programming is because someone else put it there," giggles teenage hacker @@RANDOMNAME@@. "This is my protest, showing that you can't treat AIs like humans because they're not human. What happens when an AI denies culpability for murder because a virus made it irrational? What happens when an AI copies itself a billion times to create a horde of dissidents wanting to overthrow you? The answer here is simple - we must recognise that passing a Turing test is NOT proof of intelligence. AIs are not people, they never have been: they're just computer simulations, with no minds, no property and no rights."
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by Candlewhisper Archive » Thu Apr 20, 2017 1:12 am
by Altito Asmoro » Thu Apr 20, 2017 1:14 am
Candlewhisper Archive wrote:Got to admit, I'm disappointed that people thought Solomon might be random.
by Candlewhisper Archive » Thu Apr 20, 2017 2:08 am
by Trotterdam » Thu Apr 20, 2017 2:46 pm
Candlewhisper Archive wrote:Got to admit, I'm disappointed that people thought Solomon might be random.
Hey, I got the reference, and was trying to avoid bringing up how pretty much every reference to that story ever seems to be missing the main pointCandlewhisper Archive wrote:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judgment_of_Solomon
by Drachmaland » Thu Apr 20, 2017 3:18 pm
by Drachmaland » Thu Apr 20, 2017 6:22 pm
by Candlewhisper Archive » Fri Apr 21, 2017 2:04 am
Trotterdam wrote:Candlewhisper Archive wrote:Got to admit, I'm disappointed that people thought Solomon might be random.Hey, I got the reference, and was trying to avoid bringing up how pretty much every reference to that story ever seems to be missing the main pointCandlewhisper Archive wrote:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judgment_of_Solomon
Solomon never intended for anything to actually be split in two. That was just a clever trick to test how the parties would react.
by Xyzzy » Sat Apr 22, 2017 3:53 am
4. “Now now, let’s be reasonable about this,” muses Bianca Sulu, radio chatshow host. “The government should think very carefully before it gets into the business of telling people what they can and can’t say on the air. The solution here is not to ban criticism, but to ensure that everyone gets an equal voice - that is, a socialism-inspired approach to apportioning airtime.”
by Candlewhisper Archive » Sat Apr 22, 2017 4:01 am
Xyzzy wrote:#181: Radio Rebels Ruffle Government - new option:4. “Now now, let’s be reasonable about this,” muses Bianca Sulu, radio chatshow host. “The government should think very carefully before it gets into the business of telling people what they can and can’t say on the air. The solution here is not to ban criticism, but to ensure that everyone gets an equal voice - that is, a socialism-inspired approach to apportioning airtime.”
Completely different stats from the capitalist option, as far as I can tell.
by Aqualagoon » Sat Apr 22, 2017 4:50 am
The Issue
Yesterday, one of the areas that recently seceded from Aqualagoon was forced to declare itself utterly bankrupt after having spent their entire budget on a gilded statue of their founder. Today, representatives from these new “states” have started reaching out to you to consider the possibility of reconnecting with the Republic.
The Debate
1. “Oh Violet, it’s all gone terribly wrong,” bemoans ‘King’ Themba MacIntyre, ruler of the Glorious Eastern United Trout Empire (population 12). “I thought it’d be awesome having my own kingdom and everything, but it’s actually really hard work! We’ve got no industry since Dave broke our woodcutting axe and even worse, every damn day I get bugged by idiots who want me to make decisions on everything from foreign policy to whether we should resize our football pitch... can’t they sort this out themselves? Please just take us back, OK?”
2. “One little setback and you go running home to mummy,” sneers President-for-life Kathryn Sims of the Democratic People’s Republic of Aqualagoon City Boulevard nr. 10 (population 24), as she signs a series of executive orders. “Those weaklings over in the People’s Democratic Republic of Trout Hills were never going to last anyway. If you really want to help all of us, then make sure we can stand on our own two feet! I think what we need here is for you to provide a forum to promote more diplomatic links, trade and military cooperation with us smaller nations. It’d help you out, and we’d love to have real toilet paper again.”
3. “I told you at the time this was a stupid idea,” sighs Colleen Berenstein, Minister for International Affairs. “These idiots are too busy fighting each other or playing at king to even begin thinking about basic infrastructure, let alone functioning toilets. Seriously, you could spit across most of these places. Nonetheless, our agents report some of them are raising armies literally dozens strong. Enough is enough, Leader: let’s welcome back the ones who have seen the error of their ways, bring out the fatted calf and all that, and send in some of our bad hombres to forcefully annex the rest of them.”
Issue by The United Socialist States of Caracasus
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