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by Camicon » Sun Mar 19, 2017 8:59 pm
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by Oneracon » Mon Mar 20, 2017 2:48 pm
Napkiraly wrote:I'm seeing more media outlets flaunt Chong as the best candidate for the Conservatives, which is nice. I question their ability to change the minds of Conservative Party members however.
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by Major-Tom » Sun Mar 26, 2017 10:27 am
Napkiraly wrote:I'm seeing more media outlets flaunt Chong as the best candidate for the Conservatives, which is nice. I question their ability to change the minds of Conservative Party members however.
by Collatis » Sun Mar 26, 2017 10:51 am
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by Oneracon » Sun Mar 26, 2017 1:14 pm
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Pro: | LGBTQ+ rights, basic income, secularism, gun control, internet freedom, civic nationalism, non-military national service, independent Scotland, antifa |
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by Collatis » Sun Mar 26, 2017 3:06 pm
Oneracon wrote:Collatis wrote:I must say that the opposition to M-103 baffles me. Similar motions have previously been passed, with Tory support, condemning antisemitism, discrimination against Coptic Christians, etc.
Tories have realized that fearmongering is fun and easy, it seems.
It's funny that they had no problem unanimously passing a motion (It's under Routine proceedings > Multiculturalism) from Tom Mulcair in October 2016 that moved "That the House join the 69,742 Canadian supporters of House of Commons e-petition e-411 in condemning all forms of Islamophobia."
PRO: social democracy, internationalism, progressivism, democracy,
republicanism, human rights, democratic socialism, Keynesianism,
EU, NATO, two-state solution, Democratic Party, Bernie Sanders
CON: conservatism, authoritarianism, totalitarianism, neoliberalism,
death penalty, Marxism-Leninism, laissez faire, reaction, fascism,
antisemitism, isolationism, Republican Party, Donald Trump
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by Major-Tom » Sun Mar 26, 2017 5:19 pm
by Oneracon » Sun Mar 26, 2017 5:51 pm
Major-Tom wrote:Collatis wrote:I must say that the opposition to M-103 baffles me. Similar motions have previously been passed, with Tory support, condemning antisemitism, discrimination against Coptic Christians, etc.
I can see how it might be an issue. After all, it condemns Islamophobia without defining it, and seems to only serve as a symbolic gesture. Its just kinda a display of the arrogance of the Trudeau government, how they'll act all "positive" and "fresh" without really doing anything else.
Not that I want it to be more than a symbolic gesture, otherwise actual issues would arise.
Regardless, I like Chong.
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by Great Franconia and Verana » Mon Mar 27, 2017 1:28 pm
by Camicon » Mon Mar 27, 2017 2:44 pm
Great Franconia and Verana wrote:This woman is an absolute disgrace.
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by Great Franconia and Verana » Mon Mar 27, 2017 3:49 pm
Camicon wrote:Great Franconia and Verana wrote:This woman is an absolute disgrace.
An unequivocal moron.
by Oneracon » Mon Mar 27, 2017 5:47 pm
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by Camicon » Mon Mar 27, 2017 6:07 pm
Oneracon wrote:So apparently Bernier wants to deploy the military along our borders as an "additional temporary measure".
Meanwhile, Boston man does not understand how the Canadian constitution works.
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by Union of Despotistan » Mon Mar 27, 2017 6:22 pm
Oneracon wrote:So apparently Bernier wants to deploy the military along our borders as an "additional temporary measure".
Meanwhile, Boston man does not understand how the Canadian constitution works.
by Camicon » Mon Mar 27, 2017 6:38 pm
Union of Despotistan wrote:Oneracon wrote:So apparently Bernier wants to deploy the military along our borders as an "additional temporary measure".
Meanwhile, Boston man does not understand how the Canadian constitution works.
I really like what I read abou Bernier lately. He seems well poised to compete for the top spot on the Conservative party. I hope he'll beat O'Leary and win this.
Using the military to repel illegals is a good start. But more will need to be done as we start to have repercussions from the US policy toward illegal immigrants.
We must not stand by and let the Liberals tell us that it's our duty or some kind of other phony reason to let them stay.
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by Nocturnalis » Mon Mar 27, 2017 6:42 pm
Camicon wrote:I have no interest in our military violating the Charter rights of the most vulnerable sectors of our society, just because some folks are afraid of brown people.
by Camicon » Mon Mar 27, 2017 7:05 pm
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by Nocturnalis » Mon Mar 27, 2017 7:19 pm
by Oneracon » Tue Mar 28, 2017 9:42 am
Union of Despotistan wrote:Oneracon wrote:So apparently Bernier wants to deploy the military along our borders as an "additional temporary measure".
Meanwhile, Boston man does not understand how the Canadian constitution works.
I really like what I read abou Bernier lately. He seems well poised to compete for the top spot on the Conservative party. I hope he'll beat O'Leary and win this.
Using the military to repel illegals is a good start. But more will need to be done as we start to have repercussions from the US policy toward illegal immigrants.
We must not stand by and let the Liberals tell us that it's our duty or some kind of other phony reason to let them stay.
Nocturnalis wrote:Camicon wrote:They are, whether you like it or not. But we aren't talking about illegal immigrants, we're talking about refugees.
1 - No, they are not. They are a parasitic underclass that could not be bothered to obey our laws yet expect the same respect we afford legal immigrants and citizens. Our society is more than justified in removing them, as one would remove a parasite from their body.
2 - You mean the "refugees" running across the border illegally? Nah, they are essentially the same as illegals. Both show utter contempt for our laws and society, and should be treated accordingly,
If people want to come here, then they should do so legally. If they want us to accept and respect them, then they should show us and our country respect first - and that starts by following our laws.
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Anti: | Social conservatism, laissez-faire capitalism, NuAtheism, PETA, capital punishment, Putin, SWERF, TERF, GamerGate, "Alt-right" & neo-Nazism, Drumpf, ethnic nationalism, "anti-PC", pineapple on pizza |
by Camicon » Tue Mar 28, 2017 9:49 am
Nocturnalis wrote:Camicon wrote:They are, whether you like it or not. But we aren't talking about illegal immigrants, we're talking about refugees.
1 - No, they are not. They are a parasitic underclass that could not be bothered to obey our laws yet expect the same respect we afford legal immigrants and citizens. Our society is more than justified in removing them, as one would remove a parasite from their body.
2 - You mean the "refugees" running across the border illegally? Nah, they are essentially the same as illegals. Both show utter contempt for our laws and society, and should be treated accordingly,
If people want to come here, then they should do so legally. If they want us to accept and respect them, then they should show us and our country respect first - and that starts by following our laws.
Country of glowing hearts, and patrons of the artsThe Trews, Under The Sun
Help me out
Star spangled madness, united sadness
Count me out
No human is more human than any other. - Lieutenant-General Roméo Antonius Dallaire
Don't shine for swine. - Metric, Soft Rock Star
Love is hell. Hell is love. Hell is asking to be loved. - Emily Haines and the Soft Skeleton, Detective Daughter
by Nation of Quebec » Tue Mar 28, 2017 4:28 pm
Oneracon wrote:So apparently Bernier wants to deploy the military along our borders as an "additional temporary measure".
Great Franconia and Verana wrote:This woman is an absolute disgrace.
by Great Franconia and Verana » Tue Mar 28, 2017 5:12 pm
Nation of Quebec wrote:Oneracon wrote:So apparently Bernier wants to deploy the military along our borders as an "additional temporary measure".
The more I hear about Bernier, the less I like him.
If I were Conservative I'd still go for Chong, who is the only respectable one left in the race.
by Oneracon » Fri Mar 31, 2017 10:05 am
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