The Meeting in Kendor [AllTech|Open]

by **Populi-Terrae** » Thu Mar 16, 2017 5:39 pm

"Cloning for the purposes of warfare is wrong",

by **Valgora** » Thu Mar 16, 2017 5:40 pm

Populi-Terrae wrote:
Valgora wrote:
"To be honest, the only group that has to worry about that is the 32% pony population. They can't eat meat nearly as much as humans and furries (anthro-beings). In fact, we just went though a famine. Well... they went through a famine. Didn't have enough grown food. Plus, many nations are willing to let their morals slide when it comes to trading."

My condolences, but my point of view stands. Human experimentation, unless it is done with the subject's consent, is barbaric.

"But what if the subject did something barbaric himself? What if he was a terrorist, or a rapist? Plus, it's not just humans we experiment on. There's three sentient species in Valgora. Doing it on just humans would be speciesist."

by **Graag Brom** » Thu Mar 16, 2017 5:40 pm

Populi-Terrae wrote:
Valgora wrote:
"To be honest, the only group that has to worry about that is the 32% pony population. They can't eat meat nearly as much as humans and furries (anthro-beings). In fact, we just went though a famine. Well... they went through a famine. Didn't have enough grown food. Plus, many nations are willing to let their morals slide when it comes to trading."

My condolences, but my point of view stands. Human experimentation, unless it is done with the subject's consent, is barbaric.

"Don't let a Telvanni Wizard hear you say that unless you are looking to become the subject of their next experiment and they tend to use prisoners for their experiments."

by **Etnicon** » Thu Mar 16, 2017 5:41 pm

Populi-Terrae wrote:
Valgora wrote:
"To be honest, the only group that has to worry about that is the 32% pony population. They can't eat meat nearly as much as humans and furries (anthro-beings). In fact, we just went though a famine. Well... they went through a famine. Didn't have enough grown food. Plus, many nations are willing to let their morals slide when it comes to trading."

My condolences, but my point of view stands. Human experimentation, unless it is done with the subject's consent, is barbaric.

"Maybe we should Figure some kind of solution to this Problem...." Eyeless the 3rd

by **Zeon Refounded** » Thu Mar 16, 2017 5:41 pm

Populi-Terrae wrote:"Cloning for the purposes of warfare is wrong",

"I am a clone, created for war and politics."- Nerhig Ibaz

by **Populi-Terrae** » Thu Mar 16, 2017 5:41 pm

Valgora wrote:
Populi-Terrae wrote:
My condolences, but my point of view stands. Human experimentation, unless it is done with the subject's consent, is barbaric.

"But what if the subject did something barbaric himself? What if he was a terrorist, or a rapist? Plus, it's not just humans we experiment on. There's three sentient species in Valgora. Doing it on just humans would be speciesist."

You try them in a court of law and sentence them to a humane punishment.

by **Populi-Terrae** » Thu Mar 16, 2017 5:42 pm

Zeon Refounded wrote:
Populi-Terrae wrote:"Cloning for the purposes of warfare is wrong",

"I am a clone, created for war and politics."

"Tell me. Can your clones decide how they want to conduct their lives?"

by **TURTLESHROOM II** » Thu Mar 16, 2017 5:42 pm

{ OOC: Is this the new thread? }

by **Valgora** » Thu Mar 16, 2017 5:42 pm

Populi-Terrae wrote:
Valgora wrote:
"But what if the subject did something barbaric himself? What if he was a terrorist, or a rapist? Plus, it's not just humans we experiment on. There's three sentient species in Valgora. Doing it on just humans would be speciesist."

You try them in a court of law and sentence them to a humane punishment.

"Of course we try them in a court of law. We just sentence them to a more fitting punishment."

by **Zeon Refounded** » Thu Mar 16, 2017 5:43 pm

Populi-Terrae wrote:"Tell me. Can your clones decide how they want to conduct their lives?"

"Yes. Very few things are forbidden to them."

by **Valgora** » Thu Mar 16, 2017 5:43 pm

TURTLESHROOM II wrote:{ OOC: Is this the new thread? }

OOC: No
But possibly somewhat yes.

by **Valgora** » Thu Mar 16, 2017 5:43 pm

Zeon Refounded wrote:
Populi-Terrae wrote:"Tell me. Can your clones decide how they want to conduct their lives?"

"Yes. Very few things are forbidden to them."

"So they are like a normal citizen? Except cloned."

by **Populi-Terrae** » Thu Mar 16, 2017 5:44 pm

"Good. That's what I wanted to hear. Cloning people for a single purpose is barbaric and is against their human rights",

by **Populi-Terrae** » Thu Mar 16, 2017 5:44 pm

Valgora wrote:
Populi-Terrae wrote:
You try them in a court of law and sentence them to a humane punishment.

"Of course we try them in a court of law. We just sentence them to a more fitting punishment."

"I guess someone forgot to tell you that justice is supposed to rehabilitate an inmate before punishing them, right?"

by **Etnicon** » Thu Mar 16, 2017 5:45 pm

Zeon Refounded wrote:
Populi-Terrae wrote:"Tell me. Can your clones decide how they want to conduct their lives?"

"Yes. Very few things are forbidden to them."

"hmmm.....Clones" Eyeless

by **Zeon Refounded** » Thu Mar 16, 2017 5:45 pm

Valgora wrote:
"So they are like a normal citizen? Except cloned."

"Exactly. Normal citizens with lots of brothers. Ask my guards by the door."

by **Higher Japan** » Thu Mar 16, 2017 5:45 pm

"We agree, so we thought:Why not just replace all clones with robots. And that's why our army can be rebuilt fast."

by **Valgora** » Thu Mar 16, 2017 5:47 pm

Populi-Terrae wrote:
Valgora wrote:
"Of course we try them in a court of law. We just sentence them to a more fitting punishment."

"I guess someone forgot to tell you that justice is supposed to rehabilitate an inmate before punishing them, right?"

"You can't rehabilitate a rapist, a murderer, or a fanatic Christian terrorist."

by **The Alexandrian Polis** » Thu Mar 16, 2017 5:47 pm

"Three years right? Valgora's current government has existed for that long? New regimes need to do a lot of questionable things in their early years to establish legitimacy. There was a time when republics were exempt from this requirement, but not anymore."

by **Whalestron** » Thu Mar 16, 2017 5:47 pm

"War is useless, I try to avoid it as much as possible." Chester commented while stirring his tea.

by **Valgora** » Thu Mar 16, 2017 5:48 pm

The Alexandrian Polis wrote:"Three years right? Valgora's current government has existed for that long? New regimes need to do a lot of questionable things in their early years to establish legitimacy. There was a time when republics were exempt from this requirement, but not anymore."

"Valgora's current government is not a regime."

by **Graag Brom** » Thu Mar 16, 2017 5:48 pm

Whalestron wrote:"War is useless, I try to avoid it as much as possible." Chester commented while stirring his tea.

"It was a war that got rid of the Aldmeri Dominion."

by **Zeon Refounded** » Thu Mar 16, 2017 5:48 pm

Higher Japan wrote:"We agree, so we thought:Why not just replace all clones with robots. And that's why our army can be rebuilt fast."

"I don't much care for non-sentient AI."

by **Populi-Terrae** » Thu Mar 16, 2017 5:48 pm

Valgora wrote:
Populi-Terrae wrote:
"I guess someone forgot to tell you that justice is supposed to rehabilitate an inmate before punishing them, right?"

"You can't rehabilitate a rapist, a murderer, or a fanatic Christian terrorist."

"Have you even tried? We're doing it and our efforts are successful",

by **Etnicon** » Thu Mar 16, 2017 5:49 pm

Higher Japan wrote:"We agree, so we thought:Why not just replace all clones with robots. And that's why our army can be rebuilt fast."

"That is a interesting Idea....if this is set in motion my industrial power could aid with supplying your nations with these Robot ive done it before"

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