Swedish Woman Gang-Raped Live on Facebook, 3 Men Arrested

[Neutraligon]

Not in all cases, but if the son turned out to be rapist, who brought him up? Lizards?

I brought him up because he was an example of where rape was permitted or even encouraged in the Torah.

Some good old honesty here. Thank you.

That isn't all that uncommon in non-Orthodox Jews.Hmm to be more exact Reform Jews tend not to be able to read Hebrew at all. They read the Torah and know the prayers they do sing in Hebrew by listening, not reading. For Conservative Jews it tends to be all over the place. Reading the text for me is pretty easy since I was taught how to physically read from when I was a kid, but I was never actually taught to understand. Orthodox Jews are fluent in Hebrew.

Then we were - in our different perspectives - arguing for the same thing from the very beginning.

That Crockerland is wrong, because I was arguing that they have a double standard when it comes to how they treat say the Torah or bible from where they treat the Koran.

[Novus America]

Sure, but some are incompatible, unless one decides to lose its barbaric ideals.

These refugees are from the same place. It would be silly to say that the same refugees from the same general place have the same unintegrable culture when the evidence is there that you can integrate the cultures.

Not necessarily. Not all refugees come from Syria. And not everyone from Syria is the same. Some Syrians can an will integrate, others will not. There is not a single monolithic Syrian culture. Which is why better screening is needed, but it is off topic as we do not know it applies here.

[Neutraligon]

Sure, but some are incompatible, unless one decides to lose its barbaric ideals.

These refugees are from the same place. It would be silly to say that the same refugees from the same general place have the same unintegrable culture when the evidence is there that you can integrate the cultures.

I wonder how much of it is a difference in attitude. Many who immigrate with the purpose of becoming citizens want to change, or at least are willing to change. Those who come as refugees are simply trying to escape a bad situation, and might not want to change (not talking about all refugees).

[Trollgaard]

Three men have been arrested in Uppsala, Sweden over suspicions of gang rape. Local media report police were alerted after being tipped off that the crime was being streamed on Facebook.
The crime allegedly took place early Sunday morning, with the police reportedly receiving a tip-off around 9:00am.

Aftonbladet daily spoke to some of the members of the closed Facebook group in which the “aggravated rape” was reportedly broadcast live. Witnesses said the girl being gang-raped was close to unconscious at the time.

One of them, Lovisa, 22, says she came upon the page by accident while chatting online. What she saw shocked her, she said.

“Two guys pushing down a girl on the bed... I first thought it was a poorly-orchestrated joke. But it was not.”

According to Lovisa, there were 200 people watching the video at one point, before the police suddenly arrived on the scene and the video stopped, followed by sounds of commotion in the room. The police questioned the men before taking them to the station, she said.

“It’s screwed, totally sick,” another member of the closed group told Expressen. “How can you do such a thing to a girl? And how can you do it live...?”

It was not immediately clear how these members had received an invitation to the closed group.

The apartment is being examined by forensics specialists and the crime scene is closed off. Police spokesman Ivan Aslund told Aftonbladet the police will maintain “full confidentiality” at this time, declining to confirm anything further than the arrest over gang-rape suspicions.

https://www.rt.com/news/374710-sweden-rape-streamed-facebook/

It looks like this horrendous crime was committed by men of Middle-Eastern origins. This is not new and goes to add to the big list of the attrocities Middle-Eastern people have committed in Europe in the last 6-7 years. All of these are known to many, yet most of them actually do nothing about it (myself included). The question is if the Swedish court will punish them accordingly, or they will get away with it like most others. Have you forgotten of another previous incident in Sweden?
These men behave like animals and are a threat to the citizens of the Western world. Face it: Our cultures are not compatible.

And if the US, now under Trump, with its great territorial size proclaims that they are undesirables, what is to say about the average European state? Ultimately, the US had always been a land of migrants up until recent decades. Because it could afford them and needed them. The European states never actually were.

Anyway, what do you think about this incident? Furthermore, what should be done about and after this?

Of course it was refugees. Deport all of them and let no more in. They are wolves in sheeps clothing.

[New Grestin]

Of course it was refugees. Deport all of them and let no more in. They are wolves in sheeps clothing.

Obviously the solution is to send these people back to their war-torn nations to likely die at the hands of those they're fleeing or worse.

I'm sure that couldn't feasibly backfire in any capacity.

[Neutraligon]

https://www.rt.com/news/374710-sweden-rape-streamed-facebook/

It looks like this horrendous crime was committed by men of Middle-Eastern origins. This is not new and goes to add to the big list of the attrocities Middle-Eastern people have committed in Europe in the last 6-7 years. All of these are known to many, yet most of them actually do nothing about it (myself included). The question is if the Swedish court will punish them accordingly, or they will get away with it like most others. Have you forgotten of another previous incident in Sweden?
These men behave like animals and are a threat to the citizens of the Western world. Face it: Our cultures are not compatible.

And if the US, now under Trump, with its great territorial size proclaims that they are undesirables, what is to say about the average European state? Ultimately, the US had always been a land of migrants up until recent decades. Because it could afford them and needed them. The European states never actually were.

Anyway, what do you think about this incident? Furthermore, what should be done about and after this?

Of course it was refugees. Deport all of them and let no more in. They are wolves in sheeps clothing.

Funnily enough so far there is no actual evidence it was refugees.

[Frenline Delpha]

Sure, but some are incompatible, unless one decides to lose its barbaric ideals.

These refugees are from the same place. It would be silly to say that the same refugees from the same general place have the same unintegrable culture when the evidence is there that you can integrate the cultures.

All you are asserting is that people can integrate. Cultures are many people, people are individuals. I agree that individuals can integrate, but I don't think certain cultures are compatible.

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

These refugees are from the same place. It would be silly to say that the same refugees from the same general place have the same unintegrable culture when the evidence is there that you can integrate the cultures.

All you are asserting is that people can integrate. Cultures are many people, people are individuals. I agree that individuals can integrate, but I don't think certain cultures are compatible.

If that's so, then where does Culture come in?

Different people do different things.

[SP Rebellion]

These refugees are from the same place. It would be silly to say that the same refugees from the same general place have the same unintegrable culture when the evidence is there that you can integrate the cultures.

All you are asserting is that people can integrate. Cultures are many people, people are individuals. I agree that individuals can integrate, but I don't think certain cultures are compatible.

I fully agree. With atleast what I can see going on in Europe, middle eastern culture is not compatible with European culture. And little to none seem to even try to integrate.

[Crockerland]

All you are asserting is that people can integrate. Cultures are many people, people are individuals. I agree that individuals can integrate, but I don't think certain cultures are compatible.

I fully agree. With atleast what I can see going on in Europe, middle eastern culture is not compatible with European culture. And little to none seem to even try to integrate.

The religion of Islam is incompatible with the values of the civilized world, however I don't see how middle eastern culture is incompatible with that of the civilized world.

[Threlizdun]

These refugees are from the same place. It would be silly to say that the same refugees from the same general place have the same unintegrable culture when the evidence is there that you can integrate the cultures.

All you are asserting is that people can integrate. Cultures are many people, people are individuals. I agree that individuals can integrate, but I don't think certain cultures are compatible.

Cultural diffusion is as much a factor of life as individual assimilation. The cultures we see today are not isolated pockets of independent ideas, but interconnected networks of norms, practices, beliefs, and symbols produced from generation upon generation of migration, idea sharing, and the rise and fall in influence of different cultural forces. Swedish culture is not the same as it was only a decade ago. Syrian culture isn't the same that it was only a decade ago. Iraqi culture isn't the same that it was only a decade ago. There isn't even one exclusive culture for these various nations. For example, Syria has communities of Arabic Sunnis, Ismailis, Druzes, Alawis, Twelvers, Catholics, Orthodox, and Maronites, Alevi Turkmen, Yazids, Sunni, Shia, and Christian Kurds, Orthodox Armenians, Jews, Assyrians, Syriacs, Christian and Muslim Palestinians, and Circasians. All of them are Syrian, though they are all different cultures. None of them are exclusive however, and all of them influence each other and the ideas on what it means to be Syrian. Swedish culture works the same way. It influences and is influenced by other cultures. As immigrants arrive, they bring aspects of their native cultures and adopt aspects of Swedish culture. It's impossible for them not to influence each other unless they completely isolate themselves from one another, and that is not in any way realistic in the modern world.

[FelrikTheDeleted]

People suspected of a crime have been arrested, and given what evidence there seems to be, are likely to be convicted. What's the problem?

It's proof that all Muslims are evil rapists and need to be removed from Europa.

You are in love with these sarcastic questions in which do nothing but piss people off, aren't you?

[Minzerland II]

Liberals: Put them in prison and enroll them in courses to respect women!
Conservatives: Deport all Muslims from Europe.
Me: Just cut their fucking balls off.

Never took you for a supporter of castration.

[FelrikTheDeleted]

This is deliciously ironic coming from you.

Not really. When someone says the rapists shouldn't be subject to human rights abuses you immediately strawed by implying they want the rapists coddled without punishment.

I believe he may have been referring to the irony in you calling him out for making a strawman.

"Moozlems are violent, barbaric savages!"
"Let's show we're more civilized by cutting off violent, barbaric Moozlem balls!"

This being a prime example. It may be sarcasm, it still assumes that this is the argument commonly made.

[Major-Tom]

Liberals: Put them in prison and enroll them in courses to respect women!
Conservatives: Deport all Muslims from Europe.
Me: Just cut their fucking balls off.

Lol, generalizing a bit.

[Gravlen]

You're not missing out. His source fails to support his argument.

So you can read Swedish? Translate the page for us.

It's a search page for statistics. You can get information about the number of reported crimes in Sweden from 1975 and onwards.

Notably, it says nothing about convictions, nothing about the religious beliefs of any perpetrators, nothing about any aspects of the (accused) perpetrators whatsoever. In short, Major-Tom is bullshitting and tries to cover his ass by throwing in a non-english language source which has nothing to do with his claim, obviously hoping that nobody will be able to read it and call him out on it.

[FutureAmerica]

What has happened to Sweden?

[Vassenor]

All you are asserting is that people can integrate. Cultures are many people, people are individuals. I agree that individuals can integrate, but I don't think certain cultures are compatible.

I fully agree. With atleast what I can see going on in Europe, middle eastern culture is not compatible with European culture. And little to none seem to even try to integrate.

That sounds like a claim you can provide sources for.

I mean clearly a handful of people doing bad things is proof that none of them want to integrate.

[The Lone Alliance]

Sad... very said

Of course it was refugees. Deport all of them and let no more in. They are wolves in sheeps clothing.

Obviously the solution is to send these people back to their war-torn nations to likely die at the hands of those they're fleeing or worse.

I'm sure that couldn't feasibly backfire in any capacity.

They'll come back as Zombie Refugees?

[Risottia]

All you are asserting is that people can integrate. Cultures are many people, people are individuals. I agree that individuals can integrate, but I don't think certain cultures are compatible.

If that's so, then where does Culture come in?

Different people do different things.

Nononono, you see, the point is that every Italian is a moustachio mafioso and every American is a trigger-happy cowboy! Because the behaviour of every single individual is ENTIRELY and EXCLUSIVELY defined by the most negative stereotypes about his culture of origin!

[USS Monitor]

What has happened to Sweden?

Some people committed a crime and got arrested for it.

[USS Monitor]

If that's so, then where does Culture come in?

Different people do different things.

Nononono, you see, the point is that every Italian is a moustachio mafioso and every American is a trigger-happy cowboy! Because the behaviour of every single individual is ENTIRELY and EXCLUSIVELY defined by the most negative stereotypes about his culture of origin!

I hang people for witchcraft all the time and would totally offer to sell you a smallpox blanket if NS didn't have rules against commercialism.

[Risottia]

What has happened to Sweden?

Some people committed a crime and got arrested for it.

But you fail to see the problem! These are DARKIE FURRINER CRIMINALS STEALING CRIME OPPORTUNITIES FROM PROPER BLONDE WHITE-SKINNED CRIMINALS! What are our own criminals going to do if all their crime opportunities are stolen by immigrant criminals? We'll end up with local criminals going out of business! Which means the local police will go out of business! Which means, uhm, terrible things!

#BuySwedish #HireSwedish #CrimeSwedish

[FutureAmerica]

These types of crimes didn't exist in Sweden before.

[Risottia]

Nononono, you see, the point is that every Italian is a moustachio mafioso and every American is a trigger-happy cowboy! Because the behaviour of every single individual is ENTIRELY and EXCLUSIVELY defined by the most negative stereotypes about his culture of origin!

I hang people for witchcraft all the time and would totally offer to sell you a smallpox blanket if NS didn't have rules against commercialism.

I'd tell you that-a you gotta care for your lovely familia, kapish, if NS didn't have rules against intimidation.

And if I weren't intimidated enough by your turret.