Transoxthraxia wrote:How do I deal with the Unbidden?
I let them fight whoever they've spawned in then sweep in once they've been weakened.
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by Lunas Legion » Mon Apr 10, 2017 5:00 am
Transoxthraxia wrote:How do I deal with the Unbidden?

by Paketo » Mon Apr 10, 2017 5:02 am
Transoxthraxia wrote:Paketo wrote:
Depends where they spawn. I simply holed up in my borders while they eradicated my neighbors and killed any fleets that wandered to close. After I thought I had enough power, I charged into the spawn system and killed the spawner.
They spawned right on the border of me and a nation whose federation I'm currently at war with. I deleted two of their fleets (50.4k strong) with my Vrinn Stellar Armada (64.2k strong), ending with approximately 66% of my fleet in ruin. I'm going to try and wear them down like I would a non-awakened Fallen Empire before confronting their warp gate.

by Lunas Legion » Mon Apr 10, 2017 5:20 am
Paketo wrote:Transoxthraxia wrote:They spawned right on the border of me and a nation whose federation I'm currently at war with. I deleted two of their fleets (50.4k strong) with my Vrinn Stellar Armada (64.2k strong), ending with approximately 66% of my fleet in ruin. I'm going to try and wear them down like I would a non-awakened Fallen Empire before confronting their warp gate.
Really. I used giga cannons, fighter and bomber swarms and guass cannons and barely suffered 20 ships destroyed in several engaments. The fleet in the spawn system is usually around 55 k

by Ifreann » Mon Apr 10, 2017 5:35 am
Transoxthraxia wrote:Paketo wrote:
Depends where they spawn. I simply holed up in my borders while they eradicated my neighbors and killed any fleets that wandered to close. After I thought I had enough power, I charged into the spawn system and killed the spawner.
They spawned right on the border of me and a nation whose federation I'm currently at war with. I deleted two of their fleets (50.4k strong) with my Vrinn Stellar Armada (64.2k strong), ending with approximately 66% of my fleet in ruin. I'm going to try and wear them down like I would a non-awakened Fallen Empire before confronting their warp gate.


by Great Nepal » Mon Apr 10, 2017 5:41 am

by Paketo » Mon Apr 10, 2017 5:52 am
Lunas Legion wrote:Paketo wrote:
Really. I used giga cannons, fighter and bomber swarms and guass cannons and barely suffered 20 ships destroyed in several engaments. The fleet in the spawn system is usually around 55 k
I had to fight off 200K during the assault on the portal. Granted that 200K arrived in staggered smaller groups, but still.
Ifreann wrote:Transoxthraxia wrote:They spawned right on the border of me and a nation whose federation I'm currently at war with. I deleted two of their fleets (50.4k strong) with my Vrinn Stellar Armada (64.2k strong), ending with approximately 66% of my fleet in ruin. I'm going to try and wear them down like I would a non-awakened Fallen Empire before confronting their warp gate.
This is the problem I always seem to have with the Unbidden. I can take one or maybe two fleets and then I need to pull my fleet back to replace my losses. Problem was, last game I let them get way too big before attacking them, so before I could get my fleet even close to strong enough to take one one fleet, there were two more Unbidden fleets depopulating my planets.
Glowly blue bastards.

by Imperial Idaho » Mon Apr 10, 2017 6:13 am
Altito Asmoro wrote:Stellaris or HoI4, if it's on discount again?
I'm from the land of Coeur D'alene Idaho.
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Next up on the Sopranos...
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by Imperial Idaho » Mon Apr 10, 2017 6:33 am
I'm from the land of Coeur D'alene Idaho.
By Ballot or by Bullet, the Pub Party will win. The Pub Legacy Edition.Ifreann wrote:The Romans placated the people with panem et circenses, bread and circuses. We will placate our people with dank space weed and hyper-HD vidya.Tysoania wrote:You remind me of a mobster who gets things cleared out of the way.
Next up on the Sopranos...
Imperial "Slick" Idaho, the fixer.Bralia wrote:Oh my fucking god. Do it again, guys, you both chose the number 7.

by Transoxthraxia » Mon Apr 10, 2017 7:54 am
Lunas Legion wrote:Paketo wrote:
Really. I used giga cannons, fighter and bomber swarms and guass cannons and barely suffered 20 ships destroyed in several engaments. The fleet in the spawn system is usually around 55 k
I had to fight off 200K during the assault on the portal. Granted that 200K arrived in staggered smaller groups, but still.
The Nuclear Fist wrote:Transoxthraxia confirmed for shit taste

by Paketo » Mon Apr 10, 2017 7:57 am
Transoxthraxia wrote:Lunas Legion wrote:
I had to fight off 200K during the assault on the portal. Granted that 200K arrived in staggered smaller groups, but still.
This is my exact problem. Currently my economy can only build so many ships before I run out of minerals, so I can easy take out their Anchors with only a few ships lost by warping into the systems and emergency FTL-ing out once the Anchors are destroyed and the 50-100k response force warps in, but the Dimensional Portal is simply too big with too much health to do this.

by Transoxthraxia » Mon Apr 10, 2017 8:51 am
Paketo wrote:Transoxthraxia wrote:This is my exact problem. Currently my economy can only build so many ships before I run out of minerals, so I can easy take out their Anchors with only a few ships lost by warping into the systems and emergency FTL-ing out once the Anchors are destroyed and the 50-100k response force warps in, but the Dimensional Portal is simply too big with too much health to do this.
What are the specs of your ships?
The Nuclear Fist wrote:Transoxthraxia confirmed for shit taste

by Paketo » Mon Apr 10, 2017 9:03 am
Transoxthraxia wrote:Paketo wrote:
What are the specs of your ships?
When the Unbidden first appeared I had a fairly varied fleet with equal numbers of most ships. However, as losses mounted I stopped building Destroyers and Cruisers because they were simply not economically effective against the Unbidden. Instead, now I use a combination of long-range battleships that have focused arc emitters and a shit-ton of short-range corvette torpedo boats armed with proton torpedoes that have a 200% damage-to-shield modifier. I'm maintaining a large corvette screen in order to buy the battleships time to actually do damage without receiving any in return as well as the facts that the corvettes cost approximately 15% of what a battleship does and in most of my space stations can be built in the span of three weeks. Plus proton Torpedoes.
Saggor-Class Battleship, Mol-Vikh-Class Corvette

by Transoxthraxia » Mon Apr 10, 2017 9:13 am
Paketo wrote:Transoxthraxia wrote:When the Unbidden first appeared I had a fairly varied fleet with equal numbers of most ships. However, as losses mounted I stopped building Destroyers and Cruisers because they were simply not economically effective against the Unbidden. Instead, now I use a combination of long-range battleships that have focused arc emitters and a shit-ton of short-range corvette torpedo boats armed with proton torpedoes that have a 200% damage-to-shield modifier. I'm maintaining a large corvette screen in order to buy the battleships time to actually do damage without receiving any in return as well as the facts that the corvettes cost approximately 15% of what a battleship does and in most of my space stations can be built in the span of three weeks. Plus proton Torpedoes.
Saggor-Class Battleship, Mol-Vikh-Class Corvette
If you have the tech, I would suggest design a second battleship with either particle land or mega cannons. Their range is superior to the unbidden and if you have any debris from battles, research it because you will get unbidden weapons you can equip
The Nuclear Fist wrote:Transoxthraxia confirmed for shit taste

by Transoxthraxia » Mon Apr 10, 2017 9:14 am
Come on Paradox.The Nuclear Fist wrote:Transoxthraxia confirmed for shit taste

by The Huskar Social Union » Mon Apr 10, 2017 10:02 am
Transoxthraxia wrote:Alright I've given up on the game. They've started focusing solely on my and I've lost half of my empire in about a month. Fuck this.
Update: I once again destroyed an Anchor, and the second I warp into their home system after having destroyed two more of their fleets, FOUR MORE WARP OUT OF THE FUCKING VOID.
Yeah, I give up. I was literally in the process of building ring worlds, tooCome on Paradox.

by Impaled Nazarene » Mon Apr 10, 2017 11:06 am
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by Ifreann » Mon Apr 10, 2017 11:49 am

by Bralia » Mon Apr 10, 2017 12:02 pm
Ifreann wrote:Hmm, I seem to have completed all the traditions.
Time to tear down these unity buildings and ditch the agrarian idyll civic.

by Paketo » Mon Apr 10, 2017 12:02 pm
Transoxthraxia wrote:Paketo wrote:
If you have the tech, I would suggest design a second battleship with either particle land or mega cannons. Their range is superior to the unbidden and if you have any debris from battles, research it because you will get unbidden weapons you can equip
Particle Lances are actually worse against the Unbidden, I think, because they do -33% damage to shields and they fire slower than my Arc Emitters despite having the same range of 110.

by Ifreann » Mon Apr 10, 2017 12:10 pm
Bralia wrote:Ifreann wrote:Hmm, I seem to have completed all the traditions.
Time to tear down these unity buildings and ditch the agrarian idyll civic.
"Hey, Rob . . . I just had an epiphany . . . what if there's more to society than just farming all day long?"
"Jim, NO!!!"
*everybody but Rob all drop their hoes and leave the farm forever*
<Jim would go on to live a new life picking up a different sort of hoe>

by The Huskar Social Union » Mon Apr 10, 2017 1:26 pm
Paketo wrote:Transoxthraxia wrote:Particle Lances are actually worse against the Unbidden, I think, because they do -33% damage to shields and they fire slower than my Arc Emitters despite having the same range of 110.
True but that is not a problem if you use them with a ton of bombers which rip right through shields. Your lack of bombers might actually be part of why you were not killing them. I have a dedicated carrier class alongside my mega weapon classes of battleship. If you get the unbidden in another game, I would suggest making several types of the same class ship to deal with different enemies.
Edit: oh yeah, @Huskar my neighbor in my spiritualist plant game are a Hisma hivemind. They are taking revenge for the smoothies
Pacifist farmers, take up arms and fight not only for your crops! But for the crops of all living beings in the galaxy!Ifreann wrote:Bralia wrote:"Hey, Rob . . . I just had an epiphany . . . what if there's more to society than just farming all day long?"
"Jim, NO!!!"
*everybody but Rob all drop their hoes and leave the farm forever*
<Jim would go on to live a new life picking up a different sort of hoe>
The holotemples have been replaced by hookertemples.
Fucking Unbidden.

by Cisairse » Mon Apr 10, 2017 1:43 pm
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