Schiltzberg wrote:Has it been six weeks yet?
I'd say we should open sign-ups halfway through qualifying so we can start when the world cup is in its final stages.
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by Frenline Delpha » Thu Feb 02, 2017 7:23 pm
Schiltzberg wrote:Has it been six weeks yet?
by Free Republics » Thu Feb 02, 2017 7:55 pm
by Frenline Delpha » Thu Feb 02, 2017 9:14 pm
by The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Thu Feb 02, 2017 9:51 pm
by Schiltzberg » Fri Feb 03, 2017 5:07 am
by Gregoryisgodistan » Fri Feb 03, 2017 1:15 pm
by Schiltzberg » Fri Feb 03, 2017 3:21 pm
Gregoryisgodistan wrote:Hold on... are we starting signups the first day of the tournament, or the tournament itself starts then? The latter would obviously be at the host's discretion when exactly to start, but to achieve that we'd need to open signups about a month before for time for bids, signups, Vote, and everything thread. If signups will be open during the tournament, I'd start them a few days before just to build anticipation.
Though it might be better to start signups a week before the RL tournament starts or so, to hopefully preempt some n00b from saying "Haha I had this totally original idea to have a World Baseball Classic since the real one starts in a few days, pls join guys!!!!!"
by Maklohi Vai » Fri Feb 03, 2017 4:44 pm
Gregoryisgodistan wrote:Hold on... are we starting signups the first day of the tournament, or the tournament itself starts then? The latter would obviously be at the host's discretion when exactly to start, but to achieve that we'd need to open signups about a month before for time for bids, signups, Vote, and everything thread. If signups will be open during the tournament, I'd start them a few days before just to build anticipation.
Though it might be better to start signups a week before the RL tournament starts or so, to hopefully preempt some n00b from saying "Haha I had this totally original idea to have a World Baseball Classic since the real one starts in a few days, pls join guys!!!!!"
by Schiltzberg » Fri Feb 03, 2017 4:48 pm
Maklohi Vai wrote:Gregoryisgodistan wrote:Hold on... are we starting signups the first day of the tournament, or the tournament itself starts then? The latter would obviously be at the host's discretion when exactly to start, but to achieve that we'd need to open signups about a month before for time for bids, signups, Vote, and everything thread. If signups will be open during the tournament, I'd start them a few days before just to build anticipation.
Though it might be better to start signups a week before the RL tournament starts or so, to hopefully preempt some n00b from saying "Haha I had this totally original idea to have a World Baseball Classic since the real one starts in a few days, pls join guys!!!!!"
I agree with this: start them up a little bit before.
by Newmanistan » Fri Feb 03, 2017 5:11 pm
Gregoryisgodistan wrote: hopefully preempt some n00b from saying "Haha I had this totally original idea to have a World Baseball Classic since the real one starts in a few days, pls join guys!!!!!"
by Frenline Delpha » Thu Feb 09, 2017 7:09 am
by Newmanistan » Thu Feb 09, 2017 8:02 am
Frenline Delpha wrote:http://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/18648532/mlb-test-rule-change-minor-leagues-focusing-extra-innings
Interesting. So, how would everyone feel if I implemented this into my bid? I think it could lead to some interesting RPs.
by Gregoryisgodistan » Thu Feb 09, 2017 8:05 am
Frenline Delpha wrote:http://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/18648532/mlb-test-rule-change-minor-leagues-focusing-extra-innings
Interesting. So, how would everyone feel if I implemented this into my bid? I think it could lead to some interesting RPs.
by Ethane » Thu Feb 09, 2017 3:22 pm
Frenline Delpha wrote:http://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/18648532/mlb-test-rule-change-minor-leagues-focusing-extra-innings
Interesting. So, how would everyone feel if I implemented this into my bid? I think it could lead to some interesting RPs.
by Saintland » Thu Feb 09, 2017 8:11 pm
Gregoryisgodistan wrote:Frenline Delpha wrote:http://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/18648532/mlb-test-rule-change-minor-leagues-focusing-extra-innings
Interesting. So, how would everyone feel if I implemented this into my bid? I think it could lead to some interesting RPs.
I wouldn't mind, consdering a similar rule is used in the RL WBC, provided you adjusted the scorinator to reflect it. But I don't even know if it's technically feasible to have different scoring probabilities in extra innings versus regulation. If you're using the standard scorinator, that wouldn't make sense with the rule change.
OOC-ly, I can't stand the rule. But I also think penalty kicks are a terrible way to decide a soccer match, and you don't see me calling for unlimited overtimes in the NSWC. That's the rule, whether I like it or not.
by Schiltzberg » Fri Feb 10, 2017 5:38 am
Frenline Delpha wrote:http://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/18648532/mlb-test-rule-change-minor-leagues-focusing-extra-innings
Interesting. So, how would everyone feel if I implemented this into my bid? I think it could lead to some interesting RPs.
by Nova Anglicana » Fri Feb 10, 2017 10:42 am
Frenline Delpha wrote:http://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/18648532/mlb-test-rule-change-minor-leagues-focusing-extra-innings
Interesting. So, how would everyone feel if I implemented this into my bid? I think it could lead to some interesting RPs.
by Gregoryisgodistan » Fri Feb 10, 2017 11:21 am
Nova Anglicana wrote:Frenline Delpha wrote:http://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/18648532/mlb-test-rule-change-minor-leagues-focusing-extra-innings
Interesting. So, how would everyone feel if I implemented this into my bid? I think it could lead to some interesting RPs.
I am firmly against this both OOCly and ICly. "Texas tiebreaker" or whatever is gimmicky and I think the last time I saw it in an actual baseball game was Little League. It doesn't actually cut down on the length of games, because it makes it easier to score, so the game can continue on and on in extra innings. I wouldn't like to see this in international play or in MLB, because I think it's a transparent play for attention that compromises the way the game is played.
Now, as to whether or not we should use this in NS, I would oppose it, but if it were the judgment of the Council that we should incorporate this into future bids, then I would accept that outcome. I also agree with others that have expressed the opinion that should we implement it, a new scorinator would be required.
Sorry if I come off a little strong here. I hold no personal animus against anyone who supports this or wants to use it in their bid. It's a bit like the DH. I really don't like it, but am willing to accept it if a governing body decides so.
EDIT: It also wouldn't affect my vote unless it was literally the only difference. Other formatting, the host(s), etc. would play far more into my decision than using this rule.
by Schiltzberg » Mon Feb 13, 2017 3:04 pm
by Schiltzberg » Mon Feb 13, 2017 3:28 pm
by Maklohi Vai » Mon Feb 13, 2017 5:57 pm
Schiltzberg wrote:The RL WBC is so terrible in so many ways. Here is what I can think of just off the top of my head.
1. One-game series. This is baseball! Games shouldn't be decided by one-game series. Even the championship is decided by one game! Infidels!
2. Designated hitter rule is imposed. What is this nonsense? I guess maybe they want to protect the pitchers so that they don't get injured in games that don't really mean anything, but then again, that shows just how insignificant the tournament is.
3. There are only sixteen teams. There really aren't enough countries into baseball to make the WBC anywhere near as successful as the World Cup for example.
4. Teams are not made up of people actually from the country that they represent. As stated with the Israel thing, this just shows how much of a joke the tournament is. About half of the teams have a U.S. born majority on their active roster.
5. Twenty-eight man roster. What the fuck?
6. The United States doesn't win. I'm sorry, but it has to be pointed out. There have been three WBCs and the United States' best place was fourth? What? I understand that they won't win every time, but when it comes to baseball, that is an American sport. It makes sense that Japan and DR would do well also, but for the US to just bomb every time makes no sense.
7. It is DURING THE MLB SEASON. What the hell? You have the tournament for all of the best baseball players when the most highly esteemed baseball league in the world is in its Spring Training? That is just bad planning.
8. Nobody watches. It is a big joke.
I will say that it did inspire the NS WBC, and in the NS world, the WBC is awesome, so that is good.
by Schiltzberg » Mon Feb 13, 2017 6:20 pm
Maklohi Vai wrote:Schiltzberg wrote:The RL WBC is so terrible in so many ways. Here is what I can think of just off the top of my head.
1. One-game series. This is baseball! Games shouldn't be decided by one-game series. Even the championship is decided by one game! Infidels!
2. Designated hitter rule is imposed. What is this nonsense? I guess maybe they want to protect the pitchers so that they don't get injured in games that don't really mean anything, but then again, that shows just how insignificant the tournament is.
3. There are only sixteen teams. There really aren't enough countries into baseball to make the WBC anywhere near as successful as the World Cup for example.
4. Teams are not made up of people actually from the country that they represent. As stated with the Israel thing, this just shows how much of a joke the tournament is. About half of the teams have a U.S. born majority on their active roster.
5. Twenty-eight man roster. What the fuck?
6. The United States doesn't win. I'm sorry, but it has to be pointed out. There have been three WBCs and the United States' best place was fourth? What? I understand that they won't win every time, but when it comes to baseball, that is an American sport. It makes sense that Japan and DR would do well also, but for the US to just bomb every time makes no sense.
7. It is DURING THE MLB SEASON. What the hell? You have the tournament for all of the best baseball players when the most highly esteemed baseball league in the world is in its Spring Training? That is just bad planning.
8. Nobody watches. It is a big joke.
I will say that it did inspire the NS WBC, and in the NS world, the WBC is awesome, so that is good.
I read some of these criticisms as being very American-centric. This isn't an indictment of you in any way, but I do want to make sure the RL WBC isn't unfairly maligned.
2: I hate the DH as much as any self-respecting NL fan, but it's the norm elsewhere.
3: The point of the WBC is to crown a champion, sure, but really it's also meant to be a vehicle for the sport to enter new grounds. The target of competition isn't the US, or the DR, or Japan, per se, but it's countries like Australia, which has a burgeoning Little League program but little professional talent, who are the real targets. Having the tournament be 16 teams is vital for getting all of those countries in.
4. Israel is kind of a special exception, because of their laws regarding Israeli status for the Jewish diaspora. Also, consider this in the context of other international sports: rules are pretty damn lax for declaring oneself to be a representative of another country's sports teams. If you take more general issue with that, go ahead, but it's unfair to applies that solely to the WBC.
6. It's a damned good thing that the USA doesn't win every time. The US doesn't make a point of actually getting its best players out there, only some of them choose to join. This is a much bigger deal in other countries, and I also refer back to point 3: part of the mission of this tournament is to expand the game.
7. Eh, spring training isn't the season. There's a big difference, I imagine. Also, this affects a lot of people, absolutely, but for the preponderance teams without many players in the MLB, it's no inconvenience.
8. I think the real concern with viewership is in the emerging markets, not the established markets, unless the WBC is grasping for money and needs even more American or Japanese TV revenue (which I don't think it does).
by Drawkland » Mon Feb 13, 2017 6:28 pm
Schiltzberg wrote:Maybe that sounds very American-centric, but that is because it is, because baseball is the most American-centric sport in the world.
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by Schiltzberg » Mon Feb 13, 2017 7:37 pm
by Maklohi Vai » Mon Feb 13, 2017 7:44 pm
Schiltzberg wrote:Maklohi Vai wrote:I read some of these criticisms as being very American-centric. This isn't an indictment of you in any way, but I do want to make sure the RL WBC isn't unfairly maligned.
2: I hate the DH as much as any self-respecting NL fan, but it's the norm elsewhere.
3: The point of the WBC is to crown a champion, sure, but really it's also meant to be a vehicle for the sport to enter new grounds. The target of competition isn't the US, or the DR, or Japan, per se, but it's countries like Australia, which has a burgeoning Little League program but little professional talent, who are the real targets. Having the tournament be 16 teams is vital for getting all of those countries in.
4. Israel is kind of a special exception, because of their laws regarding Israeli status for the Jewish diaspora. Also, consider this in the context of other international sports: rules are pretty damn lax for declaring oneself to be a representative of another country's sports teams. If you take more general issue with that, go ahead, but it's unfair to applies that solely to the WBC.
6. It's a damned good thing that the USA doesn't win every time. The US doesn't make a point of actually getting its best players out there, only some of them choose to join. This is a much bigger deal in other countries, and I also refer back to point 3: part of the mission of this tournament is to expand the game.
7. Eh, spring training isn't the season. There's a big difference, I imagine. Also, this affects a lot of people, absolutely, but for the preponderance teams without many players in the MLB, it's no inconvenience.
8. I think the real concern with viewership is in the emerging markets, not the established markets, unless the WBC is grasping for money and needs even more American or Japanese TV revenue (which I don't think it does).
I do not think that it accurately shows how baseball is meant to be played is what I am trying to say. Maybe that sounds very American-centric, but that is because it is, because baseball is the most American-centric sport in the world.
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