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by Greater Allidron » Sun Mar 26, 2017 4:31 pm
by The Akasha Colony » Sun Mar 26, 2017 4:39 pm
Greater Allidron wrote:I left out the part where the nobles only make up a minority portion of my quadicameral legislature.
3/4ths majority of the assembly is needed to veto the Emperor's bill.
Imperial Assembly of Allidron: 837 total seats
98 imperial appointments
227 nobles
311 proportionally elected representatives
201 economic interest seats (WIP)
So essentially I could achieve land reform during the Second World War when over 75% of my country was occupied by foreign powers.
by The Soodean Imperium » Sun Mar 26, 2017 4:57 pm
Allanea wrote:In a modern economy I question the role of land reform, or even land in general.
There's only very little money to be made in being a small farmer, no matter how hard you try, unless you're growing illegal drugs I guess. Splitting up the land that is owned by major nobles into lots of tiny little lots will not really achieve anything for te people who will own the farms, and it is likely that within a decade or two the land will end up consolidated again.
The Akasha Colony wrote:Wartime is probably the worst time to be bothering with any serious land reform. You have other pressing concerns, especially if three-quarters of your country is under foreign occupation.
by DnalweN acilbupeR » Sun Mar 26, 2017 5:02 pm
Gallia- wrote:"Anti-partisan" and "counter-commando" is just code for "fewer armaments and inferior carriers". The National Gendarmerie are the only gendarmerie/internal troops unit I'm aware of that had something approximating a tank and it was basically a generic European armored car to replace the AML 60s. At least it could kill tanks, though. Most gendarmeries would be lucky to stop a mechanized infantry platoon, but a competently driven BTR-60 (or LAV-150) will put a Special Forces ODA (GRU Spetsnas), SEAL platoons (PDSS), or Al-Qaeda in a world of hurt to varying degrees.
Though I guess the reason that the Gendarmerie had VBC-90s was really to kill the BMDs and ASU-85s that would form the bulk of armored support for the VDV. Considering their role would be broadly similar to many other military internal security troops in wartime i.e. protection of vital national infrastructure, destruction of enemy special forces and airlanding troops, and rear area security, that seems a reasonable assumption.
The only other option seems to be 40mm AGLs, unless the MVD was packing T-62s or something, but that seems unlikely since the SEALs and Green Berets don't drive around in tanks.
The Emerald Dawn wrote:I award you no points, and have sent people to make sure your parents refrain from further breeding.
Lyttenburgh wrote:all this is a damning enough evidence to proove you of being an edgy butthurt 'murican teenager with the sole agenda of prooving to the uncaring bitch Web, that "You Have A Point!"
Lyttenburgh wrote:Either that, or, you were gang-raped by commi-nazi russian Spetznaz kill team, who then painted all walls in your house in hammer and sickles, and then viped their asses with the stars and stripes banner in your yard. That's the only logical explanation.
by Gallia- » Sun Mar 26, 2017 5:08 pm
by DnalweN acilbupeR » Sun Mar 26, 2017 5:16 pm
Gallia- wrote:Training to use disposable launchers is an expensive waste of money.
The Emerald Dawn wrote:I award you no points, and have sent people to make sure your parents refrain from further breeding.
Lyttenburgh wrote:all this is a damning enough evidence to proove you of being an edgy butthurt 'murican teenager with the sole agenda of prooving to the uncaring bitch Web, that "You Have A Point!"
Lyttenburgh wrote:Either that, or, you were gang-raped by commi-nazi russian Spetznaz kill team, who then painted all walls in your house in hammer and sickles, and then viped their asses with the stars and stripes banner in your yard. That's the only logical explanation.
by The Soodean Imperium » Sun Mar 26, 2017 5:21 pm
by Greater Allidron » Sun Mar 26, 2017 5:26 pm
The Akasha Colony wrote:Greater Allidron wrote:I left out the part where the nobles only make up a minority portion of my quadicameral legislature.
3/4ths majority of the assembly is needed to veto the Emperor's bill.
Imperial Assembly of Allidron: 837 total seats
98 imperial appointments
227 nobles
311 proportionally elected representatives
201 economic interest seats (WIP)
So essentially I could achieve land reform during the Second World War when over 75% of my country was occupied by foreign powers.
I'm not sure you understand what the "cameral" part of "quadricameral" means.
"Quadricameral" would mean that you have four separate legislative assemblies, not that the people are selected or elected via four different means. You appear to only have a single "Imperial Assembly," which would make it a unicameral legislature.
Not like it matters that much. You're fixating too much on the wrong aspects of reform. Wartime is probably the worst time to be bothering with any serious land reform. You have other pressing concerns, especially if three-quarters of your country is under foreign occupation.
by The Akasha Colony » Sun Mar 26, 2017 5:30 pm
The Soodean Imperium wrote:http://iiwiki.com/wiki/Public_Housing_in_the_Soodean_Imperium
New article, possibly rushed but I had time to spare today so I wanted to make sure I got the approach right. I tried to follow Gallia and Questers's advice by focusing on a sub-topic (again, this began life as a section of "Housing in the Soodean Imperium" which also mixed in walls of text on traditional home design) and keeping each paragraph to about 2-4 sentences that focus on a main point. I also added bullets and a table to break up the wall of text, and sidebar images for decoration.
Does this address most of the problems in the last one? Is there anything else I should work on, stylistically speaking?
by Questers » Mon Mar 27, 2017 1:58 am
Excellent! This is what I would consider a first-class wikipedia article.The Soodean Imperium wrote:http://iiwiki.com/wiki/Public_Housing_in_the_Soodean_Imperium
New article, possibly rushed but I had time to spare today so I wanted to make sure I got the approach right. I tried to follow Gallia and Questers's advice by focusing on a sub-topic (again, this began life as a section of "Housing in the Soodean Imperium" which also mixed in walls of text on traditional home design) and keeping each paragraph to about 2-4 sentences that focus on a main point. I also added bullets and a table to break up the wall of text, and sidebar images for decoration.
Does this address most of the problems in the last one? Is there anything else I should work on, stylistically speaking?
by The Soodean Imperium » Mon Mar 27, 2017 6:27 am
Questers wrote:Excellent! This is what I would consider a first-class wikipedia article.The Soodean Imperium wrote:http://iiwiki.com/wiki/Public_Housing_in_the_Soodean_Imperium
New article, possibly rushed but I had time to spare today so I wanted to make sure I got the approach right. I tried to follow Gallia and Questers's advice by focusing on a sub-topic (again, this began life as a section of "Housing in the Soodean Imperium" which also mixed in walls of text on traditional home design) and keeping each paragraph to about 2-4 sentences that focus on a main point. I also added bullets and a table to break up the wall of text, and sidebar images for decoration.
Does this address most of the problems in the last one? Is there anything else I should work on, stylistically speaking?
Questers wrote:Now put on == See also ==
[[Category:The Soodean Imperium]]
Questers wrote:I agree with Akasha btw. 250px is a good standard size.
The Akasha Colony wrote:IMO, from a formatting perspective, choosing a consistent image size is helpful. I prefer 250px personally for horizontal images, which it looks like you've also used in your main article already.
Questers wrote:edit: one really autistic point. Wikipedia page names follow common/proper noun distinction. It should be Public housing in the Soodean Imperium. The opening line already recognises this, so there you are.
by The Akasha Colony » Mon Mar 27, 2017 10:13 am
The Soodean Imperium wrote:Is this convention, or just opinion? Because personally I feel that some variation in image size looks better than having everything in a uniform column at the same width.
I also realized that I'm viewing this on a 1920x1080 screen, so 250px looks rly tiny for me but these are probably enormous images for everyone else
I really need to figure out how to make a "[Country] topics" box...
by Prosorusiya » Mon Mar 27, 2017 11:46 am
by Austrasien » Mon Mar 27, 2017 12:23 pm
Prosorusiya wrote:I've noticed that Internal Ministry troops in both Ukraine & Russia have been conspicuously better prepared\preforming than the actual Army, does anybody know why this would be the case? I didn't think they had particularly better men or equipment, so is it just that the Army is only really mobilized when there is a war on, and thus internal troops are better prepared on a moments notice?
by Prosorusiya » Mon Mar 27, 2017 2:07 pm
by Purpelia » Mon Mar 27, 2017 2:11 pm
Prosorusiya wrote:Ah, I see. I guess that make sense... why wouldn't they just become officers in the regular Army, though? Do they just not want to bother with the extra study and cost of OCS?
by Allanea » Mon Mar 27, 2017 2:53 pm
by Austrasien » Mon Mar 27, 2017 2:59 pm
Prosorusiya wrote:Ah, I see. I guess that make sense... why wouldn't they just become officers in the regular Army, though? Do they just not want to bother with the extra study and cost of OCS?
by Austrasien » Mon Mar 27, 2017 3:10 pm
Allanea wrote:Would it be feasible, in a country with first-world infrastructure, to produce really awful (in terms of taste) alcohol for a cost of $2 per litre or so, and have it be more or less safe to drink? I'm assuming at this point it's just ethyl alcohol, some water, and some food coloring.
by Crookfur » Mon Mar 27, 2017 3:29 pm
Allanea wrote:Would it be feasible, in a country with first-world infrastructure, to produce really awful (in terms of taste) alcohol for a cost of $2 per litre or so, and have it be more or less safe to drink? I'm assuming at this point it's just ethyl alcohol, some water, and some food coloring.
by Dostanuot Loj » Mon Mar 27, 2017 3:33 pm
Allanea wrote:Would it be feasible, in a country with first-world infrastructure, to produce really awful (in terms of taste) alcohol for a cost of $2 per litre or so, and have it be more or less safe to drink? I'm assuming at this point it's just ethyl alcohol, some water, and some food coloring.
by Allanea » Mon Mar 27, 2017 3:36 pm
by The Soodean Imperium » Mon Mar 27, 2017 3:42 pm
The Akasha Colony wrote:The Soodean Imperium wrote:Is this convention, or just opinion? Because personally I feel that some variation in image size looks better than having everything in a uniform column at the same width.
I can't say that 250px is convention on IIWiki, since there basically aren't any conventions on IIWiki. But standard photo widths are convention on Wikipedia. If you look at a few random samples, you'll notice that horizontal images of "conventional" proportions are all of the same size. In fact, if you look at the wikicode, the current implementation actually removes the need to specify a width at all for most images; they are automatically sized to the default width (200px). Only images that are not to be displayed at the standard width (certain maps, very wide images, infobox images etc.) deviate from this convention. IIWiki has this functionality too but the default width seems to be a measly 100px or thereabouts and IMO this is way too small.
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The pictures honestly look really big anyway even for me, especially the first one at the top which seems to dominate the header. I suppose a good rule of thumb is that whatever size you pick to standardize on, it shouldn't be larger than something you'd put into an infobox like on a military article or something. When they get too big, they start distracting from the text and dominating the section and when they vary in size they can get distracting (at least to me) because people may start wondering why one image is larger than another; is one photograph of public housing more important than another? Is there something in particular we're supposed to see at a glance in these large photos that justifies their size?
Or is it just that no attention was paid to standards and conventions? Long-time Wikipedians treat adherence to standards and conventions like religious commandments and will often judge each other on uniformity of format and style. I'm not meaning to be rude or insulting or anything, but when I see large images of different sizes on an article, it always gives a hint of sloppiness in my mind, as if the author couldn't be bothered to apply some standard formatting and style guidelines. I know in your case it was a conscious decision and not an omission of laziness, but it's a style that is most often seen coming from those authors who don't know or don't care how to properly format.
The Akasha Colony wrote:You can just take an existing one and pick apart the table code. The indentations in Questers' table code for sub-boxes makes it easier to read, unlike mine which doesn't have any indentations.
The Akasha Colony wrote:And I second Questers' suggestion of a ==See also== section at the end, and of course categorizing. Visually, it helps close out the article rather than having it just abruptly end right there, especially for anyone used to reading real Wikipedia articles, which usually have these sections. It also helps tie the wiki together which IMO IIWiki could use some help with since it's really fragmented.
by Dostanuot Loj » Mon Mar 27, 2017 3:47 pm
Allanea wrote:Can you do this with hard liquor, as I described? I am envisioning it would ship in GIANT containers at retail, where you'd just order a huge bunch of it at $10 and get loldrunk and destroy your liver.
by Allanea » Mon Mar 27, 2017 4:01 pm
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