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by Big Brain City » Sat Jan 14, 2017 9:00 pm
The Big Brain wrote:Freedom? People are fools and unworthy of much freedom. Even I am a fool. Many people have recognized that and want me to suffer for it.
Unfortunately for them, I can glass their planets.
by Chestaan » Sat Jan 14, 2017 9:00 pm
by Novus America » Sat Jan 14, 2017 9:00 pm
by Aryan Nation » Sat Jan 14, 2017 9:02 pm
by Balkenreich » Sat Jan 14, 2017 9:04 pm
Chestaan wrote:Liriena wrote:It could be argued that going out to the streets and using force sounds like far more meaningful action than keyboard activism.
Thank you. I know most people here, including opponents of Trump, think that violence is deplorable. And I agree, it is deplorable but sometimes it's the only recourse. And I don't mean going out and attacking people randomly either, I mean doing what needs to be done to oppose this regime. In any case, I am sure the police will use violence long before the protestors resort to it.
by Big Brain City » Sat Jan 14, 2017 9:04 pm
Aryan Nation wrote:Big Brain City wrote:Well then. Apologies for wildly inferring.
What is your plan of action for 1965 then?
I'd open up free rides to Africa. Any Africans who want to volunteer will be made to go. Camps will be set up in Liberia, where they will be housed, fed and ultimately resettled.
The Big Brain wrote:Freedom? People are fools and unworthy of much freedom. Even I am a fool. Many people have recognized that and want me to suffer for it.
Unfortunately for them, I can glass their planets.
by Chestaan » Sat Jan 14, 2017 9:05 pm
Balkenreich wrote:Chestaan wrote:
Thank you. I know most people here, including opponents of Trump, think that violence is deplorable. And I agree, it is deplorable but sometimes it's the only recourse. And I don't mean going out and attacking people randomly either, I mean doing what needs to be done to oppose this regime. In any case, I am sure the police will use violence long before the protestors resort to it.
"T-hey caused me to plant this bomb on the subway....T-THEY MADE ME DO THIS!"
Some 3 years from now.
by Vettrera » Sat Jan 14, 2017 9:06 pm
Aryan Nation wrote:Big Brain City wrote:Well then. Apologies for wildly inferring.
What is your plan of action for 1965 then?
I'd open up free rides to Africa. Any Africans who want to volunteer will be made to go. Camps will be set up in Liberia, where they will be housed, fed and ultimately resettled.
by The Holy Empire of the Spaghetti Monster » Sat Jan 14, 2017 9:07 pm
Tsaraine wrote:Nazis aren't known for their smarts. You don't adhere to an ideology that got flattened under a T-34 in 1945 if you're full of sparks and opportunities in life.
Caelestiam wrote:...wait,
Are we seriously in a dick measuring contest over who has the right to declare law by virtue of the most innocent dead?
Sounds horrible and insensitive.
Proceed.
by Chestaan » Sat Jan 14, 2017 9:07 pm
by Liriena » Sat Jan 14, 2017 9:08 pm
The Flutterlands wrote:Chestaan wrote:
Well nothing is going to be achieved by asking nicely... This is a president who intends deport millions and if he can kick out refugees and potentially other Muslims as well. His presidency could well be a matter of life and death for thousands if not millions of people. If that's not worth fighting for then I don't know what is.
Obama deported millions too. So it'll just be business as usual in that regard...
Really though, people are literally acting like we elected Hitler, Sauron or even Darth Sidious...
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by Hittanryan » Sat Jan 14, 2017 9:08 pm
Aryan Nation wrote:Big Brain City wrote:Well then. Apologies for wildly inferring.
What is your plan of action for 1965 then?
I'd open up free rides to Africa. Any Africans who want to volunteer will be made to go. Camps will be set up in Liberia, where they will be housed, fed and ultimately resettled.
by The Flutterlands » Sat Jan 14, 2017 9:09 pm
by Chestaan » Sat Jan 14, 2017 9:12 pm
The Flutterlands wrote:Again, though, people are taking this out of proportion, but it's only because they're only now waking up to all the shit that the government has been doing for the past two decades. All the scary power Trumps gonna have can be thanked to Bush and Obama, with the latter doing very little to weaken Trumps power. This have been going on for years. So if you're gonna protest, protest to congress, both DNC and RNC, as a whole, not just Trump.
by Balkenreich » Sat Jan 14, 2017 9:14 pm
Chestaan wrote:The Flutterlands wrote:Again, though, people are taking this out of proportion, but it's only because they're only now waking up to all the shit that the government has been doing for the past two decades. All the scary power Trumps gonna have can be thanked to Bush and Obama, with the latter doing very little to weaken Trumps power. This have been going on for years. So if you're gonna protest, protest to congress, both DNC and RNC, as a whole, not just Trump.
I agree, Trump is simply a symptom of a much larger illness. Neoliberalism in America is in crisis and Trump is what you get when such a system is rupturing. Democrats need to be held accountable for what they have done as well. Anger has been building ever since the financial crash and it is just coming to a head now.
by Liriena » Sat Jan 14, 2017 9:15 pm
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by Seraven » Sat Jan 14, 2017 9:15 pm
Aryan Nation wrote:Big Brain City wrote:Well then. Apologies for wildly inferring.
What is your plan of action for 1965 then?
I'd open up free rides to Africa. Any Africans who want to volunteer will be made to go. Camps will be set up in Liberia, where they will be housed, fed and ultimately resettled.
The Alma Mater wrote:Seraven wrote:I know right! Whites enslaved the natives, they killed them, they converted them forcibly, they acted like a better human beings than the Muslims.
An excellent example of why allowing unrestricted immigration of people with a very different culture might not be the best idea ever :P
by Novus America » Sat Jan 14, 2017 9:15 pm
Balkenreich wrote:Chestaan wrote:
I agree, Trump is simply a symptom of a much larger illness. Neoliberalism in America is in crisis and Trump is what you get when such a system is rupturing. Democrats need to be held accountable for what they have done as well. Anger has been building ever since the financial crash and it is just coming to a head now.
And the American proletariat will rise up and do jack shit.
by Big Brain City » Sat Jan 14, 2017 9:15 pm
The Flutterlands wrote:Again, though, people are taking this out of proportion, but it's only because they're only now waking up to all the shit that the government has been doing for the past two decades. All the scary power Trumps gonna have can be thanked to Bush and Obama, with the latter doing very little to weaken the power he's handing over. This have been going on for years. So if you're gonna protest, protest to congress, both DNC and RNC, as a whole, not just Trump.
Balkenreich wrote:Chestaan wrote:
I agree, Trump is simply a symptom of a much larger illness. Neoliberalism in America is in crisis and Trump is what you get when such a system is rupturing. Democrats need to be held accountable for what they have done as well. Anger has been building ever since the financial crash and it is just coming to a head now.
And the American proletariat will rise up and do jack shit.
The Big Brain wrote:Freedom? People are fools and unworthy of much freedom. Even I am a fool. Many people have recognized that and want me to suffer for it.
Unfortunately for them, I can glass their planets.
by Chestaan » Sat Jan 14, 2017 9:16 pm
Balkenreich wrote:Chestaan wrote:
I agree, Trump is simply a symptom of a much larger illness. Neoliberalism in America is in crisis and Trump is what you get when such a system is rupturing. Democrats need to be held accountable for what they have done as well. Anger has been building ever since the financial crash and it is just coming to a head now.
And the American proletariat will rise up and do jack shit.
by Balkenreich » Sat Jan 14, 2017 9:16 pm
Liriena wrote:Balkenreich wrote:
Nice, give the riot cops an excuse.
Meanwhile as THAT is happening, youll be on the computer at home in argentina.
Doing. Nothing.
If you paid attention to my wording you might have noticed that I didn't actually support using force. Merely stated that someone other than me could argue that direct physical action would be more meaningful than virtual rhetoric. I for one remain a pacifist.
And yes, I won't be participating in any riots in American territory anywhere in the near future. I don't even participate in riots in my own country, mostly because I hate violence, but also because they usually involve people I don't want to associate myself with. The only public demonstrations I participated in was during the pride march in 2015. I didn't participate in the anti-Kirchnerist demonstrations that started in 2012, in part because they usually happened on thursdays, and on thursdays I'm out having a barbecue with friends, and in part because a lot of the people who participated in them were idiots with terrible ideas.
Also... what productive things do you do exactly? On a political level?
by Novus America » Sat Jan 14, 2017 9:17 pm
by Chestaan » Sat Jan 14, 2017 9:18 pm
Balkenreich wrote:Liriena wrote:If you paid attention to my wording you might have noticed that I didn't actually support using force. Merely stated that someone other than me could argue that direct physical action would be more meaningful than virtual rhetoric. I for one remain a pacifist.
And yes, I won't be participating in any riots in American territory anywhere in the near future. I don't even participate in riots in my own country, mostly because I hate violence, but also because they usually involve people I don't want to associate myself with. The only public demonstrations I participated in was during the pride march in 2015. I didn't participate in the anti-Kirchnerist demonstrations that started in 2012, in part because they usually happened on thursdays, and on thursdays I'm out having a barbecue with friends, and in part because a lot of the people who participated in them were idiots with terrible ideas.
Also... what productive things do you do exactly? On a political level?
Apart from voting for clinton?
Jack shit.
by Balkenreich » Sat Jan 14, 2017 9:19 pm
by Chestaan » Sat Jan 14, 2017 9:19 pm
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