Do you think LGBTs will eventually be all rounded up?

[Soldati Senza Confini]

If I have to choose between God and my child, then of course God comes first.

Hence why parenting is not for you.

As I said, with a kid you must be willing to put everything on the line for them.

Otherwise, don't bother. There's plenty of us fucking to make up for one of you.

[Neutraligon]

And your kids are not just for fun as well.

To be honest, what scares me a lot more than their choices in life is not being able to give them better opportunities than the ones I've had.

My kids can be, and excuse my language, "raging, flaming, flamboyant homos" all they like. Hell, if they want to wear dresses and use lipstick and they're happen to be men. I. Don't. Care. I don't even care if they like their wives to use a dildo on them either.

All I want of them is to be able to have more than I had in life. A stable, sane family; and more career choices than the ones I had, and them being able to make more money and have a better cushion than I did.

I would say the same. There is very little that would get me to turn against any kid I have; the only things I can think of are things like rape and murder. That being said I know I should not be a parent due to other issues,namely that I am very bad at dealing with kids for more than 1 hour at a time, and I tend to be somewhat irresponsible when it comes to taking care of my own living space.

[Hashirajima]

For your kids, you sometimes have to make concessions about what you believe and what you don't believe in.

Having a child is not for fun either, it's a commitment to them. The moment that child is born, you are bound to be loyal to them through thick and thin. Religion, or not, that's what you're signing up for.

If you are not ready for that sort of commitment towards your kids, whereupon you are willing to put everything on the line for them, don't be a parent.

If I have to choose between God and my child, then of course God comes first.

Suggestion: Please consider joining the clergy. I'm serious, it might actually suit you.

[United Muscovite Nations]

If I have to choose between God and my child, then of course God comes first.

Hence why parenting is not for you.

As I said, with a kid you must be willing to put everything on the line for them.

Otherwise, don't bother. There's plenty of us fucking to make up for one of you.

Would you shelter your child from the police if they had committed a murder?

[Dumb Ideologies]

For your kids, you sometimes have to make concessions about what you believe and what you don't believe in.

Having a child is not for fun either, it's a commitment to them. The moment that child is born, you are bound to be loyal to them through thick and thin. Religion, or not, that's what you're signing up for.

If you are not ready for that sort of commitment towards your kids, whereupon you are willing to put everything on the line for them, don't be a parent.

If I have to choose between God and my child, then of course God comes first.

If you're not willing to make any moral compromises for the sake of your children's happiness, you're not enough of an adult to be someone who should be having kids.

[Internationalist Bastard]

And your kids are not just for fun as well.

To be honest, what scares me a lot more than their choices in life is not being able to give them better opportunities than the ones I've had.

My kids can be, and excuse my language, "raging, flaming, flamboyant homos" all they like. Hell, if they want to wear dresses and use lipstick and they're happen to be men. I. Don't. Care. I don't even care if they like their wives to use a dildo on them either.

All I want of them is to be able to have more than I had in life. A stable, sane family; and more career choices than the ones I had, and them being able to make more money and have a better cushion than I did.

That's all we can ever hope for isn't it? It's weird to think about for me, but my mom traveled to America with a complicated pregnancy all by herself just to give me a better chance. And now I have a godchild, a baby girl I'm not even related to and lives on the other side of the world, and I'm worrying about her future. It's crazy. So to UMN, I don't have a problem with your views, I just don't want to see you ruin your family if this horrible scenario ever happened.

[Neutraligon]

Hence why parenting is not for you.

As I said, with a kid you must be willing to put everything on the line for them.

Otherwise, don't bother. There's plenty of us fucking to make up for one of you.

Would you shelter your child from the police if they had committed a murder?

Being a homosexual and murdering another person are not in any way remotely similar. Oh and sheltering my child against the police and refusing to talk to them/disinheriting them are not the same thing. So would I shelter them, no, would I refuse to talk to them and disinherit them, also no.

[Arcturus Novus]

Saying conservatives want to send gays to concentration camps is strawman bullshit

Nobody is actually claiming that conservatives will forcibly incarcerate LGBT people. OP suggested that this may be the logical conclusion to conservative homophobia, but never said that this was strictly what conservatives want. That in and of itself is, ironically, a strawman.

We live in an age when social justice and feminism have made victimhood a way of life and people are becoming weary of it.

God forbid that marginalized people ever seek social/legal equality, or reparations for past wrongdoings.

For example, if you are gay, woman, or a minority you can say you got fired because of discrimination and ask for laws to be made to "protect" you.

Except this actually happens. Employers in right-to-work states can fire anyone for any reason; this can extend to simply being a racial or sexual minority.

The left wing thinks laws must "level the play field" while conservatives have a more individualist concept of life that by the way I share.

Why is leveling the playing field a bad thing? Are all men not created equal? Do people not deserve equality?

We are responsible for our own life and nobody owes you anything.

To be fair, the government is kinda created to serve the people, so it'd make sense that it's laws benefit all people.

When some people demand LGBT right's, what they actually mean are LGBT privileges.

We don't want "privileges." We mostly just wanna be recognized as people. Sure, I'd personally like if the government helped pay for my gender reassignment surgery, but that doesn't trump the "being treated as people" thing yet.

You don't need to be conservative to be against this but it usually comes together. I get along with anyone as long as they don't want special laws tailored for them.

Again, no special laws, we just don't want to be treated as second-class citizens just because we're not straight and/or cis.

[Kannap]

Houses built from wood are off the market for me. I wouldn't be able to contain myself.

Sharpening your 2B pencil in a wooden shed while the trees watch and whisper in the wind.

Excuse me for a moment.

[Kannap]

The bigger question is though what's going to happen if they date and marry someone their own sex/gender?

Like, you know, it's fine if you don't approve, but a lot of parents who think this way end up disowning their children, which is why I ask.

At that point, I think they would have to choose what really matters to them.

At the point that you have to force your child to choose between being who they are and being happy or having to to impress you and be sad and depressed their entire life, can you really say you love them? Will they think you love them?

[Soldati Senza Confini]

Hence why parenting is not for you.

As I said, with a kid you must be willing to put everything on the line for them.

Otherwise, don't bother. There's plenty of us fucking to make up for one of you.

Would you shelter your child from the police if they had committed a murder?

1. We're not talking about kids killing other kids, we're talking about homosexuality. Jesus Christ.

2. If my children had committed a murder, I'd be faced in a tough position. On the one hand, sure, the law is the law and nobody is above it. On the other, they're my kids, and I owe loyalty to them. I would advise them to turn themselves in and I'd put a good attorney on their case to get them out of it, if at all possible.

[United Muscovite Nations]

If I have to choose between God and my child, then of course God comes first.

If you're not willing to make any moral compromises for the sake of your children's happiness, you're not enough of an adult to be someone who should be having kids.

If your worldview changes to suit your feelings, then you're not consistent in any way, and you should quit pretending you believe in what's right.

[Kannap]

For your kids, you sometimes have to make concessions about what you believe and what you don't believe in.

Having a child is not for fun either, it's a commitment to them. The moment that child is born, you are bound to be loyal to them through thick and thin. Religion, or not, that's what you're signing up for.

If you are not ready for that sort of commitment towards your kids, whereupon you are willing to put everything on the line for them, don't be a parent.

If I have to choose between God and my child, then of course God comes first.

Then I hope you never have children. I admire your dedication and faith, but if it requires you to neglect your duties to your children then perhaps it would be best to not have children.

[Jello Biafra]

For your kids, you sometimes have to make concessions about what you believe and what you don't believe in.

Having a child is not for fun either, it's a commitment to them. The moment that child is born, you are bound to be loyal to them through thick and thin. Religion, or not, that's what you're signing up for.

If you are not ready for that sort of commitment towards your kids, whereupon you are willing to put everything on the line for them, don't be a parent.

If I have to choose between God and my child, then of course God comes first.

You're aware that this will elevate your child's risk of suicide, yes?

[Internationalist Bastard]

If you're not willing to make any moral compromises for the sake of your children's happiness, you're not enough of an adult to be someone who should be having kids.

If your worldview changes to suit your feelings, then you're not consistent in any way, and you should quit pretending you believe in what's right.

And what if my worldview is based around my friends and family?

[United Muscovite Nations]

Would you shelter your child from the police if they had committed a murder?

1. We're not talking about kids killing other kids, we're talking about homosexuality. Jesus Christ.

2. If my children had committed a murder, I'd be faced in a tough position. On the one hand, sure, the law is the law and nobody is above it. On the other, they're my kids, and I owe loyalty to them. I would advise them to turn themselves in and I'd put a good attorney on their case to get them out of it, if at all possible.

1) They are both embracing sins.

2) I mean if you know they did it. If you know they did it, then you're just helping a murderer. If you are loyal to an individual more than you are to what you think is right, then you have no business raising children, because you would raise them with a moral weakness and idleness that will turn them into lousy excuses for human beings.

[Dumb Ideologies]

If you're not willing to make any moral compromises for the sake of your children's happiness, you're not enough of an adult to be someone who should be having kids.

If your worldview changes to suit your feelings, then you're not consistent in any way, and you should quit pretending you believe in what's right.

If your beliefs make your children and yourself miserable it's probably time to get some better beliefs.

[Neutraligon]

1. We're not talking about kids killing other kids, we're talking about homosexuality. Jesus Christ.

2. If my children had committed a murder, I'd be faced in a tough position. On the one hand, sure, the law is the law and nobody is above it. On the other, they're my kids, and I owe loyalty to them. I would advise them to turn themselves in and I'd put a good attorney on their case to get them out of it, if at all possible.

1) They are both embracing sins.

Are you really going to claim that all "sins" are the same? And what if god demanded they commit that crime? He has ordered his people to kill in the past, supposedly.

2) I mean if you know they did it. If you know they did it, then you're just helping a murderer. If you are loyal to an individual more than you are to what you think is right, then you have no business raising children, because you would raise them with a moral weakness and idleness that will turn them into lousy excuses for human beings.

If they committed the crime I would still attempt to get them to turn themselves in and try to get them a good lawyer so that they do not get the death penalty. I would not disinherit them nor would I stop talking to them. No matter what they are still my child. If you are going to ignore that your actions actively harm your child and are going to increase the chance they will commit suicide, if you are going to force your child to choose between you and their chance at happiness, if you are going to so harm your child's mental well being that you will turn against them then you should not have a child. Oh, and loyalty to my child is what is right.

[Washington Resistance Army]

If your worldview changes to suit your feelings, then you're not consistent in any way, and you should quit pretending you believe in what's right.

If your beliefs make your children and yourself miserable it's probably time to get some better beliefs.

This^

[Threlizdun]

If you're not willing to make any moral compromises for the sake of your children's happiness, you're not enough of an adult to be someone who should be having kids.

If your worldview changes to suit your feelings, then you're not consistent in any way, and you should quit pretending you believe in what's right.

People change their worldviews if situations change and the views are found to negatively affect their lives and the lives of those around them. There is absolutely nothing wrong in changing your beliefs. It's a part of growing as a person.

[Aeringard]

Well, by rounding up you mean forcing them together on death marches and killing them, no. Such a thing will never happen globally, and better nations out there is there to protect us from that. That being said, I do believe in some parts of the world the LGBTQ community is better off not going due to the hostile environment and peoples barbaric and conservative ways.

[United Muscovite Nations]

1) They are both embracing sins.

Are you really going to claim that all "sins" are the same? And what if god demanded they commit that crime? He has ordered his people to kill in the past, supposedly.

2) I mean if you know they did it. If you know they did it, then you're just helping a murderer. If you are loyal to an individual more than you are to what you think is right, then you have no business raising children, because you would raise them with a moral weakness and idleness that will turn them into lousy excuses for human beings.

If they committed the crime I would still attempt to get them to turn themselves in and try to get them a good lawyer so that they do not get the death penalty. I would not disinherit them nor would I stop talking to them. No matter what they are still my child. If you are going to ignore that your actions actively harm your child and are going to increase the chance they will commit suicide, if you are going to force your child to choose between you and their chance at happiness, if you are going to so harm your child's mental well being that you will turn against them then you should not have a child. Oh, and loyalty to my child is what is right.

So you mean to say that loyalty to family is the supreme good? What absurd folly.

[The Shrailleeni Empire]

In the United States, rounding up LGBT people has already happened in several states in the past. That's what anti-sodomy laws and "crimes against nature" were originally created for. While the repeal of these laws in the U.S. started earlier, until 2003 states like Alabama were still routinely rounding up open LGBT members and throwing them into prison.

I worry that the current U.S. Supreme Court will overturn its 2003 decision on the basis of "states rights" and allow this to occur in states with deeply religious and conservative legislatures once again.

Will every single LGBT person in the entire country, nay, the world be "rounded up" as the OP title suggests? I find that difficult to believe. But in many places including inside of the United States I believe that it is a very real danger.

[Neutraligon]

Are you really going to claim that all "sins" are the same? And what if god demanded they commit that crime? He has ordered his people to kill in the past, supposedly.

If they committed the crime I would still attempt to get them to turn themselves in and try to get them a good lawyer so that they do not get the death penalty. I would not disinherit them nor would I stop talking to them. No matter what they are still my child. If you are going to ignore that your actions actively harm your child and are going to increase the chance they will commit suicide, if you are going to force your child to choose between you and their chance at happiness, if you are going to so harm your child's mental well being that you will turn against them then you should not have a child. Oh, and loyalty to my child is what is right.

So you mean to say that loyalty to family is the supreme good? What absurd folly.

Since I don't know what you mean by supreme good I have no way of answering that.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

1. We're not talking about kids killing other kids, we're talking about homosexuality. Jesus Christ.

2. If my children had committed a murder, I'd be faced in a tough position. On the one hand, sure, the law is the law and nobody is above it. On the other, they're my kids, and I owe loyalty to them. I would advise them to turn themselves in and I'd put a good attorney on their case to get them out of it, if at all possible.

1) They are both embracing sins.

2) I mean if you know they did it. If you know they did it, then you're just helping a murderer. If you are loyal to an individual more than you are to what you think is right, then you have no business raising children, because you would raise them with a moral weakness and idleness that will turn them into lousy excuses for human beings.

If I knew they'd done it, I'd still put an attorney on their case to get them out of it with a "no guilty" charge and I would not testify against them, but rather work with my lawyer to testify in my child's best interests.

I do find being loyal being right. I am loyal to my friends, lovers, and family. But with the same amount of loyalty I give I also expect a shitload of loyalty from them. The price of loyalty is a high one, but so are the rewards reaped out of being loyal.