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Postby Stronk Russian States » Tue Feb 28, 2017 9:53 am

New Jaedonstan wrote:If they are invading and such, why don't we use their own weapons against them? Take them over and disband them forcibly like the security council motto?

Not a bad idea...
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Postby Lord Dominator » Tue Feb 28, 2017 9:56 am

New Jaedonstan wrote:So if nothing actually happens to the Black Hawks, what is the point of the Security Council? :?:

To hand out badges and occasionally liberate regions.
New Jaedonstan wrote:If they are invading and such, why don't we use their own weapons against them? Take them over and disband them forcibly like the security council motto?

Because
A) They have an active founder a WA delegate limited to the WA power, thus making them unraidable
B) Destroying their region wouldn't stop them from raiding, and would be at most a minor inconvenience.

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Postby New Jaedonstan » Tue Feb 28, 2017 11:23 am

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Kitzerland wrote:
New Jaedonstan wrote:If they are invading and such, why don't we use their own weapons against them? Take them over and disband them forcibly like the security council motto?

That would be really mean! Why would you do that?

Because they did it to others......

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Postby Kitzerland » Tue Feb 28, 2017 11:31 am

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Kitzerland wrote:That would be really mean! Why would you do that?

Because they did it to others......

Oh, so to punish them for something, you do it to them? That's hypocrisy. And literally impossible.
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Postby Naginii » Tue Feb 28, 2017 1:03 pm

One toothless condemnation didn't work, so y'all figure a second will do the trick?

Stamp disapproval all over them as often as you like. But until these Condemn things carry actual consequences for the condemned, y'all in here are the only ones that it'll matter to. TBH don't get an oak leaf cluster on their existing condemnation, and they'll continue to do what they've always done, but someone will get another badge for authorship.

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Postby St James and Leos Island » Tue Feb 28, 2017 1:43 pm

ladies and gentlemen please find if the black hawks are recruiting people and tell them they're a threat.

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Postby New Jaedonstan » Tue Feb 28, 2017 2:18 pm

St James and Leos Island wrote:ladies and gentlemen please find if the black hawks are recruiting people and tell them they're a threat.

They WONT NEED TO RECRUIT if we keep drawing attention to them! They ARE dangerous, so deal with them quietly.

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Postby New Jaedonstan » Tue Feb 28, 2017 2:21 pm

Kitzerland wrote:
New Jaedonstan wrote:[url][/url]
Because they did it to others......

Oh, so to punish them for something, you do it to them? That's hypocrisy. And literally impossible.

Sure, why not? Give 'em a taste of their own medicine. Or at least show that we are willing to resist them! I wouldn't condone it unless it was completely necessary. I mean, what happens when your region is conquered? Wouldn't you like your enemies to be punished and have revenge taken upon them? My country has been through a civil war and they are bloody. Invasion is much like that. So why not prevent it?

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Postby Raionitu » Tue Feb 28, 2017 2:23 pm

New Jaedonstan wrote:
St James and Leos Island wrote:ladies and gentlemen please find if the black hawks are recruiting people and tell them they're a threat.

They WONT NEED TO RECRUIT if we keep drawing attention to them! They ARE dangerous, so deal with them quietly.

Oh no, we're gonna get raided ...........
Oh wait, no we're not. TBH has been around over 11 years. If there was some way people could just 'make us go quietly' it would have happened a long time ago. Raiders of all people know what to do to stop a raid from happening.
Koth wrote:you guys are cool, like lately ive been watching the overal state of the raider world and been like,"ew", but you guys are very not ew
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Aguaria Major wrote:The Black Hawks is essentially a regional equivalent of Heath Ledger's Joker: they just want to watch the world burn
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Postby Empire of Cats » Tue Feb 28, 2017 7:58 pm

Is it possible to make a condemnation with an actual threat of Peacekeeping nations being sent in if they do not cease and desist?

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Postby Unics » Tue Feb 28, 2017 7:59 pm

So, can anyone fill me in on what's going on with the whole "Black Hawks" situation? I just joined today, and from the info I got from the bill, they sound pretty bad, but the whole story is still pretty unclear to me.

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Postby Crzeikstan » Tue Feb 28, 2017 7:59 pm

All the bad things they have done, I would vote yes. :bow:
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Postby Raionitu » Tue Feb 28, 2017 11:08 pm

Empire of Cats wrote:Is it possible to make a condemnation with an actual threat of Peacekeeping nations being sent in if they do not cease and desist?

Nope, the WA SC has no actual peacekeeping forces. The only actual effect they can have is to prevent delegates from making passwords.
Koth wrote:you guys are cool, like lately ive been watching the overal state of the raider world and been like,"ew", but you guys are very not ew
Reppy wrote:Swearing is just fucking fine on this goddamn fucking forum.
Aguaria Major wrote:The Black Hawks is essentially a regional equivalent of Heath Ledger's Joker: they just want to watch the world burn
Frisbeeteria wrote:Please stop.Please.
Souls wrote:Hi, I'm Souls. Have you embraced our lord and savior , Piling yet?
Souls wrote:Note to self: Watch out for Rai in my bedroom
Altinsane wrote:Me, about every suspiciously helpful newb I meet: "It's probably Rai."
Lord Dominator wrote:Koth is a drunken alternate personality of yours

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Postby Bhang Bhang Duc » Wed Mar 01, 2017 10:13 am


Well done The Stalker. Congrats TBH.
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Pierconium wrote:I see Funk as an opportunistic manipulator that utilises the means available to him to reach his goals. In other words, a nation after my own heart.

RiderSyl wrote:If an enchantress made it so one raid could bring about world peace, Unibot would ask raiders to just sign a petition instead.

Sedgistan wrote:The SC has just has a spate of really shitty ones recently from Northumbria, his Watermelon fanboy…..

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Postby Lord Dominator » Wed Mar 01, 2017 10:17 am

Congrats to TBH, Stalker.
TBH looks pretty spiffy with two Condemnation badges.

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Postby Raionitu » Wed Mar 01, 2017 10:45 am

WOOOOOOO
I'd like to thank all the little people that helped us get this far *looks at natives underfoot*

But seriously, thanks Dominator and Bhang Bhang
Koth wrote:you guys are cool, like lately ive been watching the overal state of the raider world and been like,"ew", but you guys are very not ew
Reppy wrote:Swearing is just fucking fine on this goddamn fucking forum.
Aguaria Major wrote:The Black Hawks is essentially a regional equivalent of Heath Ledger's Joker: they just want to watch the world burn
Frisbeeteria wrote:Please stop.Please.
Souls wrote:Hi, I'm Souls. Have you embraced our lord and savior , Piling yet?
Souls wrote:Note to self: Watch out for Rai in my bedroom
Altinsane wrote:Me, about every suspiciously helpful newb I meet: "It's probably Rai."
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Postby Sygian II » Wed Mar 01, 2017 10:49 am

This whole "two condemnation" thing is already getting old.. let's try three?
Benevolent Thomas wrote:The Black Hawks continue to be the largest and most successful invader organization in NationStates


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Postby Swindenland » Wed Mar 01, 2017 11:01 am

Sygian II wrote:This whole "two condemnation" thing is already getting old.. let's try three?


I agree with my colleague here, this condemning The Black Hawks is getting old and is practically not having any effect.

The Black Hawks have my respect for their efficiency, but however the damage they do is enormous and is ruining the game, well they can't attack my region ;) , but many others are at risk of being attacked by mindless geeks, who have nothing else to do than to steal attention whereever they can.

How about we ask the game administator (Max Berry? Probably not, or?) to shut the Black Hawks down permanently. Their region and associates would simply be deleted and a few nations banned from playing.

Problem solved.
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Postby Bhang Bhang Duc » Wed Mar 01, 2017 11:09 am

Swindenland wrote:
Sygian II wrote:This whole "two condemnation" thing is already getting old.. let's try three?


I agree with my colleague here, this condemning The Black Hawks is getting old and is practically not having any effect.

The Black Hawks have my respect for their efficiency, but however the damage they do is enormous and is ruining the game, well they can't attack my region ;) , but many others are at risk of being attacked by mindless geeks, who have nothing else to do than to steal attention whereever they can.

How about we ask the game administator (Max Berry? Probably not, or?) to shut the Black Hawks down permanently. Their region and associates would simply be deleted and a few nations banned from playing.

Problem solved.

Bad luck sunshine, ain't going to happen.
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Pierconium wrote:I see Funk as an opportunistic manipulator that utilises the means available to him to reach his goals. In other words, a nation after my own heart.

RiderSyl wrote:If an enchantress made it so one raid could bring about world peace, Unibot would ask raiders to just sign a petition instead.

Sedgistan wrote:The SC has just has a spate of really shitty ones recently from Northumbria, his Watermelon fanboy…..

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Postby Swindenland » Wed Mar 01, 2017 11:22 am

Bhang Bhang Duc wrote:
Swindenland wrote:
I agree with my colleague here, this condemning The Black Hawks is getting old and is practically not having any effect.

The Black Hawks have my respect for their efficiency, but however the damage they do is enormous and is ruining the game, well they can't attack my region ;) , but many others are at risk of being attacked by mindless geeks, who have nothing else to do than to steal attention whereever they can.

How about we ask the game administator (Max Berry? Probably not, or?) to shut the Black Hawks down permanently. Their region and associates would simply be deleted and a few nations banned from playing.

Problem solved.

Bad luck sunshine, ain't going to happen.


Yes I know, it was just an concept. But it's up to us to do it and not just whine about it.

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Postby Bhang Bhang Duc » Wed Mar 01, 2017 11:45 am

Swindenland wrote:
Bhang Bhang Duc wrote:Bad luck sunshine, ain't going to happen.


Yes I know, it was just an concept. But it's up to us to do it and not just whine about it.

You misunderstand. Max has stated many times that he's happy with letting R/D operate within the game. You're not going to change that.
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Pierconium wrote:I see Funk as an opportunistic manipulator that utilises the means available to him to reach his goals. In other words, a nation after my own heart.

RiderSyl wrote:If an enchantress made it so one raid could bring about world peace, Unibot would ask raiders to just sign a petition instead.

Sedgistan wrote:The SC has just has a spate of really shitty ones recently from Northumbria, his Watermelon fanboy…..

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Postby Drasnia » Wed Mar 01, 2017 12:08 pm

Sygian II wrote:This whole "two condemnation" thing is already getting old.. let's try three?

How about a commend? I mean, you ought to get recognized for RaiderCon and RaiderVision. ;)
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Postby Kitzerland » Wed Mar 01, 2017 12:13 pm

Drasnia wrote:
Sygian II wrote:This whole "two condemnation" thing is already getting old.. let's try three?

How about a commend? I mean, you ought to get recognized for RaiderCon and RaiderVision. ;)

That and two other commends will be a full House!
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Postby Lands of Anarchy » Wed Mar 01, 2017 3:24 pm

Kitzerland wrote:
Drasnia wrote:How about a commend? I mean, you ought to get recognized for RaiderCon and RaiderVision. ;)

That and two other commends will be a full House!


Well, lets get on it then! But do we give 3 commendations and 2 condemnations, or 3 condemnations and 2 commendations?

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