by Neuwland » Wed Feb 15, 2017 3:28 pm
by Paddy O Fernature » Wed Feb 15, 2017 3:29 pm
by Internationalist Bastard » Wed Feb 15, 2017 3:30 pm
by The Great Devourer of All » Wed Feb 15, 2017 3:33 pm
Yymea wrote:We would definitely be scared of what is probably the most scary nation on NS :p
Multiversal Venn-Copard wrote:Actually fairly threatening by our standards. And this time we really mean "threatening". As in, "we'll actually need to escalate significantly to match their fleets."
Valkalan wrote:10/10 Profoundly evil. Some nations conqueror others for wealth and prestige, but the Devourer consumes civilization like a cancer consuming an unfortunate host.
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by Redsection » Wed Feb 15, 2017 3:34 pm
by Populi-Terrae » Wed Feb 15, 2017 3:36 pm
Neuwland wrote:http://www.cnn.com/2017/02/15/politics/russian-spy-plane-off-connecticut-coast/
Earlier this morning a Russian spy ship was spotted 30 miles off the coast of Connecticut the ship had intelligence equipment and missile carrying capabilities.
My thoughts on this are the following, Russia is walking all over us and undermining us as are their allies Assad, North Korea, Iran and the rest. I think we should fire a missile into the Baltic to 'test' Putin and we should send 2 spy ships to Vladivostok. And when we get caught doing it we should say "We're just visiting South Korea". This is what Russia would do, Trump hasn't done anything so far the biggest thing I've heard was from the head of the Navy saying 'We respect Russia's rights in international waters to explore we do the same thing'. Where is the condemnations where was the coast guard? In 2014 when our ships went into the Black sea to help Ukraine Russia sent fighter planes to fly over our ships, when Russia invaded Turkish air space Turkey shot them down, we need to be stronger against Russia.
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by Internationalist Bastard » Wed Feb 15, 2017 3:37 pm
Redsection wrote:People need to stop with the Russian fear mongering , it's a common thing to happen and the Russian submarine is in open water as to say . The Cold War is over and ended in the 90's , our fear and hate for the Russians stopped when that happened and it needs to stay that way.
by Neuwland » Wed Feb 15, 2017 3:38 pm
Redsection wrote:People need to stop with the Russian fear mongering , it's a common thing to happen and the Russian submarine is in open water as to say . The Cold War is over and ended in the 90's , our fear and hate for the Russians stopped when that happened and it needs to stay that way.
by Neuwland » Wed Feb 15, 2017 3:39 pm
Populi-Terrae wrote:Neuwland wrote:http://www.cnn.com/2017/02/15/politics/russian-spy-plane-off-connecticut-coast/
Earlier this morning a Russian spy ship was spotted 30 miles off the coast of Connecticut the ship had intelligence equipment and missile carrying capabilities.
My thoughts on this are the following, Russia is walking all over us and undermining us as are their allies Assad, North Korea, Iran and the rest. I think we should fire a missile into the Baltic to 'test' Putin and we should send 2 spy ships to Vladivostok. And when we get caught doing it we should say "We're just visiting South Korea". This is what Russia would do, Trump hasn't done anything so far the biggest thing I've heard was from the head of the Navy saying 'We respect Russia's rights in international waters to explore we do the same thing'. Where is the condemnations where was the coast guard? In 2014 when our ships went into the Black sea to help Ukraine Russia sent fighter planes to fly over our ships, when Russia invaded Turkish air space Turkey shot them down, we need to be stronger against Russia.
It is a obvious aggressive gesture, but I do not think the US should retaliate aggressively. Russia needs to be forced to withdraw from the international community if it cannot cooperate with other countries and live in peace.
by The Great Devourer of All » Wed Feb 15, 2017 3:39 pm
Redsection wrote:People need to stop with the Russian fear mongering , it's a common thing to happen and the Russian submarine is in open water as to say . The Cold War is over and ended in the 90's , our fear and hate for the Russians stopped when that happened and it needs to stay that way.
Yymea wrote:We would definitely be scared of what is probably the most scary nation on NS :p
Multiversal Venn-Copard wrote:Actually fairly threatening by our standards. And this time we really mean "threatening". As in, "we'll actually need to escalate significantly to match their fleets."
Valkalan wrote:10/10 Profoundly evil. Some nations conqueror others for wealth and prestige, but the Devourer consumes civilization like a cancer consuming an unfortunate host.
The Speaker wrote:Intemperate in the sea from the roof, and leg All night, and he knows lots of reads from the unseen good old man of the mountain-DESTRUCTION
by Internationalist Bastard » Wed Feb 15, 2017 3:39 pm
Neuwland wrote:Redsection wrote:People need to stop with the Russian fear mongering , it's a common thing to happen and the Russian submarine is in open water as to say . The Cold War is over and ended in the 90's , our fear and hate for the Russians stopped when that happened and it needs to stay that way.
People need to stop apologizing for Russia, the cold war is not over Russia is the same just a different flag.
by USS Monitor » Wed Feb 15, 2017 3:41 pm
Neuwland wrote:Redsection wrote:People need to stop with the Russian fear mongering , it's a common thing to happen and the Russian submarine is in open water as to say . The Cold War is over and ended in the 90's , our fear and hate for the Russians stopped when that happened and it needs to stay that way.
People need to stop apologizing for Russia, the cold war is not over Russia is the same just a different flag.
by Paddy O Fernature » Wed Feb 15, 2017 3:41 pm
Neuwland wrote:Redsection wrote:People need to stop with the Russian fear mongering , it's a common thing to happen and the Russian submarine is in open water as to say . The Cold War is over and ended in the 90's , our fear and hate for the Russians stopped when that happened and it needs to stay that way.
People need to stop apologizing for Russia, the cold war is not over Russia is the same just a different flag.
by The Great Devourer of All » Wed Feb 15, 2017 3:42 pm
Neuwland wrote:Redsection wrote:People need to stop with the Russian fear mongering , it's a common thing to happen and the Russian submarine is in open water as to say . The Cold War is over and ended in the 90's , our fear and hate for the Russians stopped when that happened and it needs to stay that way.
People need to stop apologizing for Russia, the cold war is not over Russia is the same just a different flag.
Yymea wrote:We would definitely be scared of what is probably the most scary nation on NS :p
Multiversal Venn-Copard wrote:Actually fairly threatening by our standards. And this time we really mean "threatening". As in, "we'll actually need to escalate significantly to match their fleets."
Valkalan wrote:10/10 Profoundly evil. Some nations conqueror others for wealth and prestige, but the Devourer consumes civilization like a cancer consuming an unfortunate host.
The Speaker wrote:Intemperate in the sea from the roof, and leg All night, and he knows lots of reads from the unseen good old man of the mountain-DESTRUCTION
by Populi-Terrae » Wed Feb 15, 2017 3:42 pm
Neuwland wrote:Populi-Terrae wrote:
It is a obvious aggressive gesture, but I do not think the US should retaliate aggressively. Russia needs to be forced to withdraw from the international community if it cannot cooperate with other countries and live in peace.
Yes we should we should retaliate brutally, they violated a treaty too.
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by Northwest Slobovia » Wed Feb 15, 2017 3:42 pm
Neuwland wrote:[S]o far the biggest thing I've heard was from the head of the Navy saying 'We respect Russia's rights in international waters to explore we do the same thing'.
by Orostan » Wed Feb 15, 2017 3:44 pm
Neuwland wrote:http://www.cnn.com/2017/02/15/politics/russian-spy-plane-off-connecticut-coast/
Earlier this morning a Russian spy ship was spotted 30 miles off the coast of Connecticut the ship had intelligence equipment and missile carrying capabilities.
My thoughts on this are the following, Russia is walking all over us and undermining us as are their allies Assad, North Korea, Iran and the rest. I think we should fire a missile into the Baltic to 'test' Putin and we should send 2 spy ships to Vladivostok. And when we get caught doing it we should say "We're just visiting South Korea". This is what Russia would do, Trump hasn't done anything so far the biggest thing I've heard was from the head of the Navy saying 'We respect Russia's rights in international waters to explore we do the same thing'. Where is the condemnations where was the coast guard? In 2014 when our ships went into the Black sea to help Ukraine Russia sent fighter planes to fly over our ships, when Russia invaded Turkish air space Turkey shot them down, we need to be stronger against Russia.
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by Neuwland » Wed Feb 15, 2017 3:44 pm
Northwest Slobovia wrote:Neuwland wrote:[S]o far the biggest thing I've heard was from the head of the Navy saying 'We respect Russia's rights in international waters to explore we do the same thing'.
As well they should, because we have ships (and spy planes) off their coasts too. While it's unusual for Russia to deploy spy ships near us since the end of the Cold War, it's perfectly legal for them to do so. If we want to send them a message, there are better ways for us to do so than hassling a ship operating legally.
by Gaozu » Wed Feb 15, 2017 3:45 pm
Neuwland wrote:Northwest Slobovia wrote:As well they should, because we have ships (and spy planes) off their coasts too. While it's unusual for Russia to deploy spy ships near us since the end of the Cold War, it's perfectly legal for them to do so. If we want to send them a message, there are better ways for us to do so than hassling a ship operating legally.
The difference is we're not Russia, yes there is a double standard I'm willing to admit that. We shouldn't apologize for the enemy saying we do it too.
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