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by Internationalist Bastard » Tue Feb 21, 2017 7:16 pm
by Ethel mermania » Tue Feb 21, 2017 7:23 pm
UCE Watchdog of the Puppets wrote:How big is this church? How many people attend it? It seems rather frivolous for them to ask for such a privilege.
by Ilha das Tempestades » Tue Feb 21, 2017 7:32 pm
by UCE Watchdog of the Puppets » Tue Feb 21, 2017 7:55 pm
by Infected Mushroom » Tue Feb 21, 2017 9:32 pm
by The Two Jerseys » Tue Feb 21, 2017 10:38 pm
Infected Mushroom wrote:No. This would be treason. Any person who claims to form his own Police Force is saying I Am The Law and is betraying the flag and sigil of his father and their fathers before him. To do so is tantamount to treason and the same laws that bind individuals must also bind the Church.
Accordingly, this cannot proceed. Lest the nation fall apart. Only the state may run the police, anyone else who claims to create such a body, must be stopped.
by USS Monitor » Tue Feb 21, 2017 11:20 pm
by Hurdergaryp » Wed Feb 22, 2017 9:38 am
The Two Jerseys wrote:Infected Mushroom wrote:No. This would be treason. Any person who claims to form his own Police Force is saying I Am The Law and is betraying the flag and sigil of his father and their fathers before him. To do so is tantamount to treason and the same laws that bind individuals must also bind the Church.
Accordingly, this cannot proceed. Lest the nation fall apart. Only the state may run the police, anyone else who claims to create such a body, must be stopped.
Funny, railroads have had their own private police forces for almost 150 years and the country hasn't collapsed yet...
by Ethel mermania » Wed Feb 22, 2017 10:01 am
Hurdergaryp wrote:The Two Jerseys wrote:Funny, railroads have had their own private police forces for almost 150 years and the country hasn't collapsed yet...
Railway police has an authority somewhere inbetween regular police departments and security. Also their jurisdiction tends to be very strict and limited to those areas which are owned or exploited by the railroad company. Comparing churches with railroad companies is pretty much the same as comparing donuts with broccoli.
by Crockerland » Wed Feb 22, 2017 10:04 am
Hurdergaryp wrote:The Two Jerseys wrote:Funny, railroads have had their own private police forces for almost 150 years and the country hasn't collapsed yet...
Railway police has an authority somewhere inbetween regular police departments and security. Also their jurisdiction tends to be very strict and limited to those areas which are owned or exploited by the railroad company.
Hurdergaryp wrote:Comparing churches with railroad companies is pretty much the same as comparing donuts with broccoli.
by Cymrea » Wed Feb 22, 2017 10:16 am
Crockerland wrote:Hurdergaryp wrote:Railway police has an authority somewhere inbetween regular police departments and security. Also their jurisdiction tends to be very strict and limited to those areas which are owned or exploited by the railroad company.
So... Exactly like the Church police?Hurdergaryp wrote:Comparing churches with railroad companies is pretty much the same as comparing donuts with broccoli.
You have yet to show that is the case.
by Hurdergaryp » Wed Feb 22, 2017 10:24 am
Ethel mermania wrote:Hurdergaryp wrote:Railway police has an authority somewhere inbetween regular police departments and security. Also their jurisdiction tends to be very strict and limited to those areas which are owned or exploited by the railroad company. Comparing churches with railroad companies is pretty much the same as comparing donuts with broccoli.
Donuts win.
BUT some public and christian colleges do have their own police forces. The damm Jesuits at notre dame, for example have a police department.
The advantage of a police force is they have to meet state regulations for a police force, a simple security dept does not.
by Crockerland » Wed Feb 22, 2017 10:25 am
Cymrea wrote:
IF the church in question adheres to the state's hiring, training, operating, and reporting standards for a law enforcement agency, and IF the police force enforces public law (as opposed to whatever code the church might devise), then I suppose that would be fine.
by Salus Maior » Wed Feb 22, 2017 10:25 am
USS Monitor wrote:There's no reason to give a church that kind of authority. If they want to have some security personnel on their property, that's fine, but they shouldn't be conducting investigations or making decisions about who gets locked up.
by Cymrea » Wed Feb 22, 2017 10:32 am
Crockerland wrote:Cymrea wrote:IF the church in question adheres to the state's hiring, training, operating, and reporting standards for a law enforcement agency, and IF the police force enforces public law (as opposed to whatever code the church might devise), then I suppose that would be fine.
I have a hard time believing that they would be allowed to create a police force without meeting those conditions.
by The Imperial Papal States » Wed Feb 22, 2017 10:35 am
by Salus Maior » Wed Feb 22, 2017 10:38 am
The Imperial Papal States wrote:Well, the church has already organized a force for the protection of Clergy/Relics/other important locations...
Don't know what else the church needs
by The Imperial Papal States » Wed Feb 22, 2017 10:40 am
by Gauthier » Wed Feb 22, 2017 10:49 am
Briarwood Presbyterian Church
by Ethel mermania » Wed Feb 22, 2017 10:52 am
Hurdergaryp wrote:Ethel mermania wrote:Donuts win.
BUT some public and christian colleges do have their own police forces. The damm Jesuits at notre dame, for example have a police department.
The advantage of a police force is they have to meet state regulations for a police force, a simple security dept does not.
You'd think that history would have shown that Jesuits should not be trusted with any kind of executive power. The Holy Inquisition, anyone? Now there's a textbook example of religious police!
by Ifreann » Wed Feb 22, 2017 10:55 am
Ethel mermania wrote:Hurdergaryp wrote:Railway police has an authority somewhere inbetween regular police departments and security. Also their jurisdiction tends to be very strict and limited to those areas which are owned or exploited by the railroad company. Comparing churches with railroad companies is pretty much the same as comparing donuts with broccoli.
Donuts win.
BUT some public and christian colleges do have their own police forces. The damm Jesuits at notre dame, for example have a police department.
The advantage of a police force is they have to meet state regulations for a police force, a simple security dept does not.
by Flarbinia » Wed Feb 22, 2017 10:55 am
Xelsis wrote:It is just the equivalent of a college campus's "police force", calm down. They explicitly say that the force is only for on the church campus, nowhere else.It would not involve a jail or other facilities - basically an officer and an official car, he said. "I couldn't imagine it would be something more than that," Johnston said. "If there is an arrest on campus, the local jurisdiction would be called and they would come pick the person up."
Nothing more than security.
by Neanderthaland » Wed Feb 22, 2017 10:57 am
by The United Remnants of America » Wed Feb 22, 2017 10:59 am
by Aelex » Wed Feb 22, 2017 11:16 am
The United Remnants of America wrote:I want every Catholic church to have a police force, please.
Let's bring some order back to this world, with Catholic Law!
Nobody will suspect it.
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