Hearts of Darkness (Alt-History, Nation) OOC | OPEN

[Deramen]

Ithalian, stay out or else I might have to call in more and more friends of mine.

Remember, I do have big friends.

Or I could bribe you to stay out.

I just want to make sure that you understand that I'm kind of your bitch for now, until I do anything to directly antagonize you, then you have no reason to attack. I'm basically a satellite right now.

That's actually all I want.

I just want you to "coordinate your policy's with mine." if you understand.

Nothing more, nothing less.

Ithalian, stay out or else I might have to call in more and more friends of mine.

Remember, I do have big friends.

Or I could bribe you to stay out.

Da.

If I help give you Persian clay (And maybe drive off the Austro-Hungarian horde), could you perhaps let me puppet Serbia and Bulgaria?

Ehhhh.

If I allow them to be independant somewhat, then all the other Balkan nations will want freedom and then shit really hits the fan.

[Anowa]

I just want to make sure that you understand that I'm kind of your bitch for now, until I do anything to directly antagonize you, then you have no reason to attack. I'm basically a satellite right now.

That's actually all I want.

I just want you to "coordinate your policy's with mine." if you understand.

Nothing more, nothing less.

Da.

If I help give you Persian clay (And maybe drive off the Austro-Hungarian horde), could you perhaps let me puppet Serbia and Bulgaria?

Ehhhh.

If I allow them to be independant somewhat, then all the other Balkan nations will want freedom and then shit really hits the fan.

Listen. Shit'll hit the fan with the Balkans regardless. Better to have them puppeted by an ally then wandering off into the forest on their own.

[Deramen]

That's actually all I want.

I just want you to "coordinate your policy's with mine." if you understand.

Nothing more, nothing less.

Ehhhh.

If I allow them to be independant somewhat, then all the other Balkan nations will want freedom and then shit really hits the fan.

Listen. Shit'll hit the fan with the Balkans regardless. Better to have them puppeted by an ally then wandering off into the forest on their own.

Better to have them be under one person then them all fighting each other and shit.

I'll deal with the Balkans my own way, I dont need the Russians to come in and deal with it.

[Anowa]

Listen. Shit'll hit the fan with the Balkans regardless. Better to have them puppeted by an ally then wandering off into the forest on their own.

Better to have them be under one person then them all fighting each other and shit.

I'll deal with the Balkans my own way, I dont need the Russians to come in and deal with it.

>Try to make WWI less of a clusterfuck
>Try and make it so Serbia's at least with the 'Entente'
>Dera blocks that shit like I'm a 3 year old in a wheel chair and he's Lebron
K.

[Deramen]

Better to have them be under one person then them all fighting each other and shit.

I'll deal with the Balkans my own way, I dont need the Russians to come in and deal with it.

>Try to make WWI less of a clusterfuck
>Try and make it so Serbia's at least with the 'Entente'
>Dera blocks that shit like I'm a 3 year old in a wheel chair and he's Lebron
K.

Look, I have my own way of doing it which will end with a peaceful release of the Balkan nations.

[Anowa]

>Try to make WWI less of a clusterfuck
>Try and make it so Serbia's at least with the 'Entente'
>Dera blocks that shit like I'm a 3 year old in a wheel chair and he's Lebron
K.

Look, I have my own way of doing it which will end with a peaceful release of the Balkan nations.

Fair enough.

[Deramen]

Look, I have my own way of doing it which will end with a peaceful release of the Balkan nations.

Fair enough.

Yeah, I have a plan and your idea would kinda fuck it over.

[Anowa]

Fair enough.

Yeah, I have a plan and your idea would kinda fuck it over.

I'll go back to planning how to make a peaceful Communist revolution about thirty years early.

[Sivio]

Yeah, I have a plan and your idea would kinda fuck it over.

I'll go back to planning how to make a peaceful Communist revolution about thirty years early.

I was thinking of becoming a fascist Gran Colombia.

[Da Klan]

Nationstates Name:Da Klan
Nation Name:The Union of Caribbean States
Flag (Optional):
Governing Ideology: Democracy (Democracy, Oligarchy, Monarchy, Autocracy)
Leader(s):President Rafael Martinez
Territorial Claims: Cuba, Puerto Rico (if not taken by the U.S.), and the Bahamas (If this is too much I can remove some of these nations) (These must be adjacent to one another.)
Population:Cuba-1,000,000
Puerto Rico-350,000
Bahamas-155,500
Total Population:1,505,500
95% of the country identify as Catholic, while the other 5% hold onto beliefs from their homelands
Runaway and Freed African slaves make up 20% of the Union, with most of them located in the Bahamas. 3% of the population is Chinese, located in Puerto Rico. The Taino people make up 5% of the population, with most of them being concentrated in Cuba. The rest of the country is diverse.
Land Forces: 6,022 loyal soldiers in the Union
Naval Forces: 24,088 loyal seamen in the Union
The current administration run by President Rafael Martinez puts an emphasis on the security of the Union's territorial waters, believing that a strong navy equals a strong nation.
10 clippers
5 cargo ships
1 sloop of war
120 small gunboats
Some of these boats were captured by pirates in the late 18th century and early 19th century. Some of them were decommissioned or upgraded once the Union was formed, while others were sold to young privateers.The Letter of Marque is issued by the Union during wartime.

Point of Divergence: The Battle of Nassau in 1720 was won by the Spanish backed militias. A war for independence was fought and won 80 years after the victory. Puerto Rico and Cuba fell from Spanish hands in 1860 due to slave revolts, independence revolts, and the Bahamas posing as an irritation for the Spaniards. (1700 or Later)
History: After the Bahamas gained independence, it used much of its resources towards funding privateers and guerrilla forces in Cuba, Puerto Rico, and the Dominican Republic. The Dominican Republic militias failed miserably, while the Cuban and Puerto Rican rebellions showed promise. The Bahamas focused on developing their nation until 1852, when the independence movements in Puerto Rico and Cuba slowly started to become more fruitful. The Bahamas then slowly started to help these movements by using privateers as well as the passions of many abolitionists to fuel the fire of the independence movements.
The Union of Caribbean States was founded on September 14th, 1860 by a coalition of rebelling slaves, guerrilla soldiers, farmers, privateers, and the Bahamas against the Spaniards. The Bahamas took control of both territories and established the tools necessary for each state to become a democracy. However due to growing tensions all across the world, it was decided by a 78% vote that the three nations will be united as one to preserve democracy in the Caribbean.
Jose Garcia was the first President of the Union, elected on November 1st, 1860, taking control of the nation. He was impeached on 1865 by the Caribbean Parliament due to his hawkish attitudes along with him attempting to pass laws that would essentially legalize slavery again as well as restrict free speech. His Vice President, Ana Rosas led the country until she was assassinated by Spanish loyalists on 1869. On 1870, Rafael Martinez became the third President of the Union, with a popularity rating of 86% when he took office on Jan 1st, 1870. (Two Paragraphs Minimum)
Culture: Spanish is the most spoken and official language (English is the second official language of the Bahamas). Heavy Spanish influence is in the Union. It can be seen in the architecture and in the clothing. Influences from the indigenous people as well as from the former slaves can be seen in the food as well as the many cultural festivals and art. American and Confederate culture has some influence in the Bahamas.
Theme: (Optional)

This is kind of how the government operates. The Union of Caribbean States (Unión de Estados del Caribe) is a representative democracy with a tricameral legislature called the Caribbean Parliament. The houses in the legislature consists of the House of Cuba (Casa de Cuba), the House of the Bahamas (Casa de las Bahamas during), and the House of Puerto Rico (Casa de Puerto Rico). Each House has 35 seats in total. Each house represents each of the three states in the Union, with the Governor of each state leading each of the Houses. They decide on laws and have the ability to declare war and issue Letters of Marque. All three Houses must have a majority vote of yes on a law that will impact at least 20% of the population. The President is elected by the population, using a First Past The Post style of voting. The President can serve for an unlimited amount of terms as long as they get elected each time they run. A term in the Union is classified as ten years unless the leader is impeached by the Parliament. The President has the ability to select Governors, pardon or punish anybody placed on trial, hire/fire judges (only during the first year of the term), and fire/hire diplomats and military leaders. The President can overrule a judge, while the Caribbean Parliament can overrule the President, while the Parliament can be overruled by the Governors, while the Governors can be overruled by the districts, which can be overruled by the city, which can be overruled by the population. Nassau is the capital city of the Bahamas and for the Executive Branch of the President (judges are considered a part of the Executive Branch), while Havana is the Capital City for the Caribbean Parliament and Cuba. San Juan is the capital city of Puerto Rico, and considered the Capital City of the Union of Caribbean States where the Executive Branch and the Legislative Branch meet once a year (unless during emergencies) on the date of January 1st and return to their respective cities on January 10th.
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Sorry if it is kinda short. Anything to improve on?

[Ithalian Empire]

Balkan clay, possible satellites, oil, and ally! What could go wrong!

I am tempted.

Ithalian, stay out or else I might have to call in more and more friends of mine.

Remember, I do have big friends.

Or I could bribe you to stay out.

What would you bribe me with?

[The New Greek Republic]

I just want to make sure that you understand that I'm kind of your bitch for now, until I do anything to directly antagonize you, then you have no reason to attack. I'm basically a satellite right now.

That's actually all I want.

I just want you to "coordinate your policy's with mine." if you understand.

Nothing more, nothing less.

Well, despite having nationalistic leaders, I'm no position to be going against you for the time being. Until I can muster up the military might, financial ability, and diplomatic profile to go against you, then I'm just going to be your bitch for the foreseeable future.

[Zanera]

So it doesn't get swallowed in several pages of planning.

Nationstates Name: Zanera

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Nation Name: Switzerland
Governing Ideology: Democracy. Federal Republic.
Leader(s): Jakob Dubs
Territorial Claims: Switzerland after the Congress of Vienna (same borders today) (disregard the airports thing)
Population: 2,550,000
Land Forces: 76,500 Active, 1,148 Reserve, 77,648 Total (When Conscripted)
Naval Forces: 3 Schooners (Relatively Inactive), Used for land bombardment from lakes.

Point of Divergence: None (so far).
History: The Old Swiss Confederacy was established in 1315 and continued on until 1798, where it was turned into the Helvetic Republic. In 1712 the Toggenburg War was fought between Zurich and Bern, Protestant cantons, along with the Protestant subjects of Toggenburg, against the Catholic cantons. It was simultaneously a civil and religious war, and ultimately shifted the power from the Catholic cantons to the Protestant cantons. However, the cantons in general brought equality of either religious preference before the law, and gave religious freedoms. During this long period Switzerland was generally France's ally, although the Protestant cantons sometimes vied for the attention of Prussia. Ultimately, in 1777, the alliance was renewed with favorable terms for Switzerland, such as the recognition of Switzerland's independence. There was a rise of a certain form of nobility in these years. Switzerland was a hotspot in the Age of Enlightenment, with Leonhard Euler being the most notable scientist. The writings of Jean-Jacques Rousseau during his stay in Geneva sparked a flood of tourism to Switzerland.

In the 1790s the Revolutionary Wars of the French, the French and their Republican armies began charging eastward, and by 1798, Switzerland was overrun, with little resistance from the Swiss people. Soon after the Helvetic Republic was set up, abolishing feudal laws and any sovereignty the cantons had, as well as limiting freedoms of worship. A rebel army marched against the French, but established a truce. The Helvetic Republic frequently experienced coup-attempts, and it largely required the French army to help maintain control. It was made so that the local populaces of Switzerland would have to support the French soldiers, which bore down on the economy, and Switzerland was no longer a neutral state. Austria, Russia, and French armies repeatedly fought battles in Switzerland in 1799, making Switzerland another battle-zone against Napoleon, with the Swiss refusing to aid the French or the Helvetic Republic. By 1802, instability grew to such an extent, and the Helvetic Republic was so much in debt, that it eventually collapsed. The Act of Mediation restored the confederacy and removed the central government.

A delegation of the 19 cantons met to discuss writing a new constitution in the Tagsatzung (Long Diet), but were largely unsuccessful at deciding. Sending a delegation to Vienna for the Congress of Vienna, Switzerland ultimately gained a few new lands. With the resurgence of Napoleon, the Swiss were inclined to let allied powers through Swiss lands, and the Swiss and Austrian armies besieged a French fortress near Bern, which had opened fire on the city. Soon the Treaty of Paris came around, and Switzerland was heavily affected. It received some financial compensation and a small land gain, but it also received the recognition as being a neutral state by every European power. The Tagsatzung met to come up with a replacement constitution, and the cantons began to restore feudal rights and such in 1814, and there were many rebellions against these laws. In 1815 the Tagsatzung got re-organized by the Federal Treaty. The Federal Diet was overtaken by the Free Democratic Party of Switzerland, a liberal party, that came from majority Protestant cantons. They drew up a new constitution with progressive measures and increased centralisation of government, but were also anti-Catholic. The majority Catholic cantons reeled from these measures, and formed the Sonderbund in 1845. The Catholic cantons ignoring several calls by the Federal Diet to disband the Sonderbund, in 1847 the Sonderbund War erupted.

The largely rural Catholic cantons were at several automatic disadvantages at the beginning of the war, and soon the Sonderbund had lost. The victorious Potestant cantons invited the Catholic ones to reform the federal constitution to be more like the American one. The Jesuits were expelled from Switzerland, and the central parliament now decided on national matters. In 1848 Switzerland assumed a federal constitution because of the 1847 civil war.
Culture: Protestants and Catholics with a long history of conflict and a new spirit of democracy and cooperation
Theme: (Optional)

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[The Orson Empire]

He can start a faction though within the US territories though.

That is true, but the app he posted is one for a nation.

Hey Idaho, is my app for the faction accepted?

[The Intergalactic Russian Empire]

Heavily WIP

Nationstates Name: The Intergalactic Russian Empire
Nation Name: Federal Republic of the United Netherlands, United Dutch Provinces
Flag (Optional):

Governing Ideology: Federal Constitutional Republic
Leader(s): President
Territorial Claims: The orange
Population: Mainland Pop: 8,606,000
Land Forces: 400,000 men
Naval Forces: Naval Manpower: 10,000
Ship Total: 100
3 Ironclads

Point of Divergence: 1830
History: With no help from the French crown (as the July Revolution was in full swing), the rebels in Belgium were quickly quelled by the Dutch government, but a revolution of another kind was starting to brew. Ideals of the French Revolution which once had spilled into the Netherlands and started the Batavian Revolution now sparked to life again.
Culture: Dutch and Belgian, mix of Catholics and Protestants.
Theme: (Optional)

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[Imperial Idaho]

Nationstates Name: Orson
Group Name: Manifest Destiny Party
Flag (Optional): MDP Flag
Governing Ideology: Democratic on paper, but has autocratic tendencies in practice
Movement Type: Nationalist, revanchist, far-right political party
Leaders: Chairman Gerald Hudson
Territorial Claims / Occupied Areas: Strong bases of support in the unincorporated American territories and rural areas in the U.S. proper, as well as several major cities in the U.S. proper. Their headquarters is located in New York City.
Population: Approximately 1,000,000 official members as of 1870
Personnel: 50,000 people are employed in the "Security Operations" wing of the MDP, and they are tasked with providing security to important party members, local party offices, and party rallies.

Point of Divergence (if any): 1863, end of American Civil War
History: The Manifest Destiny Party was founded by Gerald Hudson, a former major general in the U.S. Army, in 1864. Hudson greatly detested the way the war ended and the fact that the Confederate States had been allowed to walk away with their independence. Hudson argued that the army had been "stabbed in the back" by the U.S. government (especially the Republican Party), and blamed them for completely botching the war and allowing the great American Experiment to be shattered. The Republicans proved to be very unpopular in the 1864 election and fell into obscurity; seeking to take advantage of the new power vacuum, Hudson put together the beginnings of the MDP.

Hudson was greatly inspired by the idea of manifest destiny (which the party is named after), which was a belief that American settlers were destined to expand across North America. Hudson expanded the original idea, claiming that it was the United States's "manifest destiny" to reconquer the rebellious southern states, restore order, and re-establish itself as the predominant major power in the Americas. Hudson was also a strict Abolitionist, believing that slavery was a cruel and evil institution and that it should be permanently abolished. The Party gained extraordinary ground over the next six years, winning many seats in the House of Representatives and the Senate, winning hundreds of state upper chamber and lower chamber seats, and even state governorship's. By 1870, it was one of the main dominant political parties in the United States, filling in the void that the Republican Party had left.

The MDP first attracted disgruntled soldiers who supported Hudson's stabbed-in-the-back legend, but later expanded to the middle and lower classes (including African Americans) and some of the upper class, as the MDP supported policies that would end the economic depression in the U.S. and help the common man. The MDP's party platform would also become more extreme over the years, with Hudson and his political committee using the threat of the Confederate States as an impetus to gain more support. The MDP also began to engage in clandestine projects to further weaken and divide the people of the Confederate States; for example, they have been providing clandestine aid to the Underground Railroad, and are even rumored to be funding terror attacks and slave revolts in the South.

The MDP's hatred of Southerners has grown to be so extreme that they support open discrimination against any Southerner in the U.S., believing them to all be "traitors" and "enemies of the state".

Culture: American
Theme:

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Accepted.

[Deramen]

Balkan clay, possible satellites, oil, and ally! What could go wrong!

I am tempted.

Ithalian, stay out or else I might have to call in more and more friends of mine.

Remember, I do have big friends.

Or I could bribe you to stay out.

What would you bribe me with?

What do you want?

[Deramen]

Holy Christ guys, make your pictures smaller.

Jesus I have to scroll a good bit just to see the writing which is usually relatively short.

[Ithalian Empire]

I am tempted.



What would you bribe me with?

What do you want?

Serbia and Montenegro.

[Deramen]

What do you want?

Serbia and Montenegro.

....


Like I also own Bosnia.

That'll fuck the borders up so much.

Nationstates Name: Tay-Tay
Nation Name: Royal French Empire
Flag (Optional): Bourbon French flag
Governing Ideology: Constitutional Monarchy
Leader(s): Louis XIX (19)
Territorial Claims: France, Haiti, England, Wales, Australia, Vietnam, French Guiana, and Corsica.
Population: 69,000,069
Land Forces: 400,000 infantry (1/4 heavy, 3/4 light), 75,000 cavalry, 25,000 artillery
Naval Forces: 400 (15,iron class, two dozen man 'o wars, the rest an even mixture of Friggates, brigs, and schooners) Warships, 300 supply ships, troop ships, ect

Point of Divergence: 1804 (I believe)
History: Napoleon I managed to minimalize losses Russia with his Grand Army, using well established and defended supply lines while he made his deep incursion in Russia. Instead of loosing hundreds of thousands of soldiers, he only lost thousands in open conflict before retreating, killing three Russian solders for every French solder.. It was then when he solidified his name as emperor of France and Europe. He pushed his borders as far as he could, into parts of Africa and Asia, until he died of an unknown disease in 1817. When his son, Napoleon II took power, it all ca,e crashing down.

The nationalism of many countries finally seeped through, with the fear of Napoleon I all but dispersed. After leading a string of bad military campaigns in Africa, the Western American territories, and Russia among others, he tried to cut his losses. He failed, and was exicuted by a mob of angry peasants in Austria when his guard abandoned him. It was then when Louis XVII swept in.

Crushing the newly formed slave republic in Haiti with a new Grand Army of 150,000 soldiers and a fleet of 200 ships, Louis fixed the economy. What happened to Haiti was brutal. The surviving population was forcibly removed, killing all the men, and selling the women and children to South American countries to get rid of any possible chance of a revolt. Then new slaves were shipped in from Africa, as well as more French soldiers to keep the population balance more in order.

With the largest sugar and coffee producer claimed, France built it's empire further by taking Corsica, and cementing it's pacific holdings. When Ireland and Scotland seceded from the UK, France was quick to act. A full scale invasion on England was launched, and in it's weakened state, England couldn't hold onto their island, and lost. Any remaining English and Welsh military assets were absorbed into the French military, and England and Wales now exists as a heavily policed dependant state.

With the exception of Australia, all of Britain's remaining colonies were granted autonomy, and France focused on improving their Naval power to help oversee their growing colonial empire. While not as powerful as the Royal Navy once was, it still stands as a force to be reckoned with.

There exists an uneasy peace with Spain, and Italy, and high tensions along the Franc-Garmanic border, as well as the tensions growing on the British Isles. Any day now, France is getting ready to launch a war in any direction, or even all of them if things get bad. However they call upon their allies and colonies for support, and their citizens to volunteer for the military, growing every day.
Culture: The French people are highly nationalized, and their culture revolves around natural rights given to them by the revolution. If any one person has any of their rights revoked, they are probable to cause a large fuss about it, giving that this person has Caucasian genetics. Slavery is still commonplace in the colonies to provide cheap labor, and there is a constitution drafted by the representatives of the people to separate the branches of government. If the majority of the French people feel that the monarchy is over powered, they will unite to overthrow them, however the people's intrests don't land far off of the king's.
Theme: TBD

ID TAG 1997 (DO NOT REMOVE)

WIP until I crunch some numbers.

@Pimps Inc, France invaded Britian and Wales pretty much right when Scotland and Ireland revolted, and didn't invade the new nation states that formed because of this, and gave most British colonies autonomy. Let's say that Louis XIIX (18 if I'm correct with my Roman numerals) set up your empire, and I'll adjust my app to fit around your app.

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[Ithalian Empire]

Serbia and Montenegro.

....


Like I also own Bosnia.

That'll fuck the borders up so much.

/quote]

Let the boardr gore flow baby. Unless you want to shed the dead weight that is Bosnia as well.

[Deramen]

....


Like I also own Bosnia.

That'll fuck the borders up so much.

Let the boardr gore flow baby. Unless you want to shed the dead weight that is Bosnia as well.

Umm, no.

Sorry Ithalian it doesn't quite work like that.

[Ithalian Empire]

Let the boardr gore flow baby. Unless you want to shed the dead weight that is Bosnia as well.

Umm, no.

Sorry Ithalian it doesn't quite work like that.

I kid.

In all honesty, what would you be willing to give me to keep me out of the Balkans?

[Deramen]

Umm, no.

Sorry Ithalian it doesn't quite work like that.

I kid.

In all honesty, what would you be willing to give me to keep me out of the Balkans?

Bosnia.

Maybe Yugoslavia under Montenegro and Serbia as a puppet but that's me being super nice.

[Da Klan]

Is my app okay? Do I need to remove or add anything?