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Postby Tim-Opolis » Tue Apr 18, 2017 7:26 am

Hail TRF o/
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Postby Kurnugia » Tue Apr 18, 2017 7:45 am

Looking forward to your next fash bash OP :D
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Postby SYG » Tue Apr 18, 2017 1:36 pm

Nice.
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Postby Timchiland » Tue Apr 18, 2017 4:19 pm

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The Admiralty Board of The Red Fleet has voted unanimously to withdraw the Fleet from the Coalition Against the Ideology of Nazism. We are now announcing that vote in line with the CAIN treaty to effect our withdrawal from the coalition.

Plagued by bureaucratism and inactivity, CAIN has failed to effectively combat Nazism since before its inception when a handful of regions, including several which would go on to refuse to sign onto the final CAIN treaty, worked with Antifa to destroy the ancient Nazi region The NSIA.

Since that operation, no significant action has been taken by CAIN to combat Nazism within NationStates, and it has instead served as a hotbed of drama and an outlet for the flexing of egos by gameplayers. What could have been a considerable anti-Nazi force instead became a quagmire without direction.

The Red Fleet, as a longtime voluntary member of Antifa, remains dedicated to eradicating fascist and Nazi hellholes across NationStates. We will happily work with those who share our aims to continue to bash the fash.

Questions may be directed to Timchiland, Fleet Admiral of The Red Fleet.

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Postby Cormactopia Prime » Tue Apr 18, 2017 4:35 pm

Yeah, okay, just going to point out that the only reason The Red Fleet actually withdrew from CAIN is because Brunhilde banned Misley from the NSGP Discord server for inappropriate behavior, Misley doubled down on being inappropriate by dragging complaints about his ban to the CAIN server, and Misley getting mad because of something completely unrelated to CAIN has now led to this.

"A hotbed of drama and an outlet for the flexing of egos by gameplayers"? Pot, meet kettle.

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Postby Caelapes » Tue Apr 18, 2017 4:36 pm

yeah all of the other admirals care deeply about that and don't have their own opinions about cain or anything, at all

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Postby RiderSyl » Tue Apr 18, 2017 5:04 pm

Caelapes wrote:the red fleet is me and a bunch of puppets


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Postby Revall » Tue Apr 18, 2017 5:07 pm

Well Damn Syl has the most badass collection of reaction gifs. . .
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Postby Sotasky » Wed Apr 19, 2017 4:30 am

Just looks like a mostly irrelevant region that is trying to convince others and itself that it's still relevant by withdrawing from CAIN and hoping others will follow.
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Postby Caelapes » Wed Apr 19, 2017 5:23 am

Sotasky wrote:Just looks like a mostly irrelevant region that is trying to convince others and itself that it's still relevant by withdrawing from CAIN and hopefully my others follow.

and who are you again pal
    
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Postby Cresenthia » Wed Apr 19, 2017 7:58 am

Caelapes wrote:
Sotasky wrote:Just looks like a mostly irrelevant region that is trying to convince others and itself that it's still relevant by withdrawing from CAIN and hopefully my others follow.

and who are you again pal

Frankly, they deserve a medal. I'm not sure what for exactly though.

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Postby Indo-Malaysia » Wed Apr 19, 2017 11:22 am

Sotasky wrote:Just looks like a mostly irrelevant region that is trying to convince others and itself that it's still relevant by withdrawing from CAIN and hopefully my others follow.

Yeah. Screw those active long-lasting influential regions who are actually bothered to fight nazis. Who needs them, right?
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Postby Vuori Kunin-Grrs » Wed Apr 19, 2017 6:52 pm

Timchiland wrote:Since that operation, no significant action has been taken by CAIN to combat Nazism within NationStates, and it has instead served as a hotbed of drama and an outlet for the flexing of egos by gameplayers. What could have been a considerable anti-Nazi force instead became a quagmire without direction.

And this is why CAIN needs to create infiltration operations in Nazi regions.

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Postby Drop Your Pants » Thu Apr 20, 2017 4:04 am

Timchiland wrote:Plagued by bureaucratism and inactivity,

And in typical NS style its easier to run away than make an effort to change things. 'Oh no things aren't working out, lets leg it and try to blame everyone else on our way out'.
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Postby Solorni » Thu Apr 20, 2017 5:10 am

At least the Soviets did not give up against the Nazis :/
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Postby Sotasky » Thu Apr 20, 2017 6:21 am

Caelapes wrote:
Sotasky wrote:Just looks like a mostly irrelevant region that is trying to convince others and itself that it's still relevant by withdrawing from CAIN and hopefully my others follow.

and who are you again pal
Some irrelevant guy talking about irrelevant regions 8)

Who apparently can't spell

Cresenthia wrote:Frankly, they deserve a medal. I'm not sure what for exactly though.
Thanks, but medals leave a bad taste in my mouth, how about a cookie? Chocolate chip and snicker-doodle are my favorite.
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Postby Caelapes » Thu Apr 20, 2017 2:04 pm

Drop Your Pants wrote:
Timchiland wrote:Plagued by bureaucratism and inactivity,

And in typical NS style its easier to run away than make an effort to change things. 'Oh no things aren't working out, lets leg it and try to blame everyone else on our way out'.

Solorni wrote:At least the Soviets did not give up against the Nazis :/

we're not running away from anything or giving up though? TRF is still a voluntary member of Antifa and will be continuing to organize and execute antifascist and anti-Nazi operations.
    
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Postby Cormactopia Prime » Thu Apr 20, 2017 2:22 pm

Caelapes wrote:
Drop Your Pants wrote:And in typical NS style its easier to run away than make an effort to change things. 'Oh no things aren't working out, lets leg it and try to blame everyone else on our way out'.

Solorni wrote:At least the Soviets did not give up against the Nazis :/

we're not running away from anything or giving up though? TRF is still a voluntary member of Antifa and will be continuing to organize and execute antifascist and anti-Nazi operations.

The Red Fleet's withdrawal is fair enough but, as with The East Pacific, the CAIN bashing isn't at all necessary. Nobody twisted The Red Fleet's arm to join CAIN in the first place and, until this statement was posted, nobody was upset at The Red Fleet for withdrawing either. As I said to the Delegate of The East Pacific in another thread, when you take swipes at CAIN you are also taking swipes at all of its signatory regions -- regions that have worked with The Red Fleet on anti-fascist operations prior to and during CAIN's existence, many of which will continue, for some mystifying reason, to work with The Red Fleet even still. There is no reason to throw around blame and unfair attacks directed toward an organization, and its signatory regions, that have not at any point wronged The Red Fleet in any way. Why not just withdraw and go on your merry way without lobbing grenades behind you on your way out?

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Postby Vuori Kunin-Grrs » Thu Apr 20, 2017 3:57 pm

Cormactopia Prime wrote:The Red Fleet's withdrawal is fair enough but, as with The East Pacific, the CAIN bashing isn't at all necessary. Nobody twisted The Red Fleet's arm to join CAIN in the first place and, until this statement was posted, nobody was upset at The Red Fleet for withdrawing either. As I said to the Delegate of The East Pacific in another thread, when you take swipes at CAIN you are also taking swipes at all of its signatory regions -- regions that have worked with The Red Fleet on anti-fascist operations prior to and during CAIN's existence, many of which will continue, for some mystifying reason, to work with The Red Fleet even still. There is no reason to throw around blame and unfair attacks directed toward an organization, and its signatory regions, that have not at any point wronged The Red Fleet in any way. Why not just withdraw and go on your merry way without lobbing grenades behind you on your way out?

It's called "the toxicity of Gameplay."

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Postby Drop Your Pants » Fri Apr 21, 2017 2:15 am

Caelapes wrote:[
we're not running away from anything or giving up though? TRF is still a voluntary member of Antifa and will be continuing to organize and execute antifascist and anti-Nazi operations.

Well done for being part of Antifa, have a cookie. But we're talking about you running away from CAIN instead of trying to change things.
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Postby Mattopilos II » Fri Apr 21, 2017 2:21 am

Drop Your Pants wrote:
Caelapes wrote:[
we're not running away from anything or giving up though? TRF is still a voluntary member of Antifa and will be continuing to organize and execute antifascist and anti-Nazi operations.

Well done for being part of Antifa, have a cookie. But we're talking about you running away from CAIN instead of trying to change things.


Pretty sure they have been trying to change things. It isn't like they just arrived and thought "Fuck it" and left.
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Postby Sotasky » Fri Apr 21, 2017 12:27 pm

Indo-Malaysia wrote:
Sotasky wrote:Just looks like a mostly irrelevant region that is trying to convince others and itself that it's still relevant by withdrawing from CAIN and hopefully my others follow.

Yeah. Screw those active long-lasting influential regions who are actually bothered to fight nazis. Who needs them, right?

How unfortunate I didn't see this before. Thank goodness we have people in left-wing regions ruining the image of CAIN by giving people a scapegoat to accuse CAIN of simply being a tool of the left-wing to eliminate right-wing regions. What would we do without these regions that only fight Nazis for personal gain? Gee golly, I wish I had thought of that.
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Postby Caelapes » Tue Jul 04, 2017 9:36 am

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The Red Fleet early warning system mobilizes Fleet in defensive scramble


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In the first successful deployment of its early warning system, The Red Fleet mobilized against forces from Kekistani Republic who attempted to raid a leftist region on Tuesday.

An early alert was sent to Fleet commanders through the ILYICH suite around 9:43 this morning when an enemy nation moved into the vulnerable leftist region. At that time, Fleet commanders made a note of the movement, but took no further action.

When a follow-up alert at 11:57 AM alerted commanders to that nation receiving an endorsement, the alarm was raised and the Fleet quickly mobilized. However, with the klaxons sounding minutes before the region updated, during a minor update on a holiday in the US with and few comrades from the Europe-based Sankara Squadron online, The Red Fleet faced a situation where their numbers only tied the invasion force. Undeterred, The Red Fleet turned to comrades in the New Pacific Order, The Grey Wardens, South Pacific Special Forces, Renegade Islands Alliance Special Forces, and Rejected Realms Army, who poured into the region and secured the delegate seat to thwart the raid attempt and bash the fash.

The Red Fleet thanks these comrades for their swift response and cooperation in yet another fash bash!

Pax ignescens!
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Postby Catalyse » Tue Jul 04, 2017 9:43 am

The RRA was there too. :^)
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Postby Caelapes » Tue Jul 04, 2017 9:45 am

Catalyse wrote:The RRA was there too. :^)

fixed - my bad! :)
    
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