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by Mezonpotania » Mon Mar 27, 2017 11:57 am
by Camicon » Mon Mar 27, 2017 11:58 am
Anywhere Else But Here wrote:Camicon wrote:And how would you propose we deal with the population boom? With people never leaving the workforce? The strain it would place on pension programs?
[EDIT] Don't forget the old, rich bastards like the Koch's fucking around for another hundred years.
Perpetual warfare.
Pensions are only an issue if the body ages.
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by Socio Polor » Mon Mar 27, 2017 11:59 am
Major-Tom wrote:Whenever transhumanism or immortality gets brought up, I'm the one salty asshole who says: Fuck no.
I guarantee that if immortality is ever remotely possible, which I doubt, it will bring about such a large scale social upheaval throughout the world. Not only do we lack the infrastructure, resources, or stability to hold a bunch more people, cost will be an issue.
People who can't afford whatever it is to become immortal will inevitably be pissed and do some really awful things. Immortality brings about a whole batch of issues I can think of. I am firmly against it.
To clarify, I realize actual immortality is a near impossibility. But making a normal lifespan even 20 years longer throughout the world on average could be very, very problematic...
by Major-Tom » Mon Mar 27, 2017 11:59 am
Socio Polor wrote:Major-Tom wrote:Whenever transhumanism or immortality gets brought up, I'm the one salty asshole who says: Fuck no.
I guarantee that if immortality is ever remotely possible, which I doubt, it will bring about such a large scale social upheaval throughout the world. Not only do we lack the infrastructure, resources, or stability to hold a bunch more people, cost will be an issue.
People who can't afford whatever it is to become immortal will inevitably be pissed and do some really awful things. Immortality brings about a whole batch of issues I can think of. I am firmly against it.
To clarify, I realize actual immortality is a near impossibility. But making a normal lifespan even 20 years longer throughout the world on average could be very, very problematic...
If we can reverse the aging in mice, then I'm absolutely we can do it with us humans since we share similar DNA with mice.
by Washington Resistance Army » Mon Mar 27, 2017 11:59 am
by Soldati Senza Confini » Mon Mar 27, 2017 12:00 pm
Major-Tom wrote:Whenever transhumanism or immortality gets brought up, I'm the one salty asshole who says: Fuck no.
I guarantee that if immortality is ever remotely possible, which I doubt, it will bring about such a large scale social upheaval throughout the world. Not only do we lack the infrastructure, resources, or stability to hold a bunch more people, cost will be an issue.
People who can't afford whatever it is to become immortal will inevitably be pissed and do some really awful things. Immortality brings about a whole batch of issues I can think of. I am firmly against it.
To clarify, I realize actual immortality is a near impossibility. But making a normal lifespan even 20 years longer throughout the world on average could be very, very problematic...
Tekania wrote:Welcome to NSG, where informed opinions get to bump-heads with ignorant ideology under the pretense of an equal footing.
by Major-Tom » Mon Mar 27, 2017 12:01 pm
Soldati Senza Confini wrote:Major-Tom wrote:Whenever transhumanism or immortality gets brought up, I'm the one salty asshole who says: Fuck no.
I guarantee that if immortality is ever remotely possible, which I doubt, it will bring about such a large scale social upheaval throughout the world. Not only do we lack the infrastructure, resources, or stability to hold a bunch more people, cost will be an issue.
People who can't afford whatever it is to become immortal will inevitably be pissed and do some really awful things. Immortality brings about a whole batch of issues I can think of. I am firmly against it.
To clarify, I realize actual immortality is a near impossibility. But making a normal lifespan even 20 years longer throughout the world on average could be very, very problematic...
I mean, I will be honest, I'd be fine with new technology used for medical purposes.
I am one of those people who'd rather see others be healed of their illness rather than die in a ditch.
But this whole "WE'RE ALL GOING TO BE IMMORTAL, WEEEE!", not a big partisan of it.
by Camicon » Mon Mar 27, 2017 12:01 pm
Socio Polor wrote:Major-Tom wrote:Whenever transhumanism or immortality gets brought up, I'm the one salty asshole who says: Fuck no.
I guarantee that if immortality is ever remotely possible, which I doubt, it will bring about such a large scale social upheaval throughout the world. Not only do we lack the infrastructure, resources, or stability to hold a bunch more people, cost will be an issue.
People who can't afford whatever it is to become immortal will inevitably be pissed and do some really awful things. Immortality brings about a whole batch of issues I can think of. I am firmly against it.
To clarify, I realize actual immortality is a near impossibility. But making a normal lifespan even 20 years longer throughout the world on average could be very, very problematic...
If we can reverse the aging in mice, then I'm absolutely we can do it with us humans since we share similar DNA with mice.
Country of glowing hearts, and patrons of the artsThe Trews, Under The Sun
Help me out
Star spangled madness, united sadness
Count me out
No human is more human than any other. - Lieutenant-General Roméo Antonius Dallaire
Don't shine for swine. - Metric, Soft Rock Star
Love is hell. Hell is love. Hell is asking to be loved. - Emily Haines and the Soft Skeleton, Detective Daughter
by Soldati Senza Confini » Mon Mar 27, 2017 12:02 pm
Tekania wrote:Welcome to NSG, where informed opinions get to bump-heads with ignorant ideology under the pretense of an equal footing.
by Novus America » Mon Mar 27, 2017 12:02 pm
by Socio Polor » Mon Mar 27, 2017 12:03 pm
by Mezonpotania » Mon Mar 27, 2017 12:03 pm
Mezonpotania wrote:We are now one step closer to being timelords!
I am already working on a prototype infinite power source!
Plan:
Make spaceships!
Get infinite power source to power it!
Use chemical to live long enough to get to Trappist one star system!
That is how we deal with overpopulation!
by Genivaria » Mon Mar 27, 2017 12:05 pm
Super Sol Republic wrote:Tyrassueb wrote:Scientists Can Reverse DNA Aging in Mice
Immortality appears to be mere years away if the human research pans out.
Ehh, Captalism will just ruin it anyway, they will sell bottles of this for 300 bucks a piece I betcha
by Novus America » Mon Mar 27, 2017 12:07 pm
Camicon wrote:
My brother will have a full military pension by the time he is forty. He gets that for the rest of his life. What happens if he gets a drug that lets him live til he's 150? How do current pension plans cope with people working for twenty - thirty, forty - years, and then living for another 100?
Living longer is great, but we as a species need to become a helluva lot better at living sustainably, or the trouble it brings is going to outweigh the benefits.
by Novus America » Mon Mar 27, 2017 12:09 pm
by Victoria and Vacuna » Mon Mar 27, 2017 12:11 pm
Proctopeo wrote:Hey, this might extend lives long enough for young people today to get the next life-extending treatment.
by Novus America » Mon Mar 27, 2017 12:15 pm
Soldati Senza Confini wrote:Novus America wrote:If getting cancer means you live 120 instead of 80 years? Yes you might want it.
Plus how is using this to live longer worse than anything else?
And again the point is moot, enforcement is impossible so at the very least it will be used widely for longer lifespans at least by the rich. You cannot stop it.
It's not, per se, worse, but you have as others have pointed out, the issue of overpopulation, scarcity, and so on.
We're already stretching the blanket a bit too thin. The bigger problem here is how much thinner can we stretch it.
Enforcement is possible. The only thing that you're arguing is "the rich will get access to it". If you regulate it for gene therapy it won't, but then you'll have to deal with cancer. So it's either get cancer to get this treatment, or go on with a normal life.
And getting cancer is not all that funny either. So it's not like we're talking about something like "Oh well, let me get a soccer ball and play at the park".
by Socio Polor » Mon Mar 27, 2017 12:17 pm
by Soldati Senza Confini » Mon Mar 27, 2017 12:18 pm
Novus America wrote:Soldati Senza Confini wrote:
It's not, per se, worse, but you have as others have pointed out, the issue of overpopulation, scarcity, and so on.
We're already stretching the blanket a bit too thin. The bigger problem here is how much thinner can we stretch it.
Enforcement is possible. The only thing that you're arguing is "the rich will get access to it". If you regulate it for gene therapy it won't, but then you'll have to deal with cancer. So it's either get cancer to get this treatment, or go on with a normal life.
And getting cancer is not all that funny either. So it's not like we're talking about something like "Oh well, let me get a soccer ball and play at the park".
Tell me how well our drug enforcement is going. Banning something does not eliminate it, and a lot of countries will not ban this.
Tekania wrote:Welcome to NSG, where informed opinions get to bump-heads with ignorant ideology under the pretense of an equal footing.
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