The NFL Thread: 2018 Preseason

[Idzequitch]

If Brady retired, that'd be a surprise.

Romo retired largely because of health reasons. Peyton pretty much retired because of health reasons.

I don't know why everything has to be 'Brady this' and 'Brady that' here sometimes....

With Tomo signing with CBS, one wonders where the Texans will look now. Especially with the Osweiler trade, they looked poised to pounce on Romo. Do they stick with Savage, or find someone else?

BTW, congrats to Romo. It hasn't been the most glamorous of careers for him, but he really was a pretty good QB. Now he's taking a job where he shouldn't have to miss time due to injury.

(In before he misses 4-6 weeks of broadcasting with a vocal cord injury.)

Yeah, a good question for sure. I think that if they can't fix the QB issue, no chance they have even remote chance for Super Bowl down the road.

Honestly, I think Savage is an upgrade over Osweiler, but he's not the high caliber QB the Texans need to be serious contenders. With Miller, Hopkins, Watt and company, it seems like they have all the other pieces in place. If they manage to get a high quality QB, that's a scary team. Question is, who can they get?

[Ranoria]

With Tomo signing with CBS, one wonders where the Texans will look now. Especially with the Osweiler trade, they looked poised to pounce on Romo. Do they stick with Savage, or find someone else?

BTW, congrats to Romo. It hasn't been the most glamorous of careers for him, but he really was a pretty good QB. Now he's taking a job where he shouldn't have to miss time due to injury.

(In before he misses 4-6 weeks of broadcasting with a vocal cord injury.)

Jay Cutler wouldn't fit into that locker room, but I say sign Ryan Fitzpatrick. Yes, he's coming off the worst season of his career, but if 2015 showed us anything, it's that if you give this man a high quality offense around him, then he can ball out. 3,900 yards and 36 TDs was a very good season, and a great one for him. Not to mention he'd be familiar with their system. Now that they have Hopkins AND Fuller, plus Braxton and Lamar Miller, Fiedorowicz, their TE, looks poised to make a jump imo, and then a solid O-line, Fitzpatrick should be able to pull off a 3,600 yard, 32 TD, maybe 12 INT season. Not incredible by any stretch, but maybe just enough.

If Brady retired, that'd be a surprise.

Romo retired largely because of health reasons. Peyton pretty much retired because of health reasons.

I don't know why everything has to be 'Brady this' and 'Brady that' here sometimes....

With Tomo signing with CBS, one wonders where the Texans will look now. Especially with the Osweiler trade, they looked poised to pounce on Romo. Do they stick with Savage, or find someone else?

BTW, congrats to Romo. It hasn't been the most glamorous of careers for him, but he really was a pretty good QB. Now he's taking a job where he shouldn't have to miss time due to injury.

(In before he misses 4-6 weeks of broadcasting with a vocal cord injury.)

Yeah, a good question for sure. I think that if they can't fix the QB issue, no chance they have even remote chance for Super Bowl down the road.

I don't think that's necessarily true. He'd need to play like he did in 2014, but JJ Watt is fully capable of winning games single handedly, and if their offense can do anything in the playoffs, and he finds a way to mimic that ridiculous season, then they very well could win the super bowl.

[Idzequitch]

With Tomo signing with CBS, one wonders where the Texans will look now. Especially with the Osweiler trade, they looked poised to pounce on Romo. Do they stick with Savage, or find someone else?

BTW, congrats to Romo. It hasn't been the most glamorous of careers for him, but he really was a pretty good QB. Now he's taking a job where he shouldn't have to miss time due to injury.

(In before he misses 4-6 weeks of broadcasting with a vocal cord injury.)

Jay Cutler wouldn't fit into that locker room, but I say sign Ryan Fitzpatrick. Yes, he's coming off the worst season of his career, but if 2015 showed us anything, it's that if you give this man a high quality offense around him, then he can ball out. 3,900 yards and 36 TDs was a very good season, and a great one for him. Not to mention he'd be familiar with their system. Now that they have Hopkins AND Fuller, plus Braxton and Lamar Miller, Fiedorowicz, their TE, looks poised to make a jump imo, and then a solid O-line, Fitzpatrick should be able to pull off a 3,600 yard, 32 TD, maybe 12 INT season. Not incredible by any stretch, but maybe just enough.

Romo retired largely because of health reasons. Peyton pretty much retired because of health reasons.

I don't know why everything has to be 'Brady this' and 'Brady that' here sometimes....
Yeah, a good question for sure. I think that if they can't fix the QB issue, no chance they have even remote chance for Super Bowl down the road.

I don't think that's necessarily true. He'd need to play like he did in 2014, but JJ Watt is fully capable of winning games single handedly, and if their offense can do anything in the playoffs, and he finds a way to mimic that ridiculous season, then they very well could win the super bowl.

The thing is, on defense, Watt can't really score points often. So if you're depending on Tom Savage to put up points against playoff teams, I'm not sure he can do that reliably enough to push them through.

You've got a point with Fitzpatrick. Obviously, you'd prefer to have someone with more upside, but since there's a dearth of good QB's available, and the Texans are one QB upgrade away from serious contenders, he may be their best shot, short of pulling some shocking blockbuster trade.

[Ranoria]

Jay Cutler wouldn't fit into that locker room, but I say sign Ryan Fitzpatrick. Yes, he's coming off the worst season of his career, but if 2015 showed us anything, it's that if you give this man a high quality offense around him, then he can ball out. 3,900 yards and 36 TDs was a very good season, and a great one for him. Not to mention he'd be familiar with their system. Now that they have Hopkins AND Fuller, plus Braxton and Lamar Miller, Fiedorowicz, their TE, looks poised to make a jump imo, and then a solid O-line, Fitzpatrick should be able to pull off a 3,600 yard, 32 TD, maybe 12 INT season. Not incredible by any stretch, but maybe just enough.


I don't think that's necessarily true. He'd need to play like he did in 2014, but JJ Watt is fully capable of winning games single handedly, and if their offense can do anything in the playoffs, and he finds a way to mimic that ridiculous season, then they very well could win the super bowl.

The thing is, on defense, Watt can't really score points often. So if you're depending on Tom Savage to put up points against playoff teams, I'm not sure he can do that reliably enough to push them through.

You've got a point with Fitzpatrick. Obviously, you'd prefer to have someone with more upside, but since there's a dearth of good QB's available, and the Texans are one QB upgrade away from serious contenders, he may be their best shot, short of pulling some shocking blockbuster trade.

That's very true, and he definetely can't reliably lead his defense to shutdown games, but the way he played some of those games in 2014, those blowouts, those weren't all the offense. A lot of that was JJ Watt tearing the opposing offense apart and just getting his team the ball back. Could he have a 4 game run of dominant play that led to a super bowl? Yes. Is it likely? Very much no.

I love Fitzy. I rooted for the Jets until they benched him. XD

[Idzequitch]

The thing is, on defense, Watt can't really score points often. So if you're depending on Tom Savage to put up points against playoff teams, I'm not sure he can do that reliably enough to push them through.

You've got a point with Fitzpatrick. Obviously, you'd prefer to have someone with more upside, but since there's a dearth of good QB's available, and the Texans are one QB upgrade away from serious contenders, he may be their best shot, short of pulling some shocking blockbuster trade.

That's very true, and he definetely can't reliably lead his defense to shutdown games, but the way he played some of those games in 2014, those blowouts, those weren't all the offense. A lot of that was JJ Watt tearing the opposing offense apart and just getting his team the ball back. Could he have a 4 game run of dominant play that led to a super bowl? Yes. Is it likely? Very much no.

I love Fitzy. I rooted for the Jets until they benched him. XD

And I think it's safe to say that the Texans are a far more talented team than Fitzpatrick has played with in the past, so it would be interesting to see what he could do in Houston.

[Outer Sparta]

That's very true, and he definetely can't reliably lead his defense to shutdown games, but the way he played some of those games in 2014, those blowouts, those weren't all the offense. A lot of that was JJ Watt tearing the opposing offense apart and just getting his team the ball back. Could he have a 4 game run of dominant play that led to a super bowl? Yes. Is it likely? Very much no.

I love Fitzy. I rooted for the Jets until they benched him. XD

And I think it's safe to say that the Texans are a far more talented team than Fitzpatrick has played with in the past, so it would be interesting to see what he could do in Houston.

Should the Texans swing a trade for Tony Romo?

[GreatestBanks]

That's very true, and he definetely can't reliably lead his defense to shutdown games, but the way he played some of those games in 2014, those blowouts, those weren't all the offense. A lot of that was JJ Watt tearing the opposing offense apart and just getting his team the ball back. Could he have a 4 game run of dominant play that led to a super bowl? Yes. Is it likely? Very much no.

I love Fitzy. I rooted for the Jets until they benched him. XD

And I think it's safe to say that the Texans are a far more talented team than Fitzpatrick has played with in the past, so it would be interesting to see what he could do in Houston.

Fitzpatrick, in my opinion, is at the end of the road. Even in that 2015 season where he was /so close/ to the playoffs, and he honestly shouldn't have been since Matt Slater managed to say that he wouldn't receive the ball in overtime. Plus, Fitzpatrick managed to openly crap on a football field in that last game against the walking mediocrity of the Buffalo Bills. (Remember that game? 181 yards, 2 touchdowns, and 3 interceptions. All of which were in the fourth quarter. And he should've had like three more passes intercepted, but Buffalo managed to drop at least one easy interception)

Look at the stats:
Completion Percentage:59.6%
Yards:3,905
TD-INT: 31-15
Passer Rating: 88

He's managed to have a completion percentage over 60% four times (His highest has been between 60.6%-63.1% And those were his /best/ seasons. And in that season with the 63.1% completion, he had a 6-6 record, and had a season ending injury)

Fitzpatrick is, when you look at the /most important situations/, someone who is wildly inconsistent.

fitzpatrick and the NY Jets blew a 10-0 lead against the Patriots in the regular season in the 2016-2017 season. And this was with a very supsicious 2 point conversion being overturned against NE.

EDIT:
The quarterback free agent class this year, it's /really/ subpar. Who's available or has been signed? Mike Glennon? Josh McCown? Chase 78 passes in 7 years Daniel? the almighty buttfumble? Colin Kaepernick? Jay Cutler?
If you give up heaven and earth, maybe the Pats might consider giving up Garoppolo, but you don't even know if he can play outside of New England.

Fitzpatrick is, in all honesty, probably tied at the top of this free agent class or at least equal to it's best. This is filled with either guys who haven't played (Glennon, Daniel) Guys who are getting benched (Kaepernick, the buttfumble) and players who throw interceptions all the time (Cutler, Kaepernick, Fitzpatrick)

[Ranoria]

And I think it's safe to say that the Texans are a far more talented team than Fitzpatrick has played with in the past, so it would be interesting to see what he could do in Houston.

Fitzpatrick, in my opinion, is at the end of the road. Even in that 2015 season where he was /so close/ to the playoffs, and he honestly shouldn't have been since Matt Slater managed to say that he wouldn't receive the ball in overtime. Plus, Fitzpatrick managed to openly crap on a football field in that last game against the walking mediocrity of the Buffalo Bills. (Remember that game? 181 yards, 2 touchdowns, and 3 interceptions. All of which were in the fourth quarter. And he should've had like three more passes intercepted, but Buffalo managed to drop at least one easy interception)

Look at the stats:
Completion Percentage:59.6%
Yards:3,905
TD-INT: 31-15
Passer Rating: 88

He's managed to have a completion percentage over 60% four times (His highest has been between 60.6%-63.1% And those were his /best/ seasons. And in that season with the 63.1% completion, he had a 6-6 record, and had a season ending injury)

Fitzpatrick is, when you look at the /most important situations/, someone who is wildly inconsistent.

fitzpatrick and the NY Jets blew a 10-0 lead against the Patriots in the regular season in the 2016-2017 season. And this was with a very supsicious 2 point conversion being overturned against NE.

EDIT:
The quarterback free agent class this year, it's /really/ subpar. Who's available or has been signed? Mike Glennon? Josh McCown? Chase 78 passes in 7 years Daniel? the almighty buttfumble? Colin Kaepernick? Jay Cutler?
If you give up heaven and earth, maybe the Pats might consider giving up Garoppolo, but you don't even know if he can play outside of New England.

Fitzpatrick is, in all honesty, probably tied at the top of this free agent class or at least equal to it's best. This is filled with either guys who haven't played (Glennon, Daniel) Guys who are getting benched (Kaepernick, the buttfumble) and players who throw interceptions all the time (Cutler, Kaepernick, Fitzpatrick)

I definetely gree with his inconsistency. But at the same time, in that week 17 game, just remember that Brandon Marshall had three of the best passes, in a row, all of them ridiculously deep, land in his lap, and he dropped each one of them in the end zone from Ryan Fitzatrick. Not to mention, the Buffalo defense isn't all that awful. I'd say they're alright, and they did have Stephon freaking Gilmore back there.

Regardless, I agree with the inconsistency, but he's rarely had a good team around him. (He had a sub-par OL in 2015, two good recievers, and a running back who was very good that year), and that's the best team he's ever had by a long shot. I think he's good enough, if he plays well, to lead Houston to a Super Bowl. Hell, at his best, he can go toe to toe with Tom Brady, and he almost beat him this year, then the OL choked and let I think Don'ta Hightower (or Sheard, or SOMEONE) go completely unblocked and he got strip sacked.

[Trollgaard]

And I think it's safe to say that the Texans are a far more talented team than Fitzpatrick has played with in the past, so it would be interesting to see what he could do in Houston.

Should the Texans swing a trade for Tony Romo?

They should have, he retired today.

[GreatestBanks]

Fitzpatrick, in my opinion, is at the end of the road. Even in that 2015 season where he was /so close/ to the playoffs, and he honestly shouldn't have been since Matt Slater managed to say that he wouldn't receive the ball in overtime. Plus, Fitzpatrick managed to openly crap on a football field in that last game against the walking mediocrity of the Buffalo Bills. (Remember that game? 181 yards, 2 touchdowns, and 3 interceptions. All of which were in the fourth quarter. And he should've had like three more passes intercepted, but Buffalo managed to drop at least one easy interception)

Look at the stats:
Completion Percentage:59.6%
Yards:3,905
TD-INT: 31-15
Passer Rating: 88

He's managed to have a completion percentage over 60% four times (His highest has been between 60.6%-63.1% And those were his /best/ seasons. And in that season with the 63.1% completion, he had a 6-6 record, and had a season ending injury)

Fitzpatrick is, when you look at the /most important situations/, someone who is wildly inconsistent.

fitzpatrick and the NY Jets blew a 10-0 lead against the Patriots in the regular season in the 2016-2017 season. And this was with a very supsicious 2 point conversion being overturned against NE.

EDIT:
The quarterback free agent class this year, it's /really/ subpar. Who's available or has been signed? Mike Glennon? Josh McCown? Chase 78 passes in 7 years Daniel? the almighty buttfumble? Colin Kaepernick? Jay Cutler?
If you give up heaven and earth, maybe the Pats might consider giving up Garoppolo, but you don't even know if he can play outside of New England.

Fitzpatrick is, in all honesty, probably tied at the top of this free agent class or at least equal to it's best. This is filled with either guys who haven't played (Glennon, Daniel) Guys who are getting benched (Kaepernick, the buttfumble) and players who throw interceptions all the time (Cutler, Kaepernick, Fitzpatrick)

I definetely gree with his inconsistency. But at the same time, in that week 17 game, just remember that Brandon Marshall had three of the best passes, in a row, all of them ridiculously deep, land in his lap, and he dropped each one of them in the end zone from Ryan Fitzatrick. Not to mention, the Buffalo defense isn't all that awful. I'd say they're alright, and they did have Stephon freaking Gilmore back there.

Regardless, I agree with the inconsistency, but he's rarely had a good team around him. (He had a sub-par OL in 2015, two good recievers, and a running back who was very good that year), and that's the best team he's ever had by a long shot. I think he's good enough, if he plays well, to lead Houston to a Super Bowl. Hell, at his best, he can go toe to toe with Tom Brady, and he almost beat him this year, then the OL choked and let I think Don'ta Hightower (or Sheard, or SOMEONE) go completely unblocked and he got strip sacked.

/Three interceptions/
Those dropped passes were Brandon Marshall's fault, but three INTs in the fourth quarter with the game on the line and playoff contention on the line, is not something that you can say was not his fault. Plus, he had another pass that definitely should've been intercepted but bounced off of a Buffalo defender.

Here's the thing with comparing people on different teams:
Could Cody Kessler win playoff games in New England? Sure. If Ryan Fitzpatrick had David Andrews under center, Antonio Brown as WR, and a JJ Watt led defense, would he do better? Absolutely! If x player's head coach was Bill Belichick, would the team be better? Yes! But that is the problem, would x player improve the team, or would the team and system improve the player?

He can maybe go toe to toe with Brady /sometimes/, on his absolute best days. And then next game he can throw three interceptions and no touchdowns in a 0-27 loss. In the AFC Championship, Fitzpatrick led Houston vs New England (assuming the rosters are the same as now) I'd give the Patriots a 38-27 win or better margin. Fitzpatrick just isn't clutch and isn't consistent enough to pull off that great of a playoff run.

[Outer Sparta]

I definetely gree with his inconsistency. But at the same time, in that week 17 game, just remember that Brandon Marshall had three of the best passes, in a row, all of them ridiculously deep, land in his lap, and he dropped each one of them in the end zone from Ryan Fitzatrick. Not to mention, the Buffalo defense isn't all that awful. I'd say they're alright, and they did have Stephon freaking Gilmore back there.

Regardless, I agree with the inconsistency, but he's rarely had a good team around him. (He had a sub-par OL in 2015, two good recievers, and a running back who was very good that year), and that's the best team he's ever had by a long shot. I think he's good enough, if he plays well, to lead Houston to a Super Bowl. Hell, at his best, he can go toe to toe with Tom Brady, and he almost beat him this year, then the OL choked and let I think Don'ta Hightower (or Sheard, or SOMEONE) go completely unblocked and he got strip sacked.

/Three interceptions/
Those dropped passes were Brandon Marshall's fault, but three INTs in the fourth quarter with the game on the line and playoff contention on the line, is not something that you can say was not his fault. Plus, he had another pass that definitely should've been intercepted but bounced off of a Buffalo defender.

Here's the thing with comparing people on different teams:
Could Cody Kessler win playoff games in New England? Sure. If Ryan Fitzpatrick had David Andrews under center, Antonio Brown as WR, and a JJ Watt led defense, would he do better? Absolutely! If x player's head coach was Bill Belichick, would the team be better? Yes! But that is the problem, would x player improve the team, or would the team and system improve the player?

He can maybe go toe to toe with Brady /sometimes/, on his absolute best days. And then next game he can throw three interceptions and no touchdowns in a 0-27 loss. In the AFC Championship, Fitzpatrick led Houston vs New England (assuming the rosters are the same as now) I'd give the Patriots a 38-27 win or better margin. Fitzpatrick just isn't clutch and isn't consistent enough to pull off that great of a playoff run.

Fitzpicktrick always seems to throw interceptions regardless, and he's a mediocre quarterback at best.

[Ranoria]

I definetely gree with his inconsistency. But at the same time, in that week 17 game, just remember that Brandon Marshall had three of the best passes, in a row, all of them ridiculously deep, land in his lap, and he dropped each one of them in the end zone from Ryan Fitzatrick. Not to mention, the Buffalo defense isn't all that awful. I'd say they're alright, and they did have Stephon freaking Gilmore back there.

Regardless, I agree with the inconsistency, but he's rarely had a good team around him. (He had a sub-par OL in 2015, two good recievers, and a running back who was very good that year), and that's the best team he's ever had by a long shot. I think he's good enough, if he plays well, to lead Houston to a Super Bowl. Hell, at his best, he can go toe to toe with Tom Brady, and he almost beat him this year, then the OL choked and let I think Don'ta Hightower (or Sheard, or SOMEONE) go completely unblocked and he got strip sacked.

/Three interceptions/
Those dropped passes were Brandon Marshall's fault, but three INTs in the fourth quarter with the game on the line and playoff contention on the line, is not something that you can say was not his fault. Plus, he had another pass that definitely should've been intercepted but bounced off of a Buffalo defender.

Here's the thing with comparing people on different teams:
Could Cody Kessler win playoff games in New England? Sure. If Ryan Fitzpatrick had David Andrews under center, Antonio Brown as WR, and a JJ Watt led defense, would he do better? Absolutely! If x player's head coach was Bill Belichick, would the team be better? Yes! But that is the problem, would x player improve the team, or would the team and system improve the player?

He can maybe go toe to toe with Brady /sometimes/, on his absolute best days. And then next game he can throw three interceptions and no touchdowns in a 0-27 loss. In the AFC Championship, Fitzpatrick led Houston vs New England (assuming the rosters are the same as now) I'd give the Patriots a 38-27 win or better margin. Fitzpatrick just isn't clutch and isn't consistent enough to pull off that great of a playoff run.

Yes, he threw three picks. I'm not arguing that Ryan Fitzpatrick is an elite QB. I am arguing that he's far better than anything Houston has. And if you watch the Jets Patriots games, one of which he won, that man was playing lights out, which he is more than capable of doing. I've seen it. As for the system thing, both. Like I said, he's a huge step up from anything that Houston has, and Houston has the best team he'd have ever played with.

Also, the italics thing is

[GreatestBanks]

/Three interceptions/
Those dropped passes were Brandon Marshall's fault, but three INTs in the fourth quarter with the game on the line and playoff contention on the line, is not something that you can say was not his fault. Plus, he had another pass that definitely should've been intercepted but bounced off of a Buffalo defender.

Here's the thing with comparing people on different teams:
Could Cody Kessler win playoff games in New England? Sure. If Ryan Fitzpatrick had David Andrews under center, Antonio Brown as WR, and a JJ Watt led defense, would he do better? Absolutely! If x player's head coach was Bill Belichick, would the team be better? Yes! But that is the problem, would x player improve the team, or would the team and system improve the player?

He can maybe go toe to toe with Brady /sometimes/, on his absolute best days. And then next game he can throw three interceptions and no touchdowns in a 0-27 loss. In the AFC Championship, Fitzpatrick led Houston vs New England (assuming the rosters are the same as now) I'd give the Patriots a 38-27 win or better margin. Fitzpatrick just isn't clutch and isn't consistent enough to pull off that great of a playoff run.

Yes, he threw three picks. I'm not arguing that Ryan Fitzpatrick is an elite QB. I am arguing that he's far better than anything Houston has. And if you watch the Jets Patriots games, one of which he won, that man was playing lights out, which he is more than capable of doing. I've seen it. As for the system thing, both. Like I said, he's a huge step up from anything that Houston has, and Houston has the best team he'd have ever played with.

Also, the italics thing is

You're right that he's better than Houston's non-draft options. He's better than Tom Savage. Him at Houston would probably make it a 10-6 or 11-5 team.

[Ranoria]

Yes, he threw three picks. I'm not arguing that Ryan Fitzpatrick is an elite QB. I am arguing that he's far better than anything Houston has. And if you watch the Jets Patriots games, one of which he won, that man was playing lights out, which he is more than capable of doing. I've seen it. As for the system thing, both. Like I said, he's a huge step up from anything that Houston has, and Houston has the best team he'd have ever played with.

Also, the italics thing is

You're right that he's better than Houston's non-draft options. He's better than Tom Savage. Him at Houston would probably make it a 10-6 or 11-5 team.

11-5 or 12-4. Consider the #1 defense coming back, this time with one of the greatest defensive players in NFL history, and easily the best of our era. Their run and pass defense are going to improve as a result of his presence, even with AJ Bouye's departure. Fitzpatrick is ten times the quarterback Osweiler is, and twice the QB Tom Savage is. He'd be able to at least use the weapons available to him.

[Marado]

And I think it's safe to say that the Texans are a far more talented team than Fitzpatrick has played with in the past, so it would be interesting to see what he could do in Houston.

Should the Texans swing a trade for Tony Romo?

Romo retired, I heard. Maybe, they should go for Rodgers or Rapistberger?

[Idzequitch]

Should the Texans swing a trade for Tony Romo?

Romo retired, I heard. Maybe, they should go for Rodgers or Rapistberger?

Rodgers and Roethlisberger are far too central to their teams to be traded. Roethlisberger will end his career in Pittsburgh, and I'd be surprised if Rodgers ever leaves Green Bay. You don't see too many top tier QB's get traded, because everyone wants to hoard them once they have one. After all, it's almost impossible to make the Super Bowl without one.

Case in point, since 2003, only one QB who was not named Brady, P. Manning, or Roethlisberger has represented the AFC in the Super Bowl. Manning is the only one of the three who ever switched teams, and that was as a free agent. One doesn't simply trade for a top QB.

[GreatestBanks]

You're right that he's better than Houston's non-draft options. He's better than Tom Savage. Him at Houston would probably make it a 10-6 or 11-5 team.

11-5 or 12-4. Consider the #1 defense coming back, this time with one of the greatest defensive players in NFL history, and easily the best of our era. Their run and pass defense are going to improve as a result of his presence, even with AJ Bouye's departure. Fitzpatrick is ten times the quarterback Osweiler is, and twice the QB Tom Savage is. He'd be able to at least use the weapons available to him.

They would stomp through the AFC south with a half decent quarterback. Idk about playoffs

[Ranoria]

11-5 or 12-4. Consider the #1 defense coming back, this time with one of the greatest defensive players in NFL history, and easily the best of our era. Their run and pass defense are going to improve as a result of his presence, even with AJ Bouye's departure. Fitzpatrick is ten times the quarterback Osweiler is, and twice the QB Tom Savage is. He'd be able to at least use the weapons available to him.

They would stomp through the AFC south with a half decent quarterback. Idk about playoffs

I wouldn't say stomp. Titans are a threat if they draft a good WR, a good corner would turn around that secondary in one season. Colts CAN beat anybody with Luck, doesn't mean they will. Jags suck.

[United Kingdom of Poland]

You can get away with crime if you're talented and add value to a team

Same with the Patrick Kane case in the NHL. No evidence found on his rape incident. That would be due to his value in Chicago.

or you know, there being no real evidence in the first place.

[Ranoria]

Should the Texans swing a trade for Tony Romo?

Romo retired, I heard. Maybe, they should go for Rodgers or Rapistberger?

If they want to give up Watt, Johnathen Joseph, Mercilus, and Joseph plus three first round picks, then maybe.

[GreatestBanks]

Romo retired, I heard. Maybe, they should go for Rodgers or Rapistberger?

If they want to give up Watt, Johnathen Joseph, Mercilus, and Joseph plus three first round picks, then maybe.

http://cover32.com/2017/04/01/buffalo-b ... w-england/
XD

[Trumpostan]

The Seahawks GM should be drug tested, imho.

[Ranoria]

If they want to give up Watt, Johnathen Joseph, Mercilus, and Joseph plus three first round picks, then maybe.

http://cover32.com/2017/04/01/buffalo-b ... w-england/
XD

LOLOLOL

The Seahawks GM should be drug tested, imho.

He's not trading Richard Sherman, he's just saying that talks have occurred. They occur with a lot of players.

[GreatestBanks]

Guys I think I'm pulling a Tony Romo. I kicked a field goal in the middle of the street, then after the ball went up into the air, I fell on my ass and left hand. Now both of them hurt like hell. Then I did some push ups and I think I screwed up something in my back.

[The Royal Kingdom of Quebec]

The Seahawks GM should be drug tested, imho.

Trading Sherman...That's a weird idea.

Guys I think I'm pulling a Tony Romo. I kicked a field goal in the middle of the street, then after the ball went up into the air, I fell on my ass and left hand. Now both of them hurt like hell. Then I did some push ups and I think I screwed up something in my back.

Tribute to Tony, lol.