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by Theodosiya » Sat Jan 14, 2017 5:54 am
by Schwere Panzer Abteilung 502 » Sat Jan 14, 2017 5:54 am
by Austrenia » Sat Jan 14, 2017 5:55 am
Allanea wrote:Basically once automobiles are generally available and used in industry, horses fail and suck compared to them in every single possible way.
by The Soodean Imperium » Sat Jan 14, 2017 5:58 am
by Allanea » Sat Jan 14, 2017 6:01 am
Schwere Panzer Abteilung 502 wrote:What were the reasons for the US Special Forces to go into Iraq on horseback prior to the invasion in '03? If I had to guess I'd say they wanted to leave a low footprint(or hoofprint) and horses are a good deal stealthier than desert patrol vehicles.
by Schwere Panzer Abteilung 502 » Sat Jan 14, 2017 6:04 am
Allanea wrote:Schwere Panzer Abteilung 502 wrote:What were the reasons for the US Special Forces to go into Iraq on horseback prior to the invasion in '03? If I had to guess I'd say they wanted to leave a low footprint(or hoofprint) and horses are a good deal stealthier than desert patrol vehicles.
Unless you know something I don't, the most high-profile use of special forces cavalry in recent years is not Iraq, but Afghanistan, where parts of the country are not accessible to motor vehicles. here's the most recent article I could find.
by Theodosiya » Sat Jan 14, 2017 6:10 am
by Imperializt Russia » Sat Jan 14, 2017 6:20 am
Schwere Panzer Abteilung 502 wrote:What were the reasons for the US Special Forces to go into Iraq on horseback prior to the invasion in '03? If I had to guess I'd say they wanted to leave a low footprint(or hoofprint) and horses are a good deal stealthier than desert patrol vehicles.
Edit: @theodosia: why are you so dead-set on having three different gun options for your tank? Just pick one. It's easier for everyone involved, trust me.
Also,Lamadia wrote:dangerous socialist attitude
Imperializt Russia wrote:I'm English, you tit.
by Allanea » Sat Jan 14, 2017 6:26 am
Schwere Panzer Abteilung 502 wrote:Allanea wrote:
Unless you know something I don't, the most high-profile use of special forces cavalry in recent years is not Iraq, but Afghanistan, where parts of the country are not accessible to motor vehicles. here's the most recent article I could find.
Ah, yes, you're right, I was misremembering. So the only reason is that no wheeled vehicles could have gotten through that terrain?
by HMS Vanguard » Sat Jan 14, 2017 6:38 am
Dostanuot Loj wrote:HMS Vanguard wrote:If I answer this question without rereading every previous post in detail, I can tell I am going to get lawyered on any tiny inconsistency while the substantive points are left to fall by the wayside. So my substantive answer is, "re-read my posts more carefully". I give the additional non-binding answer, that tanks are now sufficiently unimportant and easy to produce, that they will be produced only by countries with a large enough demand to make this a viable economic proposition, and that many countries will see insufficient use for tanks to justify producing or perhaps even importing them. I certainly haven't claimed Germany (or any major country) can't produce tanks - that's close to the opposite of my position.
I don't lawyer over minor details when your main arguments tell well enough what you are saying.
You have literally just called a cop-out to get out of a discussion you jumped into unprepared.
All the big NATO countries have the option to build in-house but most will take a third option: not replace their tanks.
If a new tank design were radically different to the old ones for some reason, it isn't likely going to come from Germany, which operates about the same number of tanks as the UK (232 vs 227), both being too small to justify the costs. Either it would be bought in from the US, or we spin the big wheel with another pan-Euro megaproject. My guess is that the British MoD will ultimately decide to retire tanks without replacement. The Germans will probably buy American, assuming they haven't remilitarised by that time. But I rather suspect both countries are more likely to fight insurgencies on their own territory than conventional land wars with Russia in the next 50 years.
I'm sorry, I forgot to add another paragraph asking why you think any new tank will be radically different from the past?
by Opplandia » Sat Jan 14, 2017 6:43 am
Theodosiya wrote:So, any thermals and stuff recommended? Also, need APS, both soft and hard kill.
by Austrasien » Sat Jan 14, 2017 11:28 am
Schwere Panzer Abteilung 502 wrote:Ah, yes, you're right, I was misremembering. So the only reason is that no wheeled vehicles could have gotten through that terrain?
by Fordorsia » Sat Jan 14, 2017 11:42 am
San-Silvacian wrote:Forgot to take off my Rhodie shorts when I went to sleep.
Woke up in bitches and enemy combatants.
Crookfur wrote:Speak for yourself, Crookfur infantry enjoy the sheer uber high speed low drag operator nature of their tactical woad
Spreewerke wrote:One of our employees ate a raw kidney and a raw liver and the only powers he gained was the ability to summon a massive hospital bill.
Premislyd wrote:This is probably the best thing somebody has ever spammed.
Puzikas wrote:That joke was so dark it has to smile to be seen at night.
by Gallia- » Sat Jan 14, 2017 2:01 pm
by Fordorsia » Sat Jan 14, 2017 3:52 pm
San-Silvacian wrote:Forgot to take off my Rhodie shorts when I went to sleep.
Woke up in bitches and enemy combatants.
Crookfur wrote:Speak for yourself, Crookfur infantry enjoy the sheer uber high speed low drag operator nature of their tactical woad
Spreewerke wrote:One of our employees ate a raw kidney and a raw liver and the only powers he gained was the ability to summon a massive hospital bill.
Premislyd wrote:This is probably the best thing somebody has ever spammed.
Puzikas wrote:That joke was so dark it has to smile to be seen at night.
by Opplandia » Sat Jan 14, 2017 4:14 pm
Fordorsia wrote:Really happy with how this is turning out. The gunner controls the turret remotely and the commander has his own spinny camera on the turret and I think that's all I'm going to have for tacticool electronics because mainly I have no interest in them, but is there anything else I could add to it?
by Fordorsia » Sat Jan 14, 2017 4:22 pm
Opplandia wrote:Fordorsia wrote:Really happy with how this is turning out. The gunner controls the turret remotely and the commander has his own spinny camera on the turret and I think that's all I'm going to have for tacticool electronics because mainly I have no interest in them, but is there anything else I could add to it?
what about a Mortar placed in one of those rear hatches? good for 'crowd dispersal' or other stuff like that.
San-Silvacian wrote:Forgot to take off my Rhodie shorts when I went to sleep.
Woke up in bitches and enemy combatants.
Crookfur wrote:Speak for yourself, Crookfur infantry enjoy the sheer uber high speed low drag operator nature of their tactical woad
Spreewerke wrote:One of our employees ate a raw kidney and a raw liver and the only powers he gained was the ability to summon a massive hospital bill.
Premislyd wrote:This is probably the best thing somebody has ever spammed.
Puzikas wrote:That joke was so dark it has to smile to be seen at night.
by Gallia- » Sat Jan 14, 2017 4:24 pm
by Fordorsia » Sat Jan 14, 2017 4:26 pm
San-Silvacian wrote:Forgot to take off my Rhodie shorts when I went to sleep.
Woke up in bitches and enemy combatants.
Crookfur wrote:Speak for yourself, Crookfur infantry enjoy the sheer uber high speed low drag operator nature of their tactical woad
Spreewerke wrote:One of our employees ate a raw kidney and a raw liver and the only powers he gained was the ability to summon a massive hospital bill.
Premislyd wrote:This is probably the best thing somebody has ever spammed.
Puzikas wrote:That joke was so dark it has to smile to be seen at night.
by Gallia- » Sat Jan 14, 2017 5:10 pm
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