Allanea wrote:Actually I find that both libertarianism and base Marxism have the absolute same problem. They rely on people being good by nature. And that is absolutely positively 1000% undeniably wrong. People are monsters, plain and simple. Being good is no more natural to us than presenting a paw to shake is to a dog. It's trained behavior.
Only if you have some highly unreasonable definition of 'goodness'.
Adam Smith, 1776: "It is not from the benevolence of the butcher, the brewer, or the baker that we expect our dinner, but from their regard to their own interest."
Purpelia, 2017: "They rely on people being good by nature. And that is absolutely positively 1000% undeniably wrong."