Trump MAGAThread III: Steak, Vodka, Casinos, and America

[Corrian]

Lovely...

[Lady Scylla]

Mainly because a lot of the vocal anti-Trumpers are total hypocrites. They preach anti-racism, yet a pro-Trump latino gets called a "race traitor", they preach peace yet I have seen enough footage of them beating people up bloody, some even barely of legal age, they preach equality and democracy, but hold up signs blaming "white women" for Trump winning (at the so called Women's March, aka Women Against Trump).

Let us not forget, speaking of the Women Against Trump march and their hypocrisy, it is enough said how one of their main figures and co-chair is an islamist and fundamentalist.

https://web.archive.org/web/20170126231 ... 1513401344

You see, that's the problem with a group so huge. There's gonna be a few bad apples in there who are gonna make the rest of them look bad.

Don't let one bad apple spoil the whole bunch, that's disingenuous.

And then you've got the Black Bloc, who have been growing in numbers, but aren't associated with the movement. Their sole goal is to cause havoc and anarchy. They get lumped up with the crowd they're in.

[Lady Scylla]

Mainly because a lot of the vocal anti-Trumpers are total hypocrites. They preach anti-racism, yet a pro-Trump latino gets called a "race traitor", they preach peace yet I have seen enough footage of them beating people up bloody, some even barely of legal age, they preach equality and democracy, but hold up signs blaming "white women" for Trump winning (at the so called Women's March, aka Women Against Trump).

Let us not forget, speaking of the Women Against Trump march and their hypocrisy, it is enough said how one of their main figures and co-chair is an islamist and fundamentalist.

https://web.archive.org/web/20170126231 ... 1513401344

Well, I'm anti-Trump, I participated in the Women's March. I didn't beat anyone to a pulp, I didn't call anyone a race traitor, and I didn't blame anyone specifically for Trump winning.

Now, how does your argument hold up?

I'm not even a Democrat, I don't even like the Democrats.

[Lady Scylla]

Looks like China is eyeing the top slot

[Washington Resistance Army]

You see, that's the problem with a group so huge. There's gonna be a few bad apples in there who are gonna make the rest of them look bad.

Don't let one bad apple spoil the whole bunch, that's disingenuous.

And then you've got the Black Bloc, who have been growing in numbers, but aren't associated with the movement. Their sole goal is to cause havoc and anarchy. They get lumped up with the crowd they're in.

They aren't even good at causing havoc. Breaking Starbucks windows and flipping over garbage cans just makes you look like a moron.

[Tyrassueb]

And then you've got the Black Bloc, who have been growing in numbers, but aren't associated with the movement. Their sole goal is to cause havoc and anarchy. They get lumped up with the crowd they're in.

They aren't even good at causing havoc. Breaking Starbucks windows and flipping over garbage cans just makes you look like a moron.

They did get one officer good in the face with a pole or something after getting maced. Not sure if they got arrested though, camera panned afterwards.

[Corrian]

Looks like China is eyeing the top slot

Nobody should be shocked...

Totally not counter productive or anything.

[Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States]

Well, I'm anti-Trump, I participated in the Women's March. I didn't beat anyone to a pulp, I didn't call anyone a race traitor, and I didn't blame anyone specifically for Trump winning.

Now, how does your argument hold up?

I'm not even a Democrat, I don't even like the Democrats.

Yeah, it's hard to support a party that holds so many different and mutually exclusive ideals at once. The democrats are, at the same time, too left wing and too right wing for me. The democratic spectrum just holds more of my own values. But hey, I'm a dirty foreigner. All we say is 'barbarbar' until the end of days.

[Ifreann]

Russia sold a 19.5% stake in Rosneft to unknown buyers. Now what does this have to do with Trump, you might ask?

Well, the Trump dossier published by Buzzfeed mentions on page 30: "In terms of the substance of their discussion, SECHIN's associate said that the Rosneft President was so keen to lift personal and corporate western sanctions imposed on the company, that he offered PAGE/TRUMP's associates the brokerage of up to a 19 per cent (privatised) stake in Rosneft in return. PAGE had expressed interest and confirmed that were TRUMP elected US president, then sanctions on Russia would be lifted."

Now I'm not saying that Putin bribed Trump & Co. in order to get him to lift the sanctions on Russia, I'm just pointing out that that's what alot of people are saying, some very smart, very reputable people, the best people! And if so many people feel it to be true, well then it has to be. (That was a joke, in case you couldn't tell.)

Trump makes the greatest deals. The best.

[Internationalist Bastard]

I'm not liking some of these immigration reforms like

Sec. 5. Enforcement Priorities. In executing faithfully the immigration laws of the United States, the Secretary of Homeland Security (Secretary) shall prioritize for removal those aliens described by the Congress in sections 212(a)(2), (a)(3), and (a)(6)(C), 235, and 237(a)(2) and (4) of the INA (8 U.S.C. 1182(a)(2), (a)(3), and (a)(6)(C), 1225, and 1227(a)(2) and (4)), as well as removable aliens who:

(a) Have been convicted of any criminal offense;

(b) Have been charged with any criminal offense, where such charge has not been resolved;

(c) Have committed acts that constitute a chargeable criminal offense;

(d) Have engaged in fraud or willful misrepresentation in connection with any official matter or application before a governmental agency;

(e) Have abused any program related to receipt of public benefits;

(f) Are subject to a final order of removal, but who have not complied with their legal obligation to depart the United States; or

(g) In the judgment of an immigration officer, otherwise pose a risk to public safety or national security

Like, I'm notmgood at Legalese, but doesn't this basically mean that all someone has to do is claim an alien commited a crime and they can get deported?

[Philjia]

Well, I'm anti-Trump, I participated in the Women's March. I didn't beat anyone to a pulp, I didn't call anyone a race traitor, and I didn't blame anyone specifically for Trump winning.

Now, how does your argument hold up?

I'm not even a Democrat, I don't even like the Democrats.

One of the problems with both parties is that they're too big. The attraction of boiling down the two common political positions into two big tent parties is obvious; you can have more money, and more votes, if there's less competition. However, they're reaching the point where the internal politics of each party is getting too broad to sustain, and candidates are going to be banking on the "I'm not the other one" vote more and more as the years wear on. Ideally, I think each party should be split into three smaller parties.

[Ifreann]

I'm not liking some of these immigration reforms like

Sec. 5. Enforcement Priorities. In executing faithfully the immigration laws of the United States, the Secretary of Homeland Security (Secretary) shall prioritize for removal those aliens described by the Congress in sections 212(a)(2), (a)(3), and (a)(6)(C), 235, and 237(a)(2) and (4) of the INA (8 U.S.C. 1182(a)(2), (a)(3), and (a)(6)(C), 1225, and 1227(a)(2) and (4)), as well as removable aliens who:

(a) Have been convicted of any criminal offense;

(b) Have been charged with any criminal offense, where such charge has not been resolved;

(c) Have committed acts that constitute a chargeable criminal offense;

(d) Have engaged in fraud or willful misrepresentation in connection with any official matter or application before a governmental agency;

(e) Have abused any program related to receipt of public benefits;

(f) Are subject to a final order of removal, but who have not complied with their legal obligation to depart the United States; or

(g) In the judgment of an immigration officer, otherwise pose a risk to public safety or national security

Like, I'm notmgood at Legalese, but doesn't this basically mean that all someone has to do is claim an alien commited a crime and they can get deported?

Watch as brown looking American citizens are deported to Mexico for double parking, and then just walk back across the border.

[The East Marches]

Looks like China is eyeing the top slot

Unlike us, the Chinese won't subscribe to bs deals in the name of some vague sense of altruistic duty. They can waste the blood and treasure playing police power. Alas I don't think this will happen. Trump will be interventionist.

[Genivaria]

K So THIS fucking happened.

The Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists, chaired by theoretical physicist and actual atheist Lawrence M. Krauss, announced today that President Donald Trump’s actions have moved the group’s “Doomsday Clock” to two and a half minutes ‘til midnight.

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyat ... -midnight/

[Bakery Hill]

K So THIS fucking happened.

The Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists, chaired by theoretical physicist and actual atheist Lawrence M. Krauss, announced today that President Donald Trump’s actions have moved the group’s “Doomsday Clock” to two and a half minutes ‘til midnight.

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyat ... -midnight/

That means really very little.

[Genivaria]

K So THIS fucking happened.

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyat ... -midnight/

That means really very little.

Because...?

[Bakery Hill]

That means really very little.

Because...?

Mate, you know it's not a real clock right?

[Genivaria]

Because...?

Mate, you know it's not a real clock right?

Why would I think it was a real clock?

[Bakery Hill]

Mate, you know it's not a real clock right?

Why would I think it was a real clock?

Coz you seem to be giving it some importance.

Rather than a bunch of theoretical physicists giving their opinion on foreign policy with a shiny prop in the background.

[Genivaria]

Why would I think it was a real clock?

Coz you seem to be giving it some importance.

Rather than a bunch of theoretical physicists giving their opinion on foreign policy with a shiny prop in the background.

'opinion' yeah okay sure.
It's not like these kind of people know what they're talking about or anything because all opinions are equal right?

[Hurdergaryp]

[The East Marches]

Coz you seem to be giving it some importance.

Rather than a bunch of theoretical physicists giving their opinion on foreign policy with a shiny prop in the background.

'opinion' yeah okay sure.
It's not like these kind of people know what they're talking about or anything because all opinions are equal right?

So you accept Dr. Ben Carson was the best candidate to be president? I am just going off what you were implying here.

[Hurdergaryp]

'opinion' yeah okay sure.
It's not like these kind of people know what they're talking about or anything because all opinions are equal right?

So you accept Dr. Ben Carson was the best candidate to be president? I am just going off what you were implying here.

That's the guy who honestly believed that the pyramids were granaries, right?

[Lady Scylla]

So you accept Dr. Ben Carson was the best candidate to be president? I am just going off what you were implying here.

That's the guy who honestly believed that the pyramids were granaries, right?

Yep

[Chestaan]

'opinion' yeah okay sure.
It's not like these kind of people know what they're talking about or anything because all opinions are equal right?

So you accept Dr. Ben Carson was the best candidate to be president? I am just going off what you were implying here.

The same guy who believes that the Egyptian pyramids were used to store grain? Yeah I don't think we can see he really knows what he's talking about!