Warfare 2017-OOC-CLOSED/rebooted.

[The Solomani]

NS Nation Name: The Solomani Confederacy of Systems
RL Country Chosen: Federation of the Levant
Name of Leader: President Shimon Peres
Appearance of Leader: Like This
Biography of Leader: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shimon_Peres
History of Nation: Same until 2016. In 2016, near the end of the year, Israel and Palestine finally come to an agreement on the division of the Holy Land. Palestine will keep the West Bank and Gaza Strip, Israel will keep it's current territory(including the Golan Heights). The way both countries get what they want is by forming one country, or rather a union of two countries. The Federation of the States of Israel and Palestine is formed, with Jerusalem becoming a neutral zone between the two, owned by neither but still operating as the capital of both countries and the Federation. Growing ethnic divides in Lebanon are made worse when the country splits in four based on it's religious groups, becoming balkanized. The Federation holds a meeting of the four groups in Jerusalem, where all of them agree to join the Federation as separate states. This makes the Federation a great peacemaker in the eyes of many, and this status would lead to many Arab states thawing relations with Israel because of it's work in making peace with Palestine and solving, for the most part, the religious divide in Lebanon.
RP History or Example: I am Italia in this RP.

[Ariado]

Would a union of Saudi Arabia, Qatar, United Arab Emirates, Yemen, and Oman be acceptable?

[Krugeristan]

Should we try to get Assad on the phone?

Yes.

[Almamlakat Alttaqwa]

Would a union of Saudi Arabia, Qatar, United Arab Emirates, Yemen, and Oman be acceptable?

That would be extremely unlikely.

[Ariado]

Would a union of Saudi Arabia, Qatar, United Arab Emirates, Yemen, and Oman be acceptable?

That would be extremely unlikely.

Figured since 2 were extremely tiny, another is war torn, and Oman isn't particularly large or powerful, it would be fine

[Almamlakat Alttaqwa]

That would be extremely unlikely.

Figured since 2 were extremely tiny, another is war torn, and Oman isn't particularly large or powerful, it would be fine

It is war torn because it is in active conflict with one of the other nations that you want to combine it with. Qatar and UAE are both much more significant than their simple territory implies-the former is the wealthiest country on the planet. Qatar and SA have significant differences in their own branches of Wahhabi Islam, while the UAE has only fragments there, mostly Sunni. Yemen as mentioned is at war with SA, not much of an option there and Oman is running its own tribal sect of Islam, and has always been tense with Saudi Arabia, they are tied much more closely to Iran, SA's perpetual Gulf enemy.

Uniting all of them would be virtually impossible.

[Ariado]

Figured since 2 were extremely tiny, another is war torn, and Oman isn't particularly large or powerful, it would be fine

It is war torn because it is in active conflict with one of the other nations that you want to combine it with. Qatar and UAE are both much more significant than their simple territory implies-the former is the wealthiest country on the planet. Qatar and SA have significant differences in their own branches of Wahhabi Islam, while the UAE has only fragments there, mostly Sunni. Yemen as mentioned is at war with SA, not much of an option there and Oman is running its own tribal sect of Islam, and has always been tense with Saudi Arabia, they are tied much more closely to Iran, SA's perpetual Gulf enemy.

Uniting all of them would be virtually impossible.

I do agree that it isn't as if they are a perfect fit, but I could surely justify it through some slight altering of history. Qatar and UAE are rich but thats about it. Qatar and UAE are already close with Saudi Arabia, Oman and Yemen could be justified through a hostile takeover. I could obviously rp out how theres resistance from Ibadi and Shia groups within the two former nations. With these five, it would surely be a financial power, but militarily it would at best be a rival of Iran and Iraq due to the lackluster militaries of the five nations. Of course if the op disagrees I'd probably just go with Saudi Arabia.

[Almamlakat Alttaqwa]

It is war torn because it is in active conflict with one of the other nations that you want to combine it with. Qatar and UAE are both much more significant than their simple territory implies-the former is the wealthiest country on the planet. Qatar and SA have significant differences in their own branches of Wahhabi Islam, while the UAE has only fragments there, mostly Sunni. Yemen as mentioned is at war with SA, not much of an option there and Oman is running its own tribal sect of Islam, and has always been tense with Saudi Arabia, they are tied much more closely to Iran, SA's perpetual Gulf enemy.

Uniting all of them would be virtually impossible.

I do agree that it isn't as if they are a perfect fit, but I could surely justify it through some slight altering of history. Qatar and UAE are rich but thats about it. Qatar and UAE are already close with Saudi Arabia, Oman and Yemen could be justified through a hostile takeover. I could obviously rp out how theres resistance from Ibadi and Shia groups within the two former nations. With these five, it would surely be a financial power, but militarily it would at best be a rival of Iran and Iraq due to the lackluster militaries of the five nations. Of course if the op disagrees I'd probably just go with Saudi Arabia.

A merger with Saudi Arabia would certainly be an economic negative for Qatar and the UAE. A hostile takeover, I suppose, is a possibility to bring all five under the banner, and would essentially leave the nation in a position of constant COIN ops in the two countries, but that, at least, could work out.

[Ariado]

I do agree that it isn't as if they are a perfect fit, but I could surely justify it through some slight altering of history. Qatar and UAE are rich but thats about it. Qatar and UAE are already close with Saudi Arabia, Oman and Yemen could be justified through a hostile takeover. I could obviously rp out how theres resistance from Ibadi and Shia groups within the two former nations. With these five, it would surely be a financial power, but militarily it would at best be a rival of Iran and Iraq due to the lackluster militaries of the five nations. Of course if the op disagrees I'd probably just go with Saudi Arabia.

A merger with Saudi Arabia would certainly be an economic negative for Qatar and the UAE. A hostile takeover, I suppose, is a possibility to bring all five under the banner, and would essentially leave the nation in a position of constant COIN ops in the two countries, but that, at least, could work out.

I figured the incentive for Qatar and UAE is more defensive than economic. With a now Shia Iraq, Saudi Arabia, UAE, and Qatar are all surrounded by shia or secular powers that historically don't have the best relations with any of them.

[Almamlakat Alttaqwa]

A merger with Saudi Arabia would certainly be an economic negative for Qatar and the UAE. A hostile takeover, I suppose, is a possibility to bring all five under the banner, and would essentially leave the nation in a position of constant COIN ops in the two countries, but that, at least, could work out.

I figured the incentive for Qatar and UAE is more defensive than economic. With a now Shia Iraq, Saudi Arabia, UAE, and Qatar are all surrounded by shia or secular powers that historically don't have the best relations with any of them.

As long as Al Udeid is there, Qatar's not going to worry about any of that.

The UAE might, possibly, but haven't historically, and the Ba'athists were not on good terms with the UAE at all.

Even when Kuwait had Iraq sitting right there, basically announcing its intention to invade them, it never sought a merger with Saudi Arabia.

[Chewion]

NS Nation Name: The Solomani Confederacy of Systems
RL Country Chosen: Federation of the Levant
Name of Leader: President Shimon Peres
Appearance of Leader: Like This
Biography of Leader: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shimon_Peres
History of Nation: Same until 2016. In 2016, near the end of the year, Israel and Palestine finally come to an agreement on the division of the Holy Land. Palestine will keep the West Bank and Gaza Strip, Israel will keep it's current territory(including the Golan Heights). The way both countries get what they want is by forming one country, or rather a union of two countries. The Federation of the States of Israel and Palestine is formed, with Jerusalem becoming a neutral zone between the two, owned by neither but still operating as the capital of both countries and the Federation. Growing ethnic divides in Lebanon are made worse when the country splits in four based on it's religious groups, becoming balkanized. The Federation holds a meeting of the four groups in Jerusalem, where all of them agree to join the Federation as separate states. This makes the Federation a great peacemaker in the eyes of many, and this status would lead to many Arab states thawing relations with Israel because of it's work in making peace with Palestine and solving, for the most part, the religious divide in Lebanon.
RP History or Example: I am Italia in this RP.

I have to say no just because of the unlikely hood of this ever actually happening and working IRL at least for the man time. You can be Israel by itself if you want and then try to work towards this IC I guess although Israel is very very Pro-independence and Palestine is very Pro-independence so it would be extremely hard and unlikely that either would want this.

[Chewion]

I figured the incentive for Qatar and UAE is more defensive than economic. With a now Shia Iraq, Saudi Arabia, UAE, and Qatar are all surrounded by shia or secular powers that historically don't have the best relations with any of them.

As long as Al Udeid is there, Qatar's not going to worry about any of that.

The UAE might, possibly, but haven't historically, and the Ba'athists were not on good terms with the UAE at all.

I will let my co-op handle this debate but at least you can have Saudi, Yemen, and Oman I think.

[Almamlakat Alttaqwa]

As long as Al Udeid is there, Qatar's not going to worry about any of that.

The UAE might, possibly, but haven't historically, and the Ba'athists were not on good terms with the UAE at all.

I will let my co-op handle this debate but at least you can have Saudi, Yemen, and Oman I think.

Those are the ones he could get, but it would have to be by conquest, and he'd be dealing with some major insurgencies, like he said,

[Ariado]

As long as Al Udeid is there, Qatar's not going to worry about any of that.

The UAE might, possibly, but haven't historically, and the Ba'athists were not on good terms with the UAE at all.

I will let my co-op handle this debate but at least you can have Saudi, Yemen, and Oman I think.

If I can only have three, I think I would prefer having Saudi, UAE, and Qatar as it makes more sense from an alliance standpoint. Would that be acceptable?

[Chewion]

I will let my co-op handle this debate but at least you can have Saudi, Yemen, and Oman I think.

If I can only have three, I think I would prefer having Saudi, UAE, and Qatar as it makes more sense from an alliance standpoint. Would that be acceptable?

If there's no profound reason why not then yes.

[Erutenia]

This is one of these days.

When you want to RP but your body can't RP.

[NewLakotah]

How you guys doing for RPing with NPC nations? Specifically militarily and politically?

[Chewion]

How you guys doing for RPing with NPC nations? Specifically militarily and politically?

I am getting a guy to do that. He agreed he just is busy tonight.

[Tallahassee News Station]

Right, so I'll be running Tallahassee International News, and UN Sec-Gen as Co-OP.

I'll probably pick up a random country for the interim times but the focus is going to be on the more OP-y above stuff.

[Mikia]

NS Nation Name:Mikia
RL Country Chosen: Ethiopia, Somalia, South Sudan, Uganda, and Kenya
Name of Leader: Amen Benita
Appearance of Leader (Description allowed, picture preferred)
Biography of Leader Amen Benita was born in 1957 to a "wealthy" Ethiopian family. He would join anti-communist rebels in 1989, and rise to prominence due to his tactical abilities. After 1991 and the fall of the communists in Ethiopia he was made a general by Meles Zenawi. He became the commander of the East African coalition in the year 2005. Amen was the architect of both the Somali and Sudanese Offensives in 2007 and 2016 respectively. He was ousted from his position and joined a guerilla group that completed a coup. This fame allowed him to win the election of 2016 to become president of The republic of Africa.
History of Nation (2000-2017) (You may simply keep it as-is):

Jul 2000 the Somali civil war began to spill over into Ethiopia and Kenya, while their pirates became emboldened. May 2001 after major defeats by somali rebels and pirates alike Ethiopia, Kenya and her economic ally Uganda joined forces forming the East African coalition. The coalition saw great success in defeating the rebels, but more importantly it show the people that unity was strength. Following it's defeat in Dec 2007 the victors decided that Somalia should be divided based on tribe. This tribal method worked wonders as the crime rate dropped and each tribe was like it's own political party, allying and condemning with other tribes. All the powers agreed it was more civilized this way, they began to adopt this system in their own respective countries. Around this same time a new political idea began to gain favor in these countries, one of a unified African gov't. The tribal system caused tensions to rise in 2008 when an Ethiopian tribe overlapped into Kenyan territory. The Kenyan gov't didn't want to give up the land and ethiopia wanted it's people. This Feuding caused the many pro-cooperation candidates to be elected in Ethiopia and Kenya alike. Their main message was one of unity, they said that tensions were created when Colonial Africa was drawn up by Europeans. These people were ousted by their gov'ts and banned from holding office. They would form a guerrilla group to end their gov'ts. In October of 2010 the guerrillas received the public support of Amen Benita. Amen was the removed and became the leader of the guerillas. Under Amen the Kenyan and the Ethiopian guerrillas united and in 2012 they overthrow their respective gov't and held a referendum. The people chose to join the two countries together in a Federal Republic. They also approved a host of citizen rights such as the right to a rifle and the right to practice any religion. This new nation called itself the Republic of Africa, and Amen governed over it. Amen put the pressure on Uganda to hold similar referendums threatening invasion. In 2014 they obliged and after the fall referendum joined the Republic. In Dec 2015 South Sudan was facing defeat at the hands of Sudan, they pleaded for assistance. After three months of negotiating the Republic sent in troops and invaded south eastern Sudan forcing the Sudanese to withdraw from South Sudan. After almost a year of fighting the Republic signed a peace treaty with Sudan, Sudan would be returned all the land that was taken during the Sudanese Offensive, and in return The Republic would incorporate South Sudan. Now the year is 2017 and the Republic has two things on it's mind; unify more African nations and Modernize their economy and Military.

RP History or Example
https://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=291107

[Chewion]

Right, so I'll be running Tallahassee International News, and UN Sec-Gen as Co-OP.

I'll probably pick up a random country for the interim times but the focus is going to be on the more OP-y above stuff.

Ok.

[Tallahassee News Station]

I'll snag Turkey for the time being

[Chewion]

NS Nation Name:Mikia
RL Country Chosen: Ethiopia, Somalia, South Sudan, Uganda, and Kenya
Name of Leader: Amen Benita
Appearance of Leader (Description allowed, picture preferred)
Biography of Leader Amen Benita was born in 1957 to a "wealthy" Ethiopian family. He would join anti-communist rebels in 1989, and rise to prominence due to his tactical abilities. After 1991 and the fall of the communists in Ethiopia he was made a general by Meles Zenawi. He became the commander of the East African coalition in the year 2005. Amen was the architect of both the Somali and Sudanese Offensives in 2007 and 2016 respectively. He was ousted from his position and joined a guerilla group that completed a coup. This fame allowed him to win the election of 2016 to become president of The republic of Africa.
History of Nation (2000-2017) (You may simply keep it as-is):

Jul 2000 the Somali civil war began to spill over into Ethiopia and Kenya, while their pirates became emboldened. May 2001 after major defeats by somali rebels and pirates alike Ethiopia, Kenya and her economic ally Uganda joined forces forming the East African coalition. The coalition saw great success in defeating the rebels, but more importantly it show the people that unity was strength. Following it's defeat in Dec 2007 the victors decided that Somalia should be divided based on tribe. This tribal method worked wonders as the crime rate dropped and each tribe was like it's own political party, allying and condemning with other tribes. All the powers agreed it was more civilized this way, they began to adopt this system in their own respective countries. Around this same time a new political idea began to gain favor in these countries, one of a unified African gov't. The tribal system caused tensions to rise in 2008 when an Ethiopian tribe overlapped into Kenyan territory. The Kenyan gov't didn't want to give up the land and ethiopia wanted it's people. This Feuding caused the many pro-cooperation candidates to be elected in Ethiopia and Kenya alike. Their main message was one of unity, they said that tensions were created when Colonial Africa was drawn up by Europeans. These people were ousted by their gov'ts and banned from holding office. They would form a guerrilla group to end their gov'ts. In October of 2010 the guerrillas received the public support of Amen Benita. Amen was the removed and became the leader of the guerillas. Under Amen the Kenyan and the Ethiopian guerrillas united and in 2012 they overthrow their respective gov't and held a referendum. The people chose to join the two countries together in a Federal Republic. They also approved a host of citizen rights such as the right to a rifle and the right to practice any religion. This new nation called itself the Republic of Africa, and Amen governed over it. Amen put the pressure on Uganda to hold similar referendums threatening invasion. In 2014 they obliged and after the fall referendum joined the Republic. In Dec 2015 South Sudan was facing defeat at the hands of Sudan, they pleaded for assistance. After three months of negotiating the Republic sent in troops and invaded south eastern Sudan forcing the Sudanese to withdraw from South Sudan. After almost a year of fighting the Republic signed a peace treaty with Sudan, Sudan would be returned all the land that was taken during the Sudanese Offensive, and in return The Republic would incorporate South Sudan. Now the year is 2017 and the Republic has two things on it's mind; unify more African nations and Modernize their economy and Military.

RP History or Example
https://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=291107

Accepted

[Tallahassee News Station]

NS Nation Name: TNS
RL Country Chosen: Turkey
Name of Leader: Fatmah Ozdemir
Appearance of Leader: http://ekurd.net/mismas/articles/misc20 ... ey5070.jpg
Biography of Leader: Fatmah successfully managed to negotiate her way to Prime Minister in the 2002 elections, Turkey's second woman in that position, in the AK Parti. She would hold that position for more than a decade. Her leadership was intensely moderate. She attempted to make ties with the European Union and went through preliminary steps to joining, though it never happened. Economic development was a major part of her leadership, and Turkey grew steadily. In 2014 she left the PM seat to run for President, and was elected.
History of Nation (2000-2017): Turkey has continued on its modern path since 2002 mostly unabated. The government stayed firmly secular and the economy developed well on liberal lines over the years with Turkey strengthening its ties with the nations of the West
RP History or Example: Duh

I could make one for the Sec-Gen, but just assume its mostly the same.

TNS International is just a bigger TNS, like usual

[Chewion]

NS Nation Name: TNS
RL Country Chosen: Turkey
Name of Leader: Fatmah Ozdemir
Appearance of Leader: http://ekurd.net/mismas/articles/misc20 ... ey5070.jpg
Biography of Leader: Fatmah successfully managed to negotiate her way to Prime Minister in the 2002 elections, Turkey's second woman in that position, in the AK Parti. She would hold that position for more than a decade. Her leadership was intensely moderate. She attempted to make ties with the European Union and went through preliminary steps to joining, though it never happened. Economic development was a major part of her leadership, and Turkey grew steadily. In 2014 she left the PM seat to run for President, and was elected.
History of Nation (2000-2017): Turkey has continued on its modern path since 2002 mostly unabated. The government stayed firmly secular and the economy developed well on liberal lines over the years with Turkey strengthening its ties with the nations of the West
RP History or Example: Duh

I could make one for the Sec-Gen, but just assume its mostly the same.

TNS International is just a bigger TNS, like usual

Accepted.