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Postby Seangoli » Thu Jan 26, 2017 10:36 am

Ashmoria wrote:
Jerzylvania wrote:
Trump can be deposed using the 25th Amendment. Impeachment is not absolutely necessary for his removal and this is a much faster.

http://www.salon.com/2017/01/25/dont-lo ... peachment/

The comments to this article are somewhat entertaining.

that would destroy the republican party

unless trump had a stroke or something.


It could possibly happen if they credibly believe that he actually plans to use, say, nuclear weapons. Or constantly threatens (and engages in) trade wars with some of our closest regional trade partners and allies. I have to assume that even they have a line that they won't cross, if not for moralistic reason then for pragmatic reasons. If he stands to cause too much damage, the political fallout from invoking the article may be seen as a necessity.

I wouldn't count it out - some Republicans are already tired of his shit, and we are less than a week into his term. I can only imagine what things will be like for them as time goes on. T

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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Thu Jan 26, 2017 10:36 am



Trump should be sent to prison for insecurely holding american secrets and email.

LOCK HIM UP!

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Postby Chestaan » Thu Jan 26, 2017 10:37 am

Great Confederacy Of Commonwealth States wrote:Is the Wall going to be Trump's Autobahn?


The autobahn was actually a good thing though.
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Postby Jerzylvania » Thu Jan 26, 2017 10:40 am

Farnhamia wrote:
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Trump can be deposed using the 25th Amendment. Impeachment is not absolutely necessary for his removal and this is a much faster.

http://www.salon.com/2017/01/25/dont-lo ... peachment/

The comments to this article are somewhat entertaining.

Ultimately you would need a 2/3 majority in both houses of Congress for that. I do not see that happening, even if there was support in the Cabinet. And anyway, Mike Pence scares me more than Trump.


No it doesn't. Section 4 of the 25 Amendment reads: Whenever the Vice President and a majority of either the principal officers of the executive departments or of such other body as Congress may by law provide, transmit to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives their written declaration that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, the Vice President shall immediately assume the powers and duties of the office as Acting President.
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Postby IceBuddha » Thu Jan 26, 2017 10:41 am

(Reuters) Trump may reinstate secret CIA 'black site' prisons: U.S. officials

Granted, these reports are unconfirmed (and have been denied by the Trump admin), but hopefully Mike Pompeo wasn't lying to Congress when he said that he would not authorize torture if ordered to by President Trump.
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Postby Seangoli » Thu Jan 26, 2017 10:42 am

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Farnhamia wrote:I don't blame him, Trump scares me, too.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/26/worl ... -wall.html

I don't see any upside to nieto playing nice with trump.


It's rather hilarious, to be frank.

Trump, with all the might and muster of the United States behind him, tries to strong arm Mexico of all nation. Mexico immediately rebuffs him, and says "nah, that's coo".

I'm willing to bet he thought this was going to go very differently, and Mexico was going to just lay down and take it. I honestly wish I could see his face when Mexico called him on his shit.

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Postby Rio Cana » Thu Jan 26, 2017 10:43 am

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Luziyca wrote:Well, Trump did say that "he [the Mexican President] should not visit Washington, DC, if Mexico was 'unwilling to pay' for a wall on its shared border with the US."

If. Mexico has been saying hell no since the beginning of Trump's fever dream wall.


It seems the new US Pres. is overdoing it. That he really is picking on Mexico. It seems he likes to keep repeating that Mexico will pay for the wall because its good for his popularity. He seems to want Mexico to agree (kowtow) which would really give him a popularity boost. In the end, he knows and the Mexican Pres. knows that the US can place a special tax on Mexican imports to the US or money transfer from the US to Mexico. Mexico gets 60% of its gasoline from the US so he could tax gasoline going to Mexico. He knows Mexico is very dependent on the US for trade. 82% of its exports got to the US. So they cannot really do anything. Of course, they could reciprocate when it comes to import taxes or tourist taxes.

Now for the other side. This play by the US Pres. is only helping to drag down the Mexican Pres. and his political party the PRI. Lapdogs , many in Mexico consider the Mexican Pres., PRI and even the PAN political party which many times seems in bed with the PRI. has lapdog s of the US. Mexicans also consider them corupt parties and responsible for many of Mexico's problems. All this is working to the advantage of the MORENA political party. A Left wing party which has been growing when it comes to members, unlike the PRI. and PAN. They were ahead in the polls when it came to winning the Mexican pres. elections before this current fiasco. So this current fiasco will only increase the percentage they win by.
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Postby Jerzylvania » Thu Jan 26, 2017 10:43 am

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
Ashmoria wrote:that would destroy the republican party

unless trump had a stroke or something.


"that would destroy the republican party"

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Probably just in the short run. People said the same thing when GOP congressmen pledged to vote to impeach Nixon. As history shows, the GOP has survived all too well.
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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Thu Jan 26, 2017 10:45 am

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"that would destroy the republican party"

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Probably just in the short run. People said the same thing when GOP congressmen pledged to vote to impeach Nixon. As history shows, the GOP has survived all too well.



Aww.

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Postby Jerzylvania » Thu Jan 26, 2017 10:46 am

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
Jerzylvania wrote:
Probably just in the short run. People said the same thing when GOP congressmen pledged to vote to impeach Nixon. As history shows, the GOP has survived all too well.



Aww.

:(


I know. :hug:
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Postby Ashmoria » Thu Jan 26, 2017 10:53 am

Seangoli wrote:
Ashmoria wrote:I don't see any upside to nieto playing nice with trump.


It's rather hilarious, to be frank.

Trump, with all the might and muster of the United States behind him, tries to strong arm Mexico of all nation. Mexico immediately rebuffs him, and says "nah, that's coo".

I'm willing to bet he thought this was going to go very differently, and Mexico was going to just lay down and take it. I honestly wish I could see his face when Mexico called him on his shit.


me too. I wonder if he had a little tantrum there in the oval office and had to be calmed down by watching a half hour of "the price is right"
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If I get to hear that song more then it's not all bad :P
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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Thu Jan 26, 2017 10:56 am

"Okay, you know that stupid "Doomsday Clock" thing? Well the makers of it have caused it to start ticking forward because of Trump, and predictably people are acting like it’s an accurate prediction of the end of the world and panicking."- actual person who doesn't know what the fuck they are talking about at all on the 2 and a half minutes to midnight thing.

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Postby Jerzylvania » Thu Jan 26, 2017 11:01 am

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:"Okay, you know that stupid "Doomsday Clock" thing? Well the makers of it have caused it to start ticking forward because of Trump, and predictably people are acting like it’s an accurate prediction of the end of the world and panicking."- actual person who doesn't know what the fuck they are talking about at all on the 2 and a half minutes to midnight thing.


Some may believe it means at midnight Trump will engage in another ridiculous tweet storm. Of course, it's a bit more serious. :eyebrow:
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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Thu Jan 26, 2017 11:03 am

Jerzylvania wrote:
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:"Okay, you know that stupid "Doomsday Clock" thing? Well the makers of it have caused it to start ticking forward because of Trump, and predictably people are acting like it’s an accurate prediction of the end of the world and panicking."- actual person who doesn't know what the fuck they are talking about at all on the 2 and a half minutes to midnight thing.


Some may believe it means at midnight Trump will engage in another ridiculous tweet storm. Of course, it's a bit more serious. :eyebrow:


Yep. But people are going apeshit that other people are rightly freaking out experts who know shit are saying bad things.

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The man is a patriot for giving up a nice paying job rather than participate in this obscenity.
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Postby IceBuddha » Thu Jan 26, 2017 11:09 am

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:2 and 1/2 minutes to midnight

http://thebulletin.org/#

That was inevitable. Interesting that they moved it forward 30 seconds, which they've never done.

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Postby Cymrea » Thu Jan 26, 2017 11:10 am

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The man is a patriot for giving up a nice paying job rather than participate in this obscenity.

To be fair, the article says, "It's not immediately clear whether Morgan resigned or was asked to leave."
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Postby Rio Cana » Thu Jan 26, 2017 11:16 am

Latest news has Andrés Manuel López Obrador of the left wing MORENA political party saying that the US pres. is spoiled and insulting when he signed that wall order. In a speech he said that the Mexican Pres. should go to the UN where he should place a legal demand against Trump for discrimination and violation of human rights. He also said that the Mexican Pres. should go to the US to see Trump but to hand him the UN lawsuit document.

Like I already posted, the US Pres. unknowingly is helping the Mexican left wing political Party "MORENA" (National Regeneration Movement Party) win the 2018 elections in Mexico.

There 2018 party new anthem. That guy with the grey hair is Andrés Manuel López Obrador there charismatic leader who is expected to become Pres. of Mexico in 2018.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uSgg_bcMiow

This on him - [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrés_Manuel_López_Obrador]
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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Thu Jan 26, 2017 11:17 am

Rio Cana wrote:Latest news has Andrés Manuel López Obrador of the left wing MORENA political party saying that the US pres. is spoiled and insulting when he signed that wall order. In a speech he said that the Mexican Pres. should go to the UN where he should place a legal demand against Trump for discrimination and violation of human rights. He also said that the Mexican Pres. should go to the US to see Trump but to hand him the UN lawsuit document.

Like I already posted, the US Pres. unknowingly is helping the Mexican left wing political Party "MORENA" (National Regeneration Party) win the 2018 elections in Mexico.

There 2018 party new anthem. That guy with the grey hair is Andrés Manuel López Obrador there charismatic leader who is expected to become Pres. of Mexico in 2018.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uSgg_bcMiow

This on him -https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andr%C3%A9s_Manuel_L%C3%B3pez_Obrador


So, Make Mexco Great Again? :P

Fixed your link.
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Postby Alvecia » Thu Jan 26, 2017 11:20 am

Rio Cana wrote:Latest news has Andrés Manuel López Obrador of the left wing MORENA political party saying that the US pres. is spoiled and insulting when he signed that wall order. In a speech he said that the Mexican Pres. should go to the UN where he should place a legal demand against Trump for discrimination and violation of human rights. He also said that the Mexican Pres. should go to the US to see Trump but to hand him the UN lawsuit document.

Like I already posted, the US Pres. unknowingly is helping the Mexican left wing political Party "MORENA" (National Regeneration Party) win the 2018 elections in Mexico.

There 2018 party new anthem. That guy with the grey hair is Andrés Manuel López Obrador there charismatic leader who is expected to become Pres. of Mexico in 2018.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uSgg_bcMiow

This on him - [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrés_Manuel_López_Obrador]

I hadn't considered the effect Trump might have on the Mexican political landscape.
Should be interesting with the election so close what the newest presidents approach will be, particulaly given those who advocate strong anti-Trump policies will probably see a popularity boost.

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Postby Jerzylvania » Thu Jan 26, 2017 11:20 am

IceBuddha wrote:
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:2 and 1/2 minutes to midnight

http://thebulletin.org/#

That was inevitable. Interesting that they moved it forward 30 seconds, which they've never done.


They need to leave room for more than one reaction to Trump's further exploits. Once the get down to only 30 seconds left maybe they'll go for 5 second intervals?
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