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Favourite Right-Wing Revolution/Uprising/Coup?

War In The Vendée, 1793 (France)
8
7%
Southern Secession, 1860 (USA)
18
15%
Boxer Rebellion, 1899 (China)
6
5%
March On Rome, 1922 (Italy)
15
12%
National Revolution, 1926 (Portugal)
1
1%
Spanish Nationalist Coup, 1936 (Spain)
16
13%
May 16 Coup, 1961 (S. Korea)
5
4%
Chilean Coup, 1973 (Chile)
14
11%
Autumn Of Nations, 1989 (International)
29
24%
Other (Please State)
11
9%
 
Total votes : 123

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Postby Ormata » Sat Feb 11, 2017 5:42 pm

Benuty wrote:So did someone just mention Charles de Gaulle?


Da. Question was whether or not Gaullism is a Right-Wing philosophy, in some people's eyes.

As a branch-off from that question, if you disagree with certain aspects of Gaullism, what are they and why?

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Postby Aethal » Sat Feb 11, 2017 8:59 pm

USS Monitor wrote:Grenartia and Benuty: *** Warned for threadjacking ***

Next person that continues that discussion here instead of taking it to Moderation is likely to get a ban and have the thread closed down.



Oh my, so you can lock that thread in moderation as well?
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Postby FelrikTheDeleted » Sat Feb 11, 2017 9:06 pm

Aethal wrote:
USS Monitor wrote:Grenartia and Benuty: *** Warned for threadjacking ***

Next person that continues that discussion here instead of taking it to Moderation is likely to get a ban and have the thread closed down.



Oh my, so you can lock that thread in moderation as well?


Depending on the circumstances they could lock any thread. (To my knowledge)


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Postby Aethal » Sat Feb 11, 2017 9:14 pm

FelrikTheDeleted wrote:
Aethal wrote:

Oh my, so you can lock that thread in moderation as well?


Depending on the circumstances they could lock any thread. (To my knowledge)



Just don't disagree with the Leftist echo-chamber Felrik, they'll lock anything that makes people question their authority. Hell, I'm likely to get banned for disagreeing.
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Postby Mattopilos II » Sat Feb 11, 2017 9:16 pm

Aethal wrote:
FelrikTheDeleted wrote:
Depending on the circumstances they could lock any thread. (To my knowledge)



Just don't disagree with the Leftist echo-chamber Felrik, they'll lock anything that makes people question their authority. Hell, I'm likely to get banned for disagreeing.


> Leftist echo-chamber
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Wut. Dude, blame the mods, not the whole left. And again, can we stop with the fucking thread-jack please? Get on topic.
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Postby Aethal » Sat Feb 11, 2017 9:17 pm

Mattopilos II wrote:
Aethal wrote:

Just don't disagree with the Leftist echo-chamber Felrik, they'll lock anything that makes people question their authority. Hell, I'm likely to get banned for disagreeing.


> Leftist echo-chamber
> RWDT
Wut. Dude, blame the mods, not the whole left. And again, can we stop with the fucking thread-jack please? Get on topic.



Nap was fuckin' right about the Mods, and you know what? Long Live Grinstead, Happy Merchant Invictus!
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Postby Northern Davincia » Sat Feb 11, 2017 9:44 pm

So, what's everybody's opinion on competing currencies?
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Postby Great Minarchistan » Sat Feb 11, 2017 9:48 pm

Northern Davincia wrote:So, what's everybody's opinion on competing currencies?


Depends. If you are talking of international competition, it is bad anyway, since after all there's a State controlling the whole currency mechanism. But if you are talking of private currency competition, this one is effective.
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Postby Northern Davincia » Sat Feb 11, 2017 10:03 pm

Conscentia wrote:
Northern Davincia wrote:So, what's everybody's opinion on competing currencies?

What do you mean by "competing currencies"?

Imagine bitcoin versus some other cryptocurrency in a fight to become the dominant method of exchange.
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Postby Conscentia » Sat Feb 11, 2017 10:13 pm

Northern Davincia wrote:
Conscentia wrote:What do you mean by "competing currencies"?

Imagine bitcoin versus some other cryptocurrency in a fight to become the dominant method of exchange.

If they not legally required to be recognised as payment then you'd end up with the problem barter has - which is that what you have won't necessary be accepted as payment for what you need. If they are required to be recognised as payment, then they're functionally equivalent to a single currency with a bunch of weird denominations the manufacture of which is privatised. Instead of 1 pound for 100 pennies, it's 1 bitcoin for 14.24352 whatevers. Actually, it's worse. At least you can be sure that a week from now 100 pennies will be equivalent to a pound.
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Postby Herskerstad » Sat Feb 11, 2017 10:48 pm

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So here is a question.

As some of you may remember forever ago a war was waged by Clinton on Pepe, which is almost universally considered to be a poor move, but it seems typical from both the left and the right to at times wage war on song and dance so to speak. Has it ever had any great success? And if so, has meme magic finally become something that can influence elections that one extra meter for the mile?
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Postby Luminesa » Sat Feb 11, 2017 11:06 pm

Herskerstad wrote:http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/001/128/724/d9e.png

So here is a question.

As some of you may remember forever ago a war was waged by Clinton on Pepe, which is almost universally considered to be a poor move, but it seems typical from both the left and the right to at times wage war on song and dance so to speak. Has it ever had any great success? And if so, has meme magic finally become something that can influence elections that one extra meter for the mile?

Considering the power that the media has to control elections and peoples' outlooks about the candidates, memes are nevertheless an oddity in the spectrum of mass media. They do spread awareness about the candidates, however, and at least introduce them to others. So they can certainly have some effect, though to what degree I'm not sure.
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Postby Herskerstad » Sun Feb 12, 2017 5:13 am

Luminesa wrote:
Herskerstad wrote:http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/001/128/724/d9e.png

So here is a question.

As some of you may remember forever ago a war was waged by Clinton on Pepe, which is almost universally considered to be a poor move, but it seems typical from both the left and the right to at times wage war on song and dance so to speak. Has it ever had any great success? And if so, has meme magic finally become something that can influence elections that one extra meter for the mile?

Considering the power that the media has to control elections and peoples' outlooks about the candidates, memes are nevertheless an oddity in the spectrum of mass media. They do spread awareness about the candidates, however, and at least introduce them to others. So they can certainly have some effect, though to what degree I'm not sure.


I think there is also the lure of being invited to said song and dance that yeilds it more of an effect than spreading awareness. Trump posting the meme was pretty big, and completely blindsided the old fashioned Clinton machine who immediately tried to discredit it, and by it, him in proxy.
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Postby Lady Scylla » Sun Feb 12, 2017 5:23 am

Luminesa wrote:
Herskerstad wrote:http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/001/128/724/d9e.png

So here is a question.

As some of you may remember forever ago a war was waged by Clinton on Pepe, which is almost universally considered to be a poor move, but it seems typical from both the left and the right to at times wage war on song and dance so to speak. Has it ever had any great success? And if so, has meme magic finally become something that can influence elections that one extra meter for the mile?

Considering the power that the media has to control elections and peoples' outlooks about the candidates, memes are nevertheless an oddity in the spectrum of mass media. They do spread awareness about the candidates, however, and at least introduce them to others. So they can certainly have some effect, though to what degree I'm not sure.


If people are taking memes seriously when determining such decisions, that's just sheer stupidity.

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Postby Herskerstad » Sun Feb 12, 2017 5:36 am

Lady Scylla wrote:
Luminesa wrote:Considering the power that the media has to control elections and peoples' outlooks about the candidates, memes are nevertheless an oddity in the spectrum of mass media. They do spread awareness about the candidates, however, and at least introduce them to others. So they can certainly have some effect, though to what degree I'm not sure.


If people are taking memes seriously when determining such decisions, that's just sheer stupidity.


Do you imagine there is a shortage of such during election choices?
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Postby Lady Scylla » Sun Feb 12, 2017 5:37 am

Herskerstad wrote:
Lady Scylla wrote:
If people are taking memes seriously when determining such decisions, that's just sheer stupidity.


Do you imagine there is a shortage of such during election choices?


I generally hold the view that most of the public lacks common sense and critical thinking skills, so no. Sadly, I do not. :(

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Postby Herskerstad » Sun Feb 12, 2017 5:43 am

Lady Scylla wrote:
Herskerstad wrote:
Do you imagine there is a shortage of such during election choices?


I generally hold the view that most of the public lacks common sense and critical thinking skills, so no. Sadly, I do not. :(


Well, in that case.
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Postby Lady Scylla » Sun Feb 12, 2017 5:53 am

Herskerstad wrote:
Lady Scylla wrote:
I generally hold the view that most of the public lacks common sense and critical thinking skills, so no. Sadly, I do not. :(


Well, in that case.
Image


I hate you. :lol2:

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Postby Gondolaulus » Sun Feb 12, 2017 6:03 am

Herskerstad wrote:http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/001/128/724/d9e.png

So here is a question.

As some of you may remember forever ago a war was waged by Clinton on Pepe, which is almost universally considered to be a poor move, but it seems typical from both the left and the right to at times wage war on song and dance so to speak. Has it ever had any great success? And if so, has meme magic finally become something that can influence elections that one extra meter for the mile?

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Postby Herskerstad » Sun Feb 12, 2017 6:06 am

Lady Scylla wrote:
Herskerstad wrote:
Well, in that case.
Image


I hate you. :lol2:


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Postby Luminesa » Sun Feb 12, 2017 6:58 am

Lady Scylla wrote:
Luminesa wrote:Considering the power that the media has to control elections and peoples' outlooks about the candidates, memes are nevertheless an oddity in the spectrum of mass media. They do spread awareness about the candidates, however, and at least introduce them to others. So they can certainly have some effect, though to what degree I'm not sure.


If people are taking memes seriously when determining such decisions, that's just sheer stupidity.

Indeed. I'm not saying they'll influence the vote, but they're part of social media, and that's where their power, if they have any at all, would come from.
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Postby Conscentia » Sun Feb 12, 2017 7:07 am

Lady Scylla wrote:
Luminesa wrote:Considering the power that the media has to control elections and peoples' outlooks about the candidates, memes are nevertheless an oddity in the spectrum of mass media. They do spread awareness about the candidates, however, and at least introduce them to others. So they can certainly have some effect, though to what degree I'm not sure.

If people are taking memes seriously when determining such decisions, that's just sheer stupidity.

They don't have to take the memes seriously. I doubt anyone's seeing a meme and being like "LOL! I'm so voting for this guy!", however memes could influence people through habituation - people will find candidates to which they're exposed repeatedly less objectionable. Although that alone isn't likely to sway people and I doubt it's a significant factor.
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Postby Lady Scylla » Sun Feb 12, 2017 7:07 am

Luminesa wrote:
Lady Scylla wrote:
If people are taking memes seriously when determining such decisions, that's just sheer stupidity.

Indeed. I'm not saying they'll influence the vote, but they're part of social media, and that's where their power, if they have any at all, would come from.


Thus my love/hate relationship with social media. On the one hand, it has brought us closer, given us a platform to share ideas, and stay in touch. On the other hand, it has given us a platform to share ideas that can be just outright stupid. And there exist those who, seemingly, are incapable of thinking for themselves and behave like 'mockingbirds'. They receive information, and then they regurgitate it without any intention in discerning the meaning of what they're saying. So we end up with a bandwagon of blindly following mockingbirds without any original opinion or thought. I don't believe I've ever been more frustrated with people.

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