Hydesland wrote:HMS Vanguard wrote:But that's a lame faux-repudiation. It's yet another No True Scotsman/better luck next time that has literally become a joke already. And which still makes him look like an idiot for not taking a close look at the people at the start, when he told everyone this time it's different.
Well nobody is expecting it will convince everyone, but it I think it will put some left leaning people who are still very wary of Venezuelan style planning at ease. Also, while he's certainly made vague claims about how Venezuela has shown the world an "alternative" to "neo-liberal dogmatism" etc.. I'm not sure if he's actually ever given detailed endorsement about the entire Venezuelan approach, which would make things more awkward than just the platitudes he's made so far that I'm aware of, unless you're aware of some writings/speeches of his I haven't seen?
I'm not sure if this is the sort of thing you're referring to by platitudes but it seems pretty positive to me: https://twitter.com/jeremycorbyn/status ... 92?lang=en
I mean there are videos of Oswald Moseley after the war being interviewed where he basically makes the point, "Well, apart from the whole Holocaust thing...". I'm not saying this is totally logically indefensible on paper but it is certainly politically indefensible.
The wider problem with Corbyn is that he is the "this time it's different" socialist candidate. To be a viable leader, he has to persuade people that "this time it will be different". Or at least could be. You are proposing that he drop that approach. While I agree it's a bad approach for Labour, it's the only one Corbyn personally can take. His colours are nailed to the mast. If he wants to accept he's wrong on that point, the honourable and pragmatic course is for him to resign.