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by Korva » Thu Mar 09, 2017 8:35 pm
EsToVnIa wrote:So I unironically like the G36 now, and I decided to go full blown :GAY: and use the 4.6x36mm for them. For DMR/LSW should i issue the MG36 or keep using like the HK21 or smth like that
by Gallan Systems » Thu Mar 09, 2017 8:37 pm
by Taihei Tengoku » Thu Mar 09, 2017 9:06 pm
EsToVnIa wrote:So I unironically like the G36 now, and I decided to go full blown :GAY: and use the 4.6x36mm for them. For DMR/LSW should i issue the MG36 or keep using like the HK21 or smth like that
by Gallan Systems » Thu Mar 09, 2017 9:47 pm
EsToVnIa wrote:So I unironically like the G36 now
by EsToVnIa » Thu Mar 09, 2017 10:35 pm
Korva wrote:EsToVnIa wrote:So I unironically like the G36 now, and I decided to go full blown :GAY: and use the 4.6x36mm for them. For DMR/LSW should i issue the MG36 or keep using like the HK21 or smth like that
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by Theodosiya » Fri Mar 10, 2017 1:03 am
EsToVnIa wrote:So I unironically like the G36 now, and I decided to go full blown :GAY: and use the 4.6x36mm for them. For DMR/LSW should i issue the MG36 or keep using like the HK21 or smth like that
by Fordorsia » Fri Mar 10, 2017 5:22 am
San-Silvacian wrote:Forgot to take off my Rhodie shorts when I went to sleep.
Woke up in bitches and enemy combatants.
Crookfur wrote:Speak for yourself, Crookfur infantry enjoy the sheer uber high speed low drag operator nature of their tactical woad
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by Purpelia » Fri Mar 10, 2017 5:38 am
by Crookfur » Fri Mar 10, 2017 5:57 am
Purpelia wrote:If you ask me the G36 is just another generic assault rifle. The only thing really awesome about it is the sight setup.
Speaking of awesome though here is an odd question. Can any of you name any successful roller locked gas operated weapons? As in gas piston or DI + rollers.
On a related note, roller locked, gas operated DP lookalike in 7.5 Swiss with a K31 style rear mounted bipod that in my case would double as a foregrip for hip firing for maximum easy dispersion in WW2. Y/N?
On another related note. How out of place would it be to have some mechanism by which said machinegun could have its bipod switched out between a front and rear position quickly by the user for different roles? I know it's not exactly a super modern concept but like its a niche thing to just randomly go research.
by Fordorsia » Fri Mar 10, 2017 6:02 am
Purpelia wrote:If you ask me the G36 is just another generic assault rifle.
San-Silvacian wrote:Forgot to take off my Rhodie shorts when I went to sleep.
Woke up in bitches and enemy combatants.
Crookfur wrote:Speak for yourself, Crookfur infantry enjoy the sheer uber high speed low drag operator nature of their tactical woad
Spreewerke wrote:One of our employees ate a raw kidney and a raw liver and the only powers he gained was the ability to summon a massive hospital bill.
Premislyd wrote:This is probably the best thing somebody has ever spammed.
Puzikas wrote:That joke was so dark it has to smile to be seen at night.
by Purpelia » Fri Mar 10, 2017 6:19 am
Crookfur wrote:Well the front and rear switchable bipod thing was done on the stg-57 and these days is super easy thanks to railz.
by Crookfur » Fri Mar 10, 2017 7:18 am
by Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Fri Mar 10, 2017 7:39 am
by Gallan Systems » Fri Mar 10, 2017 8:04 am
Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:very large magazine?
by DnalweN acilbupeR » Fri Mar 10, 2017 8:14 am
Purpelia wrote:DnalweN acilbupeR wrote:
Yes.. But still..
OK. Since you're the one who gave me the idea of spitzer Tokarevs, how do you use yours and in what weapons? Handguns y/n? And how do they relate to regular 7.62x25mm guns (if you use that at all) ?
My round is called the 7.5 Felix MSP. The MSP stands for Machine Assault (Sturm) Pistol, AKA submachine gun. That should really tell you all you need to know.
Basically the thing is not just a pointy 7.62TT. It's a pointy 7.62 TT P++23. So it falls into a category of pistol rounds similar to say .357 SIG. And it really is best suited to being fired from something that can make use of that superior powder load like a submachinegun/PDW. Which is what it was designed for to begin with. Yes, you can use it in a handgun (and I do). It's not going to take your arm off. But it's definitively not something I would issue to say a regular police officer who has to concern him self with things such as over penetration.
So how do I employ it? It's used primarily from a bullpup PDW by my SWAT/Counter Terror units, my special forces, the personal security of my dukes and in other similar roles. In my military the same PDW sees a limited use for helicopter pilots primarily. And you will see it some times employed in SIG P226 sized handguns from time to time with people like aircraft pilots who who can't well fit a PDW in the cockpit but don't really care about concealing their handgun either.
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by Purpelia » Fri Mar 10, 2017 9:32 am
DnalweN acilbupeR wrote:Ok.
But just as a note, I haven't fired one but the .357 SIG is not supposed to be some uber-high-pressure, SMG cartridge. AFAIK it was designed to replicate .357 Mag performance in a semi automatic pistol package. I mean according to :wikipedia: it's supposed to be less snappy than a .357 Magnum or 10mm Auto and more in line with a .40 S&W, which isn't much (around 9mm Parabellum ballpark or a little higher).
The .357 Sig I'd wager shares some characteristics with the 7.62x25mm Tokarev both being bottlenecked relatively high pressure/velocity and low-ish projectile mass cartridges, but different from microcalibers like FN's 5.7mm or HK's 4.6mm IMO. The former are more a combination with "traditional" handgun cartridges whereas the microcalibers go full retard and focus solely on armor penetration making for relatively lousy performance against unprotected targets (and, obviously, overpenetration probably). Otherwise everyone would be using them.
Would you think it would be practical to have both 7.62x25mm Tok "standard" and something akin to your 7.5 MSP in the same gun by just a mag/barrel swap? (and probably a recoil spring if recoil operated)?
by Kazarogkai » Fri Mar 10, 2017 9:54 am
by New Dutch Colonies » Fri Mar 10, 2017 9:55 am
EsToVnIa wrote:So I unironically like the G36 now, and I decided to go full blown :GAY: and use the 4.6x36mm for them. For DMR/LSW should i issue the MG36 or keep using like the HK21 or smth like that
by Crookfur » Fri Mar 10, 2017 1:51 pm
Kazarogkai wrote:Recoil vs gas operated LMG
From my various perusing and reading up on things related towards these matters I want to know the pros and cons between the two when it relates to this matter. From what I have read the German MG-34/42 was recoil operated and seems to have been pretty effective in it's role on the otherhand the American BAR and Czech ZB vz. 26 and kids were Gas Operated. From this I presume that Recoil is probably superior if you want a suppressive focused LMG with a high ROF; While Gas are better if you want something more offensive/accuracy focused. I'm just grasping at straws here so could anyone help in better informing me on the matter?
by Puzikas » Fri Mar 10, 2017 3:07 pm
Kazarogkai wrote:Recoil vs gas operated LMG
From my various perusing and reading up on things related towards these matters I want to know the pros and cons between the two when it relates to this matter. From what I have read the German MG-34/42 was recoil operated and seems to have been pretty effective in it's role on the otherhand the American BAR and Czech ZB vz. 26 and kids were Gas Operated. From this I presume that Recoil is probably superior if you want a suppressive focused LMG with a high ROF; While Gas are better if you want something more offensive/accuracy focused. I'm just grasping at straws here so could anyone help in better informing me on the matter?
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by Korva » Fri Mar 10, 2017 3:11 pm
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by Purpelia » Fri Mar 10, 2017 4:28 pm
Neo Balka wrote:Welp.
i just saw someone on NSG advocate for a field brothel.
Purp would be proud.
and i am no longer surprised by anything.
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