Like the modern British culture. It's a mixture of anglo-saxon, celtic, danish, roman, french, etc.
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by The Blaatschapen » Fri Feb 10, 2017 9:33 am
by Edding » Fri Feb 10, 2017 10:17 am
Ban Pho wrote:What is your opinion on multiculturalism, RWDT?
by Conscentia » Fri Feb 10, 2017 11:37 am
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by Lady Scylla » Fri Feb 10, 2017 12:02 pm
Conscentia wrote:Lady Scylla wrote:I like interculturalism more, by letting different cultures merge and melt together to form a more robust culture.
That sounds more like melting pot monoculturalism. Interculturalism, as I understand, it is more about promoting interaction between different cultures in the same society while they remain distinct - as opposed to merely accepting that multiple cultures exist and enabling (self-)segregation.
by Venerable Bede » Fri Feb 10, 2017 12:28 pm
by Venerable Bede » Fri Feb 10, 2017 12:36 pm
Lady Scylla wrote:Great Kauthar wrote:The RWDT's first few incarnations were a lot more serious, but there's so many new people that have came out of nowhere and its spiraled into whatever the fuck it is now. I only recognize about a third if not less than a third of the people in the discord...
4Chan's containment was breached. Not saying everyone here is from there, but they, and their humour, spread everywhere afterwards.
by Conscentia » Fri Feb 10, 2017 12:37 pm
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by Gondolaulus » Fri Feb 10, 2017 1:39 pm
Ban Pho wrote:What is your opinion on multiculturalism, RWDT?
by Torsiedelle » Fri Feb 10, 2017 1:44 pm
by Luminesa » Fri Feb 10, 2017 1:46 pm
Torsiedelle wrote:I think multiculturalism in some cases isn't awful, but...as it is today? Not a fan.
How do I explain it...like, how in some placing in New York, you have Chinese neighborhoods, and Black ones, and Italian ones, and they're all different and unique, and yet at the same time they're all American. That's the kind of Multiculturalism I think of, where yeah, we're all American, but we can still embrace and support our different heritages, in our own areas, and even embrace them outside without being at each others' throats. It's the things that make people different that makes them cool.
Now the entire "We need to stop this because it offends X and cultures are social constructs, therefore it's outdated and we need to create le new peoples revolutionary culture" nonsense is what grinds my gears.
Be like old-timey stereotypical New York. Be diverse and cool about it. Don't be crazy micro-aggression obsessed cucks.
That makes sense? I hope at least a little. I'm just popping in to bullshit a little.
by Gondolaulus » Fri Feb 10, 2017 1:46 pm
Torsiedelle wrote:I think multiculturalism in some cases isn't awful, but...as it is today? Not a fan.
How do I explain it...like, how in some placing in New York, you have Chinese neighborhoods, and Black ones, and Italian ones, and they're all different and unique, and yet at the same time they're all American. That's the kind of Multiculturalism I think of, where yeah, we're all American, but we can still embrace and support our different heritages, in our own areas, and even embrace them outside without being at each others' throats. It's the things that make people different that makes them cool.
Now the entire "We need to stop this because it offends X and cultures are social constructs, therefore it's outdated and we need to create le new peoples revolutionary culture" nonsense is what grinds my gears.
Be like old-timey stereotypical New York. Be diverse and cool about it. Don't be crazy micro-aggression obsessed cucks.
That makes sense? I hope at least a little. I'm just popping in to bullshit a little.
by Torsiedelle » Fri Feb 10, 2017 1:51 pm
Luminesa wrote:While I would disagree as to whether or not old-time New York was always "cool" about their diversity (in the sense that there were plenty racist riots in 'old-timey' New York), I agree. We should be diverse and cool about it. That's what makes our country so beautiful!
by PaNTuXIa » Fri Feb 10, 2017 1:52 pm
Ban Pho wrote:What is your opinion on multiculturalism, RWDT?
by NeoLiberia » Fri Feb 10, 2017 2:04 pm
Gondolaulus wrote:Torsiedelle wrote:I think multiculturalism in some cases isn't awful, but...as it is today? Not a fan.
How do I explain it...like, how in some placing in New York, you have Chinese neighborhoods, and Black ones, and Italian ones, and they're all different and unique, and yet at the same time they're all American. That's the kind of Multiculturalism I think of, where yeah, we're all American, but we can still embrace and support our different heritages, in our own areas, and even embrace them outside without being at each others' throats. It's the things that make people different that makes them cool.
Now the entire "We need to stop this because it offends X and cultures are social constructs, therefore it's outdated and we need to create le new peoples revolutionary culture" nonsense is what grinds my gears.
Be like old-timey stereotypical New York. Be diverse and cool about it. Don't be crazy micro-aggression obsessed cucks.
That makes sense? I hope at least a little. I'm just popping in to bullshit a little.
That is not multiculturalism. That's assimilation into American culture.
Remembering your heritage =/= as being of said culture. A culture is a set of values and norms totally irrelevant of heritage. A person A can be of country B's culture and vice versa.
When two cultures share the same living space, then it's doomed to fail as the expectations of said two cultures collide.
by NeoLiberia » Fri Feb 10, 2017 2:05 pm
Torsiedelle wrote:Luminesa wrote:While I would disagree as to whether or not old-time New York was always "cool" about their diversity (in the sense that there were plenty racist riots in 'old-timey' New York), I agree. We should be diverse and cool about it. That's what makes our country so beautiful!
Well yeah, minus the riots and whatnot. When I think of Old Timey New York, I think of campy old America with baseball and good food, and New Work Accents.
Then again, I've never been to New York in my entire life, so yeah, lol.
by Gondolaulus » Fri Feb 10, 2017 2:07 pm
Neoliberia wrote:Gondolaulus wrote:That is not multiculturalism. That's assimilation into American culture.
Remembering your heritage =/= as being of said culture. A culture is a set of values and norms totally irrelevant of heritage. A person A can be of country B's culture and vice versa.
When two cultures share the same living space, then it's doomed to fail as the expectations of said two cultures collide.
You're talking about communitarian multiculturalism. Here in the West (and anywhere where multiculturalism exists as a success tbh) we have liberal multiculturalism, where backward beliefs needn't be tolerated (and often aren't in the most multicultural countries).
by The East Marches » Fri Feb 10, 2017 2:12 pm
Gondolaulus wrote:Neoliberia wrote:You're talking about communitarian multiculturalism. Here in the West (and anywhere where multiculturalism exists as a success tbh) we have liberal multiculturalism, where backward beliefs needn't be tolerated (and often aren't in the most multicultural countries).
Define backward believe. And in essence, that is not multiculturalism.
Once one culture outforces another, there is no multiculturalism. There is cultural domination.
by The East Marches » Fri Feb 10, 2017 2:13 pm
by NeoLiberia » Fri Feb 10, 2017 2:14 pm
Gondolaulus wrote:Neoliberia wrote:You're talking about communitarian multiculturalism. Here in the West (and anywhere where multiculturalism exists as a success tbh) we have liberal multiculturalism, where backward beliefs needn't be tolerated (and often aren't in the most multicultural countries).
Define backward believe. And in essence, that is not multiculturalism.
Once one culture outforces another, there is no multiculturalism. There is cultural domination.
by NeoLiberia » Fri Feb 10, 2017 2:19 pm
by The East Marches » Fri Feb 10, 2017 2:27 pm
by Gondolaulus » Fri Feb 10, 2017 2:30 pm
Neoliberia wrote:Gondolaulus wrote:Define backward believe. And in essence, that is not multiculturalism.
Once one culture outforces another, there is no multiculturalism. There is cultural domination.
https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/multiculturalism/#LibEga
Multiculturalism as it has been understood in the West, is liberal, not communitarian. It allows for people to keep at least the facade of their identity while liberalism continues to dominate over traditionalism.
Now I understand that you come from the Netherlands. Your Pillarisation is more like communitarian multiculturalism than liberal multiculturalism, so I can understand why you think it's all communitarian.
by NeoLiberia » Fri Feb 10, 2017 2:31 pm
by Mikelheim » Fri Feb 10, 2017 2:31 pm
Lady Scylla wrote:Great Kauthar wrote:The RWDT's first few incarnations were a lot more serious, but there's so many new people that have came out of nowhere and its spiraled into whatever the fuck it is now. I only recognize about a third if not less than a third of the people in the discord...
4Chan's containment was breached. Not saying everyone here is from there, but they, and their humour, spread everywhere afterwards.
by NeoLiberia » Fri Feb 10, 2017 2:34 pm
Gondolaulus wrote:Neoliberia wrote:https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/multiculturalism/#LibEga
Multiculturalism as it has been understood in the West, is liberal, not communitarian. It allows for people to keep at least the facade of their identity while liberalism continues to dominate over traditionalism.
Now I understand that you come from the Netherlands. Your Pillarisation is more like communitarian multiculturalism than liberal multiculturalism, so I can understand why you think it's all communitarian.
Liberal multiculturalism isn't multiculturalism.
It's one culture dominating the other. Something like that is assimilation. Nothing more nothing less. One culture getting destroyed to be integrated into another culture.
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